MBTI - Improved Type Indicator?

[cheese]

Well, ESFJ has the same main four functions as INTP. And we get excellent scores on "Si with Ne" and "Ne with Si," so the test can't really know which one we prefer more. So the test probably assumes we're the more common type, ESFJ.

That's a glitch in their brains then, because for a lot of us Ti is clearly higher than Fe which is a reversal of preference order for ESFJ (Fe is dominant).

 

[Red Mage]

Cheese, look at the Prof's post again. It has very high scores for "Ti with Fe" and "Fe with Ti." Again, the way they formulate it isn't really getting which one of the two is actually higher. So now we have high "Ne with Si" and the reverse and high "Ti with Fe" and the reverse. The only wonder is why it didn't suggeset ISFJ instead, since in any case the information-gathering function Ne or Si is higher than the deciding function Ti or Fe.

 

[Anthile]

Ni-Ne-Ti-Fe-Te-Fi-Se-Si

Your Possible Type Code
According to the traditional sorting method of finding the most-used functional pairs (such as Fi-Ne), your type might be:
Possible result: INFJ


We are also trying a new sorting method to try to indicate best-fit type. This method is experimental and may not match your type.
Possible result: INTP
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Summary Analysis of Profile
By focusing on the strongest configuration of cognitive dynamics, your pattern of responses most closely matches individuals of this type: ESTJ
The corresponding best-fit cognitive pattern:

If these results don't fit well then consider these types: ISTJ, or ENFP

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Summary Analysis of Profile
By focusing on the strongest configuration of cognitive processes, your pattern of responses most closely matches individuals of this type: INFJ

Lead (Dominant) Process
Introverted Intuiting (Ni): Transforming with a meta-perspective. Withdrawing from the world and focusing your mind to receive an insight or realization. Checking if synergy results. Trying out a realization to transform things.

Support (Auxilliary) Process
Extraverted Feeling (Fe): Building trust through giving relationships. Empathically responding to others' needs and take on their needs and values as your own. Checking for respect and trust. Giving and receiving support to grow closer to people.

If these cognitive processes don't fit well then consider these types: ENFJ, or INTJ

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Umm, welcome to the Twilight Zone...

 

[cheese]

Cheese, look at the Prof's post again. It has very high scores for "Ti with Fe" and "Fe with Ti." Again, the way they formulate it isn't really getting which one of the two is actually higher. So now we have high "Ne with Si" and the reverse and high "Ti with Fe" and the reverse. The only wonder is why it didn't suggeset ISFJ instead, since in any case the information-gathering function Ne or Si is higher than the deciding function Ti or Fe.

That's what I mean. Doesn't that seem like a problem to you? All who posted their results got the same score both ways round. I am sure not all tested equally on Ti and Fe (I assume that's what they mean by changing the positions round). They must be processing the information differently (not using a raw score), and consistently coming up with the wrong answer suggests a problem; anyway assigning types based on superior percentage in population seems pretty faulty especially considering INTPs are much more likely to take such tests than ESFJs.

Who knows though; perhaps all of us truly have balanced Ti/Fe and Ne/Si etc.

I'm going to attempt the test again as an ESFJ. I will post my results.

 

[cheese]

I'm going to attempt the test again as an ESFJ. I will post my results.

Did it. I basically ignored all the Ti-pointed questions and placed them in the low or extremely low category. I also answered very high on the Fe, very low on N and high on S. I answered as closely to an ESFJ as possible.

Cognitive DynamicLevel of Development (Preference, Skill and Frequency of Use)Se with Ni ************************** (26.5)
average useSi with Ne **************************** (28.5)
average useNe with Si **************************** (28.5)
average useNi with Se ************************** (26.5)
average useTe with Fi ***************************** (29.5)
average useTi with Fe *********************************** (35.5)
good useFe with Ti *********************************** (35.5)
good useFi with Te ***************************** (29.5)
average use

Summary Analysis of Profile
By focusing on the strongest configuration of cognitive dynamics, your pattern of responses most closely matches individuals of this type: ESFJ
The corresponding best-fit cognitive pattern: If these results don't fit well then consider these types: ISFJ, or ENTP



Yeah, not the best system. They don't distinguish between opposing functions at all. I am curious how they process the data.

 

[Red Mage]

It's almost exactly the same results that most of us have gotten trying to be our INTP selves. At least this time it was "correct" in suggesting ESFJ.

Notice how each pair is always the exact same score as their reverse. I wonder if they screwed up the formula and when you choose more Fe answers it was supposed to give higher "Fe with Ti" than "Ti with Fe" instead of the exact same score. It couldn't have been set up like this on purpose, since there actually IS no way to tell ESFJ/ISFJ and INTP/ENTP apart.

In summary, the second test sucks.

 

[cheese]

- does victory dance -

 

[s0nystyle]

results for test 3, too tired to take the rest -.-"

Cognitive Process Level of Development (Preference, Skill and Frequency of Use)
extraverted Sensing (Se) ************************************ (36.7)
excellent use
introverted Sensing (Si) ******************** (20.2)
limited use
extraverted Intuiting (Ne) *************************************** (39.5)
excellent use
introverted Intuiting (Ni) *********************************** (35.2)
good use
extraverted Thinking (Te) ********************************* (33.6)
good use
introverted Thinking (Ti) ****************************************** (42.9)
excellent use
extraverted Feeling (Fe) *********** (11.8)
unused
introverted Feeling (Fi) ******************** (20.3)
limited use



Summary Analysis of Profile
By focusing on the strongest configuration of cognitive processes, your pattern of responses most closely matches individuals of this type: ENTP

Lead (Dominant) Process
Extraverted Intuiting (Ne): Exploring the emerging patterns. Wondering about patterns of interaction across various situations. Checking what hypotheses and meanings fit best. Trusting what emerges as you shift a situation’s dynamics.

Support (Auxilliary) Process
Introverted Thinking (Ti): Gaining leverage (influence) using a framework. Detaching to study a situation from different angles and fit it to a theory, framework or principle. Checking for accuracy. Using leverage to solve the problem.

If these cognitive processes don't fit well then consider these types: INTP, or ESTP

 

[Weliddryn]

Cognitive ProcessLevel of Development (Preference, Skill and Frequency of Use)extraverted Sensing (Se) ****************** (18.9)
limited useintroverted Sensing (Si) *********************** (23)
limited useextraverted Intuiting (Ne) ************************************* (37.8)
excellent useintroverted Intuiting (Ni) ***************************** (29)
average useextraverted Thinking (Te) *************************************** (39.2)
excellent useintroverted Thinking (Ti) *********************************************** (47)
excellent useextraverted Feeling (Fe) **************** (16.8)
limited useintroverted Feeling (Fi) *************************** (27.7)
average use

Summary Analysis of Profile
By focusing on the strongest configuration of cognitive processes, your pattern of responses most closely matches individuals of this type: INTP

Lead (Dominant) Process
Introverted Thinking (Ti): Gaining leverage (influence) using a framework. Detaching to study a situation from different angles and fit it to a theory, framework or principle. Checking for accuracy. Using leverage to solve the problem.

Support (Auxilliary) Process
Extraverted Intuiting (Ne): Exploring the emerging patterns. Wondering about patterns of interaction across various situations. Checking what hypotheses and meanings fit best. Trusting what emerges as you shift a situation’s dynamics.

​

If these cognitive processes don't fit well then consider these types: ENTP, or INTJ

Cognitive ProcessLevel of Development (Preference, Skill and Frequency of Use)
extraverted Sensing (Se) ********************* (21.1)
limited use
introverted Sensing (Si) ********** (10)
unused
extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ********************************************* (45.9)
excellent use
introverted Intuiting (Ni) ******************************************* (43.6)
excellent use
extraverted Thinking (Te) ***************************** (29.2)
average use
introverted Thinking (Ti) ************************************** (38.7)
excellent use
extraverted Feeling (Fe) *********************** (23.4)
limited use
introverted Feeling (Fi) **************************** (28.3)
average use

Summary Analysis of Profile
By focusing on the strongest configuration of cognitive processes, your pattern of responses most closely matches individuals of this type: INTP

Lead (Dominant) Process
Introverted Thinking (Ti): Gaining leverage (influence) using a framework. Detaching to study a situation from different angles and fit it to a theory, framework or principle. Checking for accuracy. Using leverage to solve the problem.

Support (Auxilliary) Process
Extraverted Intuiting (Ne): Exploring the emerging patterns. Wondering about patterns of interaction across various situations. Checking what hypotheses and meanings fit best. Trusting what emerges as you shift a situation’s dynamics.

​

If these cognitive processes don't fit well then consider these types: ENTP, or INFP

 

[brain enclosed in flesh]

Assessment 1: INTP

Assessment 2: ESFJ

Assessment 3: INTP

 

[Starfruit M.E.]

These quizzes do not account for a persona... for example, I am in INTP, but I act like an ENFP when I take on a leadership role or another similar situation.

Like said, the results did have some valuable information despite this.

My strongest was Ti (well above others), but then came Fi, then Fe, and then my Ne after that. Not sure what that means, other than that my F is well developed. And I've been saying that for some time now. But I guess that would explain why I had trouble figuring out if I was an INTP or an INFP at first.

 

[preilemus]

Cognitive Process Level of Development (Preference, Skill and Frequency of Use)
extraverted Sensing (Se)* **************************(24.2)
average use
introverted Sensing (Si)* **************************(24)
limited use
extraverted Intuiting (Ne)* ************************************(34.2)
good use
introverted Intuiting (Ni)* ****************************************(38.3)
excellent use
extraverted Thinking (Te)* ***************************(25)
average use
introverted Thinking (Ti)* ***************************************(37.3)
excellent use
extraverted Feeling (Fe)* *************************(23.3)
limited use
introverted Feeling (Fi)* ************************************(34.1)
good use


I don't even know why I do these things anymore.

 

[jhbowden]

1st: INTJ

Ranking: Te, Ti, Ne, Ni, Fe, Si, Fi, Se

2nd: ESTJ

Se with Ni ************************* (25.7)
Si with Ne ********************************** (34.7)
Ne with Si ********************************** (34.7)
Ni with Se ************************* (25.7)
Te with Fi ********************************* (33.7)
Ti with Fe ************************* (25.7)
Fe with Ti ************************* (25.7)
Fi with Te ********************************* (33.7)

3rd: INTJ

(Se) ***************************** (29.8)
(Si) *************************** (27.7)
(Ne) ************************ (24.6)
(Ni) ****************************** (30.7)
(Te) *************************************** (39.1)
(Ti) *************************************** (39.8)
(Fe) ***************** (17.3)
(Fi) ******************************* (31.6)

 

[ckm]

First: INFP

Second: ESTJ (lol) or ISTJ/ENFP

Third: INTP or ENTP/INFP

 

[Van]

ENTP, ESFJ, ISTP
Anyone ever done Feldenkrais classes? I think that's how I grew some Se.

 

[Polaris]

Every time I take the Briggs-Meyer I get INTJ......

I have taken test no. 1 twice, here's the result..............



Your Possible Type Code

According to the traditional sorting method of finding the most-used functional pairs (such as Fi-Ne), your type might be:

Possible result: INTP

We are also trying a new sorting method to try to indicate best-fit type. This method is experimental and may not match your type.

Possible result: INTP

Your Developmental Curve


Your self-assessment curve = -3.9

-- A curve less than 0 indicates you checked simpler phrases more often than sophisticated ones. This is expected, although a particularly low number (more than -10) might happen if the phrases were particularly unclear to you, or if you under-estimated your abilities.

-- A curve greater than 0 indicates you checked sophisticed phrases more often than simpler ones. This would be counter to a developmental model and might happen if many phrases are badly written or if you have over-estimated your capabilities.

Your Most-Used Processes

Based on your response, these are your top three cognitive processes in use:

Ti : Analyzing; categorizing; evaluating according to principles and whether something fits the framework or model; figuring out the principles on which something works; checking for inconsistencies; clarifying definitions to get more precision.

Ne : Interpreting situations and relationships; picking up meanings and interconnections; being drawn to change 'what is' for 'what could possibly be'; noticing what is not said and threads of meaning emerging across multiple contexts.

Ni : Foreseeing implications and likely effects without external data; realizing 'what will be'; conceptualizing new ways of seeing things; envisioning transformations; getting an image of profound meaning or far-reaching symbols.

Your Developmental Report

Your pattern of responses indicates a developmental level in each cognitive processes. Since this is experimental, this report may be in error.

Fe
You notice this process and enjoy when others use it but only occassionally find yourself engaging in it. You may marvel at others who do it very well. It doesn't appear useful to you personally and can annoy you if others use it too much.

Si,Se,Fi
You value this process as a helpful aid, even if you do not engage it that often. You trust it contributes to life, particularly when done by others who do the process well. You might recruit others to help you do this process for you.

Ni,Te
You actively use this process in your daily life as a useful tool or helpful aid. You could live without it but use definitely contributes to the what you do and who you are. You can work with others using this process, usually in a support role.

Ti,Ne
You create value, aid others and get things done everyday using this process. You function well here, know all the ins and outs, strengths and limits of this process. You have made this process your own, something personal and unique to you.

I knew there was a reason I like to hang out on this forum......

 

[bovinity]

First test:
Ti>Fi>Ne>Ni>Si>Fe>Te>Se (probable result INTP)
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[/SIZE][/FONT]2rd test:
ESTJ(???)

3rd test:
INTP

 

[LAM]

I took the first test a couple of days ago and now:1st time; Ne=15 bars, Ti+Te=14 bars, Si=9bars, Ni=4bars, I think all else was one.Today: Ti=18 bars, Te=17 bars, Ne=16 bars, Si= 8 bars, Ni=5 bars, Fi=3 bars. Se and Fe are second last and last respectively with both having 1 bar.

I got estj on the second one?? wtf. Its dodgy.


Third assesment: 50.2 Te-----48 Ti-----45.7Ne-----30.9 Si-----22.6Ni----21.6 Se-----15.3 Fi-----6.3 Fe
The third test was probably the most accurate I think, although it really does seem to depend on my mindset. Am I supposed to have such an atrocious Fe, isn't its shadow function supposed to be weaker??And what does weak Fi and Fe mean for me?

 

[Darby]

For Assessment 1:
19- Ne
18- Ti
16- Ni
15- Fi
11- Se
10- Si
10- Te
04- Fe

(INTP)
2:
Se with Ni (21.5)

Si with Ne (36.5)

Ne with Si (36.5)

Ni with Se (21.5)

Te with Fi (22.5)

Ti with Fe (39.5)

Fe with Ti (39.5)

Fi with Te (22.5)
(I think they said ESTJ)

3:
extraverted Sensing (Se) (9.9)

introverted Sensing (Si) (27.2)

extraverted Intuiting (Ne) (45.5)

introverted Intuiting (Ni) (33.1)

extraverted Thinking (Te) (39.4)

introverted Thinking (Ti) (43.4)

extraverted Feeling (Fe) (12.9)

introverted Feeling (Fi) (29)

(INTP)

and when I took the test in 6th grade I also got INTP

 

[LAM]

Wow. My Fe is half the size of even the lowest score of anyone else here. At least for test 3. 6.3 Fe.... And nobody seems to have my scores of like 46-50 for Te, Ne, Ti. D:

 

[Darby]

remember this is a self judging of how often you use certain traits, it just means you actually( or think you) use Te, Ne, and Ti substantially more than the others, whereas other than my Fe and Se functions I try to use them all as equally as I can. I see them as ratios between one another as somewhat of a percentage of how you use them.

but ultimately it's is a self assessment, which means if I were externally judged, I may come out much more like you, and you are just a better self evaluator

 

[Latro]

I don't tend to like the results of these tests (the function ones; I find the 4 letter ones better), partly because I don't tend to like the questions they ask. Anyway, functionally I seem to primarily use Ti, Ne, and Se, with strong hints of something similar to Ni in places (might just be a powerful Ti-Ne synthesis, though). My Fe is somewhere off in the distance (perhaps more out of dysfunction than out of lack of preference); my Si isn't really there that much, maybe more than Fe though; Fi is there but poorly controlled and thus disliked; and Te is sorta like Fi in a sense. From direct looks at type descriptions I seem to be dom Ti, sec Pe (where P is a P function), tert Ni (which would hint at Pe=Se according to formal MBTI)...and then the others are hard to arrange.

This is from a combination of tests, type profiles, other people's direct input, and function profiles.