Maybe not a mental illness

[Jesin]

Just passing on this link I found:
http://www.violentacres.com/archives/169/most-people-are-depressed-for-a-very-good-reason

 

[Aphasia]

Read a few of her posts. Her tone isn't my cup of tea, but she's interesting. Thanks for providing this link.

 

[Radioactive_Springtime]

I don't know what it is about fuck that enhances everything so well

 

[loveofreason]

I don't know what it is about fuck that enhances everything so well

It does?

What about tha actual message the writer was trying to convey?

I've prattled on about the same topic in many of my personal writings. In fact it is the central issue for me in my own battle with mental health. I'm not sick because there's something wrong with me. I'm sick because there's so much wrong with the society in which I live.

We live in a society that is so fundamentally broken, as individuals we are each collapsing at our weakest point.

 

[Radioactive_Springtime]

Oh I understand that she was saying we use depression and other such mental illnesses as an excuse to not attempt to solve real problems that require effort.

I can only come up with I'm young and tend to be disrespectful.

 

[Zero]

Sometimes I feel depressed, because I want to.

It is easy for happiness to be fleeting, to be artificial, to be taken away.

Normally I will more likely be stressed or concerned about something...

I am not sure about the writer of this article, but the basics of it are true enough. People have valid reasons for being unhappy. They may not be ill for being depressed. Sometimes people are convinced they are unhappy, just so they can be sold something to make them happy. This is the society we live in.

 

[Ex-User (221)]

Zero:The Fool's right.

I'm depressed now because when I was younger because a load of shit happened, I didn't deal with it and now that it's resurfacing, there's nothing I can do because I missed my chance.

It's not as if can't be happy, but it always comes back.

 

[Dissident]

Zero:The Fool's right.

Looks like Zero: Is No Fool ... (sorry, im so bad at jokes...)
Anyways, i think that we all go through a lot of shit when we are kids, but it can be overcomed, not by taking pills and electroshock, but via introspection and really dealing with it. You are not sick for being depressed, but being depressed may make you sick not only phisically but socially (and INTPs have enough trouble with that as it is).

 

[Ermine]

That's why I don't trust psychiatrists. It may not be for a valid reason all the time, but there are reasons for negative emotions.

I'm just glad that my parents didn't fall for the medicating your emotions and idiosyncracies. Otherwise I'd be a lot more dysfunctional than I already am.

 

[Dissident]

That's why I don't trust psychiatrists. It may not be for a valid reason all the time, but there are reasons for negative emotions.

I dont think any psychiatrist think there is no reason for negative emotions, they put a lot of effort in actually finding their cause, the thing is that even if there is good reason to be depressed, we can all agree that its not good to be so. There is a reason why someone has a heart disease, but it doesnt make it ok.

 

[Ermine]

I dont think any psychiatrist think there is no reason for negative emotions, they put a lot of effort in actually finding their cause, the thing is that even if there is good reason to be depressed, we can all agree that its not good to be so. There is a reason why someone has a heart disease, but it doesnt make it ok.

I'm just saying medication won't solve everything. Like other people said, often the real solution for depression is to deal with the problem. And why did you bring up the heart disease? This thread is strictly about depression. Even if it isn't the victim's fault, I just don't buy the concept of "chemical imbalance" due to past experiences.

 

[Ex-User (221)]

Ah yes, I had to go to a psychiatrist for a while, but they had their own ideas about why I was depressed, so of course, everything they tried was to deal with problems that didn't exist.

They gave up after four sessions, anyway.

 

[Dissident]

I'm just saying medication won't solve everything. Like other people said, often the real solution for depression is to deal with the problem. And why did you bring up the heart disease? This thread is strictly about depression. Even if it isn't the victim's fault, I just don't buy the concept of "chemical imbalance" due to past experiences.

I agree, i didnt say anything about medication, but treatment. Im one of those other people that said that dealing with it is often the way to solve it, but there are people who are more susceptible to be depressed, sometimes about things that most people just get over with no problem, in those cases a neurological illness (chemical imbalance or whatever) should not be discarded, its the psychiatrists job to find out if its purely psychological or there is something else.
The heart desease thing was a failed attempt to make a point, i meant that no matter the cause, if its a problem (which depression is, wether phisical or psicological) it should be treated.

 

[Devercia]

Just throwing this out there. A psychiatrist and psychologist are not the same thing. A psychiatrist is trained to prescribe medicine and usually has a bio-chemical perspective. A psychologist will usually use talk therapy and may have any number of perspectives, but usually not bio-chemical

 

[Linsejko]

And all talk related at this point has been correctly identifying the two, unless I missed something.

.L

 

[Cabbo Pearimo]

"Happy people have no stories."

 

[Da Blob]

That's why I don't trust psychiatrists. It may not be for a valid reason all the time, but there are reasons for negative emotions.

I'm just glad that my parents didn't fall for the medicating your emotions and idiosyncracies. Otherwise I'd be a lot more dysfunctional than I already am.

Hey look at what I found in the "attic"

I have battled chronic depression for most of my life
But then I have lived a very depressing life
I would be Crazy if i wasn't depressed about the whole thing...

Depression is an adapative behavior,
depressed people survive to breed
in a weird kind of "Survival of the Fittest" scenario

Wouldn't be cool if the most depressed people
were actually seen as the sexiest...?

 

[Perseus]

Are you feeling Mad, Bad or Sad today?

Mental illness is an illusion (very cleverly engineered) created by the Fraudians to protect the interests of the right wing (see Political Compass).

Melancholia is just a reaction to avoidant behaviour of the other. If you are feeling depressed smash something! (not you own, something of your adversary!)

 

[Da Blob]

Are you feeling Mad, Bad or Sad today?

Mental illness is an illusion (very cleverly engineered) created by the Fraudians to protect the interests of the right wing (see Political Compass).

Melancholia is just a reaction to avoidant behaviour of the other. If you are feeling depressed smash something! (not you own, something of your adversary!)

Are you referring to the Pharma-cops?

http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/project_index.htm

 

[Gorgrim]

depression is just like physical pain. it's telling you something. fix it. A psychiatrist can guide you if u want them to, but it's still up to yourself really. however, without anybody around to help once in a while i think that might be hard.

 

[Perseus]

Are you referring to the Pharma-cops?

http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/project_index.htm

Psi Cops dispense these poisons.

 

[grey matters]

Thanks for the link Da Blob, for the past 6 years I have been pressured by my childrens school to put my kids on ADD meds. When my son was in kindergarten they wanted to put my son on meds for bipolar disorder. If they were to test him now he would come up negative for everything (both ADD and bipolar). What he needed was to learn self control, not drugs. There isn't much help out there for parents who choose not to drug.

As for the original topic, I loved the link. That woman is hillarious, my kind of humor.

 

[Da Blob]

I am glad you found it
I think that anyone who read Orwells' 1984
should visit that site...

Check out the NeuroAdvertising thread...

 

[grey matters]

NeuroAdvertising,...that sounds disturbing.

 

[Da Blob]

NeuroAdvertising,...that sounds disturbing.

It really, really is disturbing
Propaganda moves up an entire level..

http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/issues/neuromarketing.html