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Male Sexuality, Masculinity and Friendship

Cognisant

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It's a separate but related issue.

You can have female friends and be friends with your lover but being in a sexual relationship with someone won't work if you're merely their friend, nor do do you necessarily need to be their friend to be in a sexual relationship with them.

I specify "sexual" because it annoys me that the word "relationship" tends to imply it, but I like to use it for relationships in the broader sense.
 

EyeSeeCold

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Friends can give you that positive feedback so when you are dealing with women you don't have insecurity weighing you down and for men in a relationship having support outside of it can improve your relationship by making you less reliant on the emotional support of your partner. As for making friends it works in reverse, everyone has a sense of self worth and everyone needs emotional support, you can give that support by reflecting a positive image, simply put be happy to see people, appreciate their time, show interest in their interests and their state mind/health, the great thing about men is that we generally aren't very emotional so even a little support goes a long way.

I think this is good advice in that some people including myself may be seeking relationships(in the common sense) for the wrong reasons. But platonic friendship can only go so far if you are not romantically or sexually attracted to males, not to mention the "male barrier" that takes a long time to break through to when guys are open and sincere.

This is why I brought up female friends, they might serve as a sobering element in one's attitude towards the social gender divide (in real life I mean as online is pretty different), preventing idealization or bitterness and stimulating maturity/integration. Of course, if you have relationship trouble with females in the first place, how are you even supposed to make friends with them?
 

Edibleadam

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Beneath our perceptions and social conditioning there is a biological reality. The human species is just another biological creature with the innate desire to mate and spread his/her genetic material. The denial of this desire can be damning to ones own self worth and their worth to society. Now, that being said, society, its institutions, and the human mind itself, have largely changed the primal instinct still alive in us all. This alone, to some degree, is oppressive. As a male, I do at times feel as if my masculinity is oppressed. I'm not sure if it's all in my head or just a reaction to perceived social norms. As males, we are biologically predisposed to attraction based on physical attributes of the opposite sex. This biological reality is easily construed as objectification, pigishness, and, if not applied within socially acceptable behavior, creepy, harassing, if not borderline rapey. Social conditioning has placed boundaries on the male impulse to act in accordance to his sexual impulses, for the sake of civility, and on a deeper level to protect women's vulnerability, in terms of their fertility and their physical limitations due to sexual dimorphism. In the past half century or so, feminism has been changing the social landscape rapidly, in regards of gender and sex. I don't want to discredit the whole movement, because I do see many of the concerns displayed in the demographic as valid. However, feminists assuming an authority over men's emotions and sexuality, rigging the legal system, making themselves not only victims of the opposite sex, but liabilities to them, and vilifying what used to be largely celebrated, in terms of mens role and sacrifices made to society and their families, is where many men begin to feel their masculinity in under fire.

My rambling aside, being an intp, the world can be a frustrating and most often disappointing place, when the innate desire for sex and relationships exist. If I had a dime for every missed opportunity... My biggest barrier in relating to others, particularly on an intimate level, is over thinking what is not a logical process. Sexuality is inherent in most everyone. As I grow older, I feel myself more capable of expressing my sexuality without shame. In my humbled opinion, the prelude to sex is the belief in ones own sexual viability. There are boundaries when dealing with another being, but those boundaries shouldn't be the walls of our own prison.
 

Beat Mango

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Wait, who's the non-competitor in Two and a Half Men?

I like the term. I'd consider myself a non-competitor for the most part.

I'd suggest that another way to be a non-competitor is to get married. It's kind of a compromise between winning and losing. It's not in every male's interest to compete for dominance all the time, so sticking to one is effectively signalling that you're no longer a threat to other females. This makes it easier to get acceptance in a group.
 
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