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Make a Utopia...

GodOfOrder

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Is there a way to reconcile an information based, technological, society with the mindset and culture of a preindustrial one? Simply put, I mourn the loss of renaissance men, and abhor the thought of hyper-specialization in one field and ignorance of all the rest. I think the perfect man must be well rounded and balanced.

I want to find a way to maintain the industriousness, and progress of modern-day society, but find a way to live at a slower, more old-fashioned pace. I look at all of my comforts and conveniences, like the laptop with which I am currently typing, or the wealth of information on the internet, and see it as far too valuable to sacrifice. But I also see the way we a ruled by time, by scheduling, and by strict formatting in all of our daily tasks, like parts in a well oiled machine. This habit extends not only to those who toil in a factory, but also to the elite; academics, business men, students, etc.

Our way of existence has in a sense become mechanistic, and we have but one function within a greater machine. The deeper we go into our specialty, the more fixed we become, the more we adhere to protocol, the more we think only in the space of our field, it becomes our only purpose. Regardless of how lofty our position, or complex our task, we are analogous to a riveter in a turn of the century assembly line, we only do one thing.

I see before me a blind, and over stressed society, that in its pursuit of knowledge and progress has increased the aggregation of mass ignorance by making all blind to anything but their one specialty. To me this existence seems vapid.

Who wants to help design a Utopia? Just for funs.

For my part, I think I shall reread Adam Smith. I suggest the destruction of organization of both labor and firms. No unions, no corporations, and small business only. Sadly things will be much more expensive.

I don't have a model to present, but perhaps you fine people can help with that. You are also allowed to go off on your own diatribes. Have fun with it.
 

Cognisant

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I want to find a way to maintain the industriousness, and progress of modern-day society, but find a way to live at a slower, more old-fashioned pace.
No you don't, you think you do but really it would bore you to tears and you'd still be inexplicably frustrated, because what you really want is a simpler life, one of clarity.

If you were a farmer in an earlier era and you wanted to be more successful you'd till more land and plant more crops, with your efforts clearly related to your gains you would feel greater satisfaction in the work you do.

The modern world is incredibly complex, and worse ambiguous, it's very frustrating.
 

SierraArcher

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Are we talking about a kind of world that could actually come to exist if humans were to start over and do things a little bit differently? ... Or a completely illogical, or magical, place that is the product of overactive imaginations?

I'm game for either.
 

Nezaros

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It sound like you want a society in which all men are Renaissance men; this is impossible. Society is a great machine and all parts of it, no matter how insignificant, contribute to its integrity. Unless you simply want a world where everybody is self-sufficient and can provide everything for themselves; but this isn't a society, it's a collection of individuals. It's hardly even a collection. And no one will have time to further societal progress. The world has evolved this way for a reason. We need the ignorant complacency of the masses as a foundation for the more intelligent of us to work off of. Without them we would have very little.

If you mean only that you wish for yourself to be able to live this certain way, that's always a possibility. You just have to work for it.
 
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