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Don't want to deal with people, anytime it gets to a personal level it jyst flops from there. I can escape the interpersonal shit if I switch groups and keep a distance, rearing up for a party or 2.

Looking to switch all my social activity to the Internet but I need interactivity: Games involving loot and grind are a big no no.

So my question to you people is How often you socialise with others and what takes up most of your leisure time? A rough estimated hours/proportion of leisure time spent on the task would be nice, hopefully I'll model my leisure time around that lifestyle

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when i dont socialize enough I come back to intpf, consistently
I have found my favorite past time to be cars, I can work on my car for 18 hours per day everyday. right now im out of money so im here
I liked taking classes too, keeping my skills sharp, also forcing me to actually take care of myself, I was on my last semester 2 classes from my associates of biology when I got a shitty professor and decided to boycot the only college I can afford. in retrospect that may have been retarded.
stop being difficult, find something you like to do, then do
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Looking to switch all my social activity to the Internet but I need interactivity: Games involving loot and grind are a big no no.
What do you mean by games involving loot and grind?

What interactivity do you like?
 

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It's easy for me to be social without going out of my way due to my schedule. I'll talk to acquaintances or friends I run into for a while (if time permits). Rarely am I a social group-setting. I've never been attracted to being in a "friend group" outside of 2-3 people, and I have no love for parties.

I wouldn't recommend becoming a complete hermit...in the long run, that will hurt you more than help. Socialization is something we learn, and too much time away, it's definitely something we can forget.
 

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care to share what set you in this path?
 

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I bet this is because you live with a bunch of other ppl in one place and you are freaked out because of your poop dream OP
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It's easy for me to be social without going out of my way due to my schedule. I'll talk to acquaintances or friends I run into for a while (if time permits). Rarely am I a social group-setting. I've never been attracted to being in a "friend group" outside of 2-3 people, and I have no love for parties.

I wouldn't recommend becoming a complete hermit...in the long run, that will hurt you more than help. Socialization is something we learn, and too much time away, it's definitely something we can forget.
I agree, unfortunately you are human, and like most humans you need actual human contact. If you isolate yourself long enough you will lose your social skills and your ability to make friends and probably develop/worsen social anxiety.
I isolated myself for a long time and I really regret it, not only do you lose your friends/social skills, but you miss out on making all the memories.
 

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I bet this is because you live with a bunch of other ppl in one place and you are freaked out because of your poop dream OP
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I can't avoid them actually so that's not part of the equation haha, I don't go out with them so that's a plus
 

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Looking to switch all my social activity to the Internet but I need interactivity: Games involving loot and grind are a big no no.
What do you mean by games involving loot and grind?

What interactivity do you like?

It's just some games are designed around acquiring better loot, and because of the grind they offer the most hours of gameplay typically speaking. Incase someone suggested a game of that caliber.
 

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care to share what set you in this path?

Basically met this girl in my class ENTJ, coincidentally interested in their friend group as all them seem to be bright cupcakes. I'm not talking to her anymore, she's decided to completely avoid eye contact with me talking to the people immediately beside me. Suddenly the people beside me are now sitting inside their friend circle. She's definitely a narcissist, I knew that and she's admitted herself.

Anyways, asked if she wanted to come around to my mine on halloween after we went to our respective parties she said "We'll see!" We talked a bit but I never hit her up, I think she got into someone the night before. So on halloween I talked to another girl at the party called C which my friend for whatever reason kept hammering on we were lovebirds for a solid ten minutes, calling me a "top shagger". If people sat down beside her when I was out of the room for 5 they'd move to let me sit there, like I've claimed her. Also there was a guy who's connected to both me and her so he could've mentioned "I seen Rebis talking to her"

All going good, but another girl who's been my friend for a few years came back from a long trip in america, I asked her if she wanted to go out for halloween, she kinda dropped on the messenger radar and then sent me like 20 messages saying she wanted to see me, I went to the club we made out a lot but didn't sleep with each other (A crazy story why we didn't actually) , it was a popular club she may have had a friend who saw me (She knows fucking everybody I swear, even the people that live in the floor above me.)

Hasn't added me on facebook either for like 2 weeks, I imagine there's a reason for that.
 

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It was going great, the sex was really good and there was no bullshit, then she kept positing "not to fall for her" and "don't be weird", when at the time I was the chillest person ever, but when I was being whimsical with my affection (or thoughts for that matter), like a dominant -J type she'd usually shut down the whimsical thoughts and reciprocate the endless compliments to garner more.

Basically had an argument, didn't talk to her for 2 days and then it never recovered.

Guy I talk to (J) has moved ship to the friend group, and B also has had the hots for me love reacting her profile pictures and such.

I think I literally "fucked" the most popular, eccentric and I'd say objectively attractive girl in my class (there's only like 30 girls out of a class of like 330) and there's just no recovering from that if I've invoked her rage.

The only social leverage I've got is the year above who I'm pretty good friends with, but naturally our conversation isn't natively connected by the topics we're studying.
 

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I've got a few options:
See her at a club very drunk, I don't think she'll hold the grudge drunk and I certainly wouldn't. Reset the clock and such.
There's like a uni fb group that makes memes about people they see in our library "To the girl in red, get in my shed" silly stuff like that. She's been looking to get on it for days "Literally came to the library just to get recognised by QUBlove" I know 1-2 guys that are likely to run it, though I'm not sure they'll admit it, and could possibly get them to give her a shout out. That could please her, or annoy her because she didn't think it was through her effort. Or it could be a secret exchange.

She's in my peripheral all the time, centre position a few seats infront of me, beside me in my programming practical today.

She wants to destroy me, and tbh she has the upper hand and I don't have the commitment to rebel yet. She's a top achiever, has a pretty sweet scholarship while I didn't get one and now I'm working in mc donalds. She's going to send her feelers out to find out what I scored in every test.

If I take her seriously, I'll go through change, but she doesn't look beyond the subjects we're being taught while I do, I got pretty good in my last test (It was worth 50% of the module and even if I get 0% in the next test I pass the whole module). If I don't delve into physics, chemistry, biology and logic in philosophy I could beat her, but is it realistic to rewire my focus like that? I've done it before, but I completely reset over the summer. I need that emotional intensity to make a pact again. I usually value diverse knowledge plates with a specialty in one subject, rather than a person that can't extrapolate their learning in one subject to another. Vertical integration is good, guys!!! She got 100% (Again it's believable, but also pretty easy to lie, she definitely has the ability to be manipulative)
 

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rival, lover or both. It's important to note I don't think she'll ever accept I'm better than her, so the rivalry and love can only exist during the time that I'm rising above her.

Y'know for all the chaos between the combination of INTP and ENTJ (probably narcissism too), I don't step back from it like a rational person. I see it as a challenge. I'm always taking the high risks, Game theory may not work all the time but you can be assured it's my main bet.

Howard Roark vs Dominque francon, this is really how it is my guys. The book seems to portray the exchange rather well. Howard was kind of a crackhead with his ideals, that is how I'm viewed too.
 

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yeah I have never in my life had your problems so maybe someone else can help.
best of luck
 

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yeah I have never in my life had your problems so maybe someone else can help.
best of luck

On a ratio of socialising, she has sent and recieved over 430,000 snapchats I have 410
That's a ratio of 1:1000
Insanity
 

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I dont have a snapchat or fb sooo...
never been to a party in my life
 

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Dios mio... uni is like a soap opera.
Rebis is a 6.2 ft chad swimming in pussy.
 

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I dont have a snapchat or fb sooo...
never been to a party in my life

Lucky you, you don't have to play the numbers game. Neither do I really, used to though. If you want to be social and popular you have to, it be the rules of the game.
 

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On a ratio of socialising, she has sent and recieved over 430,000 snapchats I have 410
That's a ratio of 1:1000
Insanity

This is a red flag. I'd avoid like the plague.
 

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Dios mio... uni is like a soap opera.
Rebis is a 6.2 ft chad swimming in pussy.

I didn't even aim for this, but honestly that's how I'm being betrayed by everyone recently.
I'm the chad that doesn't want to b objectified, hey... I can talk abot stuff that isn't relating to the gym...... you ever read peterson? Guys a genus.
 

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I dont have a snapchat or fb sooo...
never been to a party in my life

Lucky you, you don't have to play the numbers game. Neither do I really, used to though. If you want to be social and popular you have to, it be the rules of the game.
this is an intp...forum...you know that right?
 

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On a ratio of socialising, she has sent and recieved over 430,000 snapchats I have 410
That's a ratio of 1:1000
Insanity

This is a red flag. I'd avoid like the plague.

Are you ever drawn to what you fear? I mean I would look down the barrel of a gun if someone pointed at me. I've been threatened by a hammer, weaponless myself and been like "Go on hit me, but if you miss I'll kill you"

It will kill me someday @Kormak
 

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I thought it was ESFJ @peoplesuck , my bad.

You're all heartless, think about the love. the people. like my status.
 

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On a ratio of socialising, she has sent and recieved over 430,000 snapchats I have 410
That's a ratio of 1:1000
Insanity

This is a red flag. I'd avoid like the plague.

Are you ever drawn to what you fear? I mean I would look down the barrel of a gun if someone pointed at me. I've been threatened by a hammer, weaponless myself and been like "Go on hit me, but if you miss I'll kill you"

It will kill me someday @Kormak
i fucking hate it when i go out to my garage to grab my bike and the hammer tries to kill me
 

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This is a red flag. I'd avoid like the plague.

Are you ever drawn to what you fear? I mean I would look down the barrel of a gun if someone pointed at me. I've been threatened by a hammer, weaponless myself and been like "Go on hit me, but if you miss I'll kill you"

It will kill me someday @Kormak

<_< maybe lol. Idk I overthink everything, cautious & deliberate af. If I weren't undisciplined and disorganized my conscientiousness lvl would be through the roof.
 

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I've got it guys: If I become better than everybody in the class, or more specifically, the scholarship group, she'll not settle for less. Most people in our class are robots (Gotta give it to computer science huh?) So at least in our class, she'll not settle for anyone she feels can't challenge her. I can challenge her socially to the extent I hang around with pretty eccentric people that are all considered "popular", I can challenge her intellectually and I can be pretty dominant.

Action plan @Kormak ?
 

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sooo a narcissist calling someone a narcissist. trollling or foreal?
 

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sooo a narcissist calling someone a narcissist. trollling or foreal?

Could be, could be.

I just like challenging people that are seen as better than me. I dress like someone that take drugs but I'm not interested in them. I've had a weird educational history, taken 10 ASs (which is the first year of A levels (16-18) education, went against the system (I done a geography AS and in one of the tests I just wrote a big letter stating how poor the education system was, I can't believe we're not learning this and that), kept swapping because I didn't know what I wanted to spend my life on.

I like the climb, I don't like the top. I've never taken compliments well like "you're so smart" "handsome fella" etc, I always feel uncomfortable by them because they're just vain they have no context. the only compliments I've appreciated are related to change. Like "wow, you learn fast" and stuff of that caliber. Compliments relating to a rate of change/evolution.

I've never went to an award ceremony, I just want to represent the person that likes to achieve based on their own goals but doesn't want to revel in his own achievements like a narcissist would. I find that breeds weakness, I think I have a strange worldview.
 

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Basically it's like a climb, a challenge. The journey matters, sitting on top of the mountain is the boring part. A narcissistic typically sits above all, in their perception at all times. If I got to the top of a mountain I'd climb another one.
 

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What do you think @peoplesuck , narcissist or not? I'll consider your opinion. Maybe I have an aversion to the word because it's used too often.
 

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I've got it guys: If I become better than everybody in the class, or more specifically, the scholarship group, she'll not settle for less. Most people in our class are robots (Gotta give it to computer science huh?) So at least in our class, she'll not settle for anyone she feels can't challenge her. I can challenge her socially to the extent I hang around with pretty eccentric people that are all considered "popular", I can challenge her intellectually and I can be pretty dominant.

Action plan @Kormak ?

^^ lol nice try.

sooo a narcissist calling someone a narcissist. trollling or foreal?

I bet he is high as fuck.
 

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I've got it guys: If I become better than everybody in the class, or more specifically, the scholarship group, she'll not settle for less. Most people in our class are robots (Gotta give it to computer science huh?) So at least in our class, she'll not settle for anyone she feels can't challenge her. I can challenge her socially to the extent I hang around with pretty eccentric people that are all considered "popular", I can challenge her intellectually and I can be pretty dominant.

Action plan @Kormak ?

^^ lol nice try.

sooo a narcissist calling someone a narcissist. trollling or foreal?

I bet he is high as fuck.

You didn't play ball :/

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I'm not high I'm just in the zone! Feel the stimulated flow!
 

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You didn't play ball :/

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I'm not high I'm just in the zone! Feel the stimulated flow!

All this is very hard to believe, :P it reminded me of this gay INFj I used to know from Portugal tho. The guy was on something all the damn time, in and out of rehab, self-destructive behavior, no-risk aversion. I wonder if he is still alive.

^^; idk mayn, I'm a Ne dom or aux, the above is oozing with Se... e_e as peoplesuck said, this sort of social Se laced stuff is alien to us.
 

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You didn't play ball :/

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I'm not high I'm just in the zone! Feel the stimulated flow!

All this is very hard to believe, :P it reminded me of this gay INFj I used to know from Portugal tho. The guy was on something all the damn time, in and out of rehab, self-destructive behavior, no-risk aversion. I wonder if he is still alive.

^^; idk mayn, I'm a Ne dom or aux, the above is oozing with Se... e_e as peoplesuck said, this sort of social Se laced stuff is alien to us.

What's hard to believe mayn?

I think the main way I access decisions is through feeling, so xxTP is how I normally behave, and then a swap to FJ to take action. Judgement/decision making for me is predicated on feeling, it needs to have meaning even if I contrive one for the sake of taking action. A mindset if you will, existentialism is the default, while a delusion allows me to live in a model reality. Model's grant more enjoyment.

I do act like a contrarian at times, which is representive of the INFJ model but self-destruction is important for rebirth. If I need to change, something must be destroyed.
It's all about the model, if the issue is social dynamics then I can't contribute by logically analysis people as if they were material objects.

I've seen people who're good at specific tasks which are based on behaviour and I've learnt from them. I always chased eccentric characters when I was a teenager mainly because I thought they offered a unique perspective in life, this unique perspective was represented by the behaviour in situations. A shy girl playing league, a loud and obnoxious nerd, a transgender here, a tinkerer there, a guy obsessed with techno, artsy english students with faux coats, bipolar characters, methodical INTJs, ENTP debaters and so on.
 

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We shouldn't rely on personality generalisations for situational knowledge. Infact, an INTP probably has the best ability to adapt knowledge and apply it to different situations.
 

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We shouldn't rely on personality generalisations for situational knowledge. Infact, an INTP probably has the best ability to adapt knowledge and apply it to different situations.

I'm not saying we should stick to the type limitations or box ourselves in nor use type as an excuse. ^^; just saying, that this sort of social power dynamics stuff is alien to me, which in my case explains my shitty Fe and Se. Regardless it sounds like a lot of drama I'd avoid, to begin with...

When interacting with ppl I'm pretty blunt and straightforward, like to keep it simple, light-hearted fun, juvenile teasing. Comfy social setting. \o/ when it turns into the above kind of stuff I'll just bail and avoid.

I dated an ISFP once (yuge bookworm that one) e_e she called me "The Lich King", in her eyes I was apparently "cold", aloof and disappeared often for no apparent reason. >_> she used to stress me with her whining to the point where I'd drop my easygoing nature and become commanding... which was part of the reson I broke up with her.. I hate drama.

^^ so idk what to say Rebis, whatever works for you best. Life is short, live it up while you can, damn 6.2 ft chad INTP.

Btw, you can edit old posts, why post 3x in a row?
 

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We shouldn't rely on personality generalisations for situational knowledge. Infact, an INTP probably has the best ability to adapt knowledge and apply it to different situations.

I'm not saying we should stick to the type limitations or box ourselves in nor use type as an excuse. ^^; just saying, that this sort of social power dynamics stuff is alien to me, which in my case explains my shitty Fe and Se. Regardless it sounds like a lot of drama I'd avoid, to begin with...

When interacting with ppl I'm pretty blunt and straightforward, like to keep it simple, light-hearted fun, juvenile teasing. Comfy social setting. \o/ when it turns into the above kind of stuff I'll just bail and avoid.

I dated an ISFP once (yuge bookworm that one) e_e she called me "The Lich King", in her eyes I was apparently "cold", aloof and disappeared often for no apparent reason. >_> she used to stress me with her whining to the point where I'd drop my easygoing nature and become commanding... which was part of the reson I broke up with her..

^^ so idk what to say Rebis, whatever works for you best. Life is short, live it up while you can, damn 6.2 ft chad INTP.

Btw, you can edit old posts, why post 3x in a row?

Fair enough, I just gathered that was your point since you are quite fixated on classifications, given you go into a lot of detail with socionics and sub-types of personality functions and this was another attempt at classifying someone's personality.

I probably should, but I find people could percieve it as disengenuine to switch the content of the post after someone read it. I don't think that's an issue here however.

And of course sometimes it's just categorical, I'll keep an opinion/view in one box, a "however..." in one and a final statement in another.
 

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Fair enough, I just gathered that was your point since you are quite fixated on classifications, given you go into a lot of detail with socionics and sub-types of personality functions and this was another attempt at classifying someone's personality.

I just know the theory. I think I like this stuff because it allows me to understand ppl, I see the world through abstract systems.. but it is not absolutely rigid at all. ^^ I always make room for alternatives.

Man it used to annoy the hell out of my ISFP gf. "Stop categorising everything and everyone!"

EDIT: oddly back then I wasn't even into MBTI.

I probably should, but I find people could percieve it as disengenuine to switch the content of the post after someone read it. I don't think that's an issue here however.

You can always use/write "EDIT:" and add more information.
 

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I just know the theory. I think I like this stuff because it allows me to understand ppl, I see the world through abstract systems.. but it is not absolutely rigid at all. ^^ I always make room for alternatives.

It's useful for sure, but it's easy to isolate one situational event and apply your knowledge of MBTI to make a generalisation. "Lol you're so INFJ-T"
 

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It's useful for sure, but it's easy to isolate one situational event and apply your knowledge of MBTI to make a generalisation. "Lol you're so INFJ-T"

True. The thing is I'd box ppl into categories and build my own Si comparison based system in order to generalize and understand patterns regardless of my knowledge of systems such as MBTI.

As I said, my ISFP gf used to complain about me doing this be4 I knew anything about MBTI. To her the very thought that ppl are not unique, that they might be like other ppl, that you can see patterns and compare-contrast / categorize and build an interconnected system to see the world through.. is alien. ^^ the very nature of how I see the world offended her deeply. :3 haha she loved me despite that tho... :/ but we'd clash often due to this.
 

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It's useful for sure, but it's easy to isolate one situational event and apply your knowledge of MBTI to make a generalisation. "Lol you're so INFJ-T"

True. The thing is I'd box ppl into categories and build my own Si comparison based system in order to generalize and understand patterns regardless of my knowledge of systems such as MBTI.

As I said, my ISFP gf used to complain about me doing this be4 I knew anything about MBTI. To her the very thought that ppl are not unique, that they might be like other ppl, that you can see patterns and compare-contrast / categorize and build an interconnected system to see the world through.. is alien.

People have an aversion to classification yet every single concept, idol and abstraction is based on classification. But no, not humans, we are infinite potential super soldiers unlock 5% of brain but what about 95%????? AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Literally their train of thought
 

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Dude, let her go. She's not interested and even if she did behave like shit to you, you have to let it go. This is becoming like a defining point for you which you let your life revolve around. We all meet shit people at times who end up hurting us, but we can not let our lives become centered around them or try to get even, better than them etc. You have to let her go.

And yeah, there's a good chance you're a clinical narcissist who let his feelings control his reality and his perception. Narcissists have a tendency to feel something first, and then base their perception and reality on those feelings. They perceive reality and people through their feeling lense. Even when they themselevs feel they are being rational and logical. If they feel the girl in question need status and wealth, then it's not a feeling anymore, it's fact. That's how they DO feel and think like.
 

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Dude, let her go. She's not interested and even if she did behave like shit to you, you have to let it go. This is becoming like a defining point for you which you let your life revolve around. We all meet shit people at times who end up hurting us, but we can not let our lives become centered around them or try to get even, better than them etc. You have to let her go.

And yeah, there's a good chance you're a clinical narcissist who let his feelings control his reality and his perception. Narcissists have a tendency to feel something first, and then base their perception and reality on those feelings. They perceive reality and people through their feeling lense. Even when they themselevs feel they are being rational and logical. If they feel the girl in question need status and wealth, then it's not a feeling anymore, it's fact. That's how they DO feel and think like.

I'm sure there are a lot of people that percieve reality through how they feel, don't understand the deduction. If you wanna go for a full explanation I'm all ears.
 

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I'm sure there are a lot of people that percieve reality through how they feel, don't understand the deduction. If you wanna go for a full explanation I'm all ears.

Yes, all of us do perceive reality through feelings. But in case of narcissists, they tend to have more extreme feelings that dictate more extreme realities. Most people will understand feelings control them to a degree, that they might overreact due to feelings etc. Narcissists on the other hand, when they feel, that is reality. If they feel their girlfriend flirted with that guy they DID flirt with that guy. There is no room to consider whether they were overreacting. Even if she was just being neutral nice. If they feel other people are hostile, they ARE hostile. There's no chance they misunderstood something. If they feel their love interest can be swayed by doing x or y, the girl WILL BE swayed by x or y, that is fact.

Narcissists need their emotional reality, they need things to be what they feel things are like.
 

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All I have is the ability to operate under assumptions, I'm just basing an assumption on my knowledge of that person. Are my feelings reality? Reality needs to be toned through emotion in order to derive meaning from it, otherwise I'd find it meaningless. Why go to work all day to get money and have leisure time if I hate my job? That's a bleak despondent reality if you ask me. If I can percieve my world through meaning, such as feeling and aspiration then I will, because reality can kick back at anytime and say it's all pointless.

Most people are confident in their own beliefs otherwise they wouldn't hold them. In terms of her destroying me that wasn't a concrete idea, I was just ranting and interpreting the possibilities of her actions as it goes by. I know she's competitive so I'm certain that will translate into naturally trying to best me.

I mean I've thought about it for 2-3 days, I've went through a lot of thought processes. I haven't conferred with this person yet so there hasn't been an opportunity to clarify, all I'm left is the reigns of my imagination. I don't talk about my feelings to much people so it's all on me so to speak.

I want stuff to feel like the things I'm experiencing, yes, that is what I strive to experience.

If you want to model me as a narcissist then go ahead, but for a narcissist I really don't get the benefits of ego-centric delusion, infallibility and a general disconcern for others (intimitately speaking).
 

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I'll look up the disorder tomorrow as I have to study for a test, I'll see if I make any parallels and get back to you.
 

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I'm sure there are a lot of people that percieve reality through how they feel, don't understand the deduction. If you wanna go for a full explanation I'm all ears.

Yeah, they are called feelers.
I'm pretty sure I'm a T, because despite having feels about things, I don't act on them unless they are congruent with reason. T's control their emotional side like a rider tames a horse. If what I feel makes no sense, I will suppress it and iquire further, to figure out why I feel the way I do.. but I will not act on it if it doesn't make sense.

Being T doesn't merely mean hig IQ. There are plenty of high IQ erudite intellectual feelers.

Think necromancer from diablo 3, that is a thinker.
 

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I'm sure there are a lot of people that percieve reality through how they feel, don't understand the deduction. If you wanna go for a full explanation I'm all ears.

Yeah, they are called feelers.
I'm pretty sure I'm a T, because despite having feels about things, I don't act on them unless they are congruent with reason. T's control their emotional side like a rider tames a horse. If what I feel makes no sense, I will suppress it and iquire further, to figure out why I feel the way I do.. but I will not act on it if it doesn't make sense.

Being T doesn't merely mean hig IQ. There are plenty of high IQ erudite intellectual feelers.

Think necromancer from diablo 3, that is a thinker.

Thinking and feeling are both apart of the cognitive model, The domain simply defines the dominant factor. When we're talking about my Raison D'etre, the metanarrative of my life that has to draw on some emotional axis to imbue meaning. In pursuit of a career everything is meaningless from a thinking standpoint: Why would I think in 1s and 0s, what's the implicit meaning? Why would I learn mathematical theories if they did not yield something of utility?

Person A:"Why did you learn this"
Person B:"To become better at the task?"
Person A:"Why?"
Person A: "I'm interested in the subject."
Person B: "Why are you interested in the subject?"
Person A:"AI is more efficient at repetitive tasks."
Person B:"Why does efficiency at tasks matter?"
Person A"Because it improves productivity"
Person B: "Why does productivity matter?"
Person A:"Performance matters to complete the task"
Person B: "What function does the task have?"

This can go on forever, and when you reach the core of why to do things it is usually to provide a function to humanity. Sure, people can be motivated purely by challenge but ultimately the function and value of a task is determined by the importance it has to our species survival. Curiousity originates from trying to understand the systems/limitations of our world in order to increase survivability.

I don't passively learn I have to take an active interest in the topic, for that to occur it has to have some overarching function.

I'm not sure about them actively controlling their emotional side, it's rather an underdevelopment of that function. Control should not be equated to ineptitude, people who control their emotions have only done so through resillience and exposure, to that regard Ts have typically had little exposure because of their dominant functions. Lack of perception =/= Control.
 

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Green- Charactistics I have
Yellow- Charactreristics I have to a degree
Red- Characteristics I don't have.

"Have an exaggerated sense of self-importance"

I view myself as being capable of doing a task that others won't do, I don't think that's exaggerated. Though I see it as I'll aim for the stars and maybe I'll get to the top of a mountain.

"Be preoccupied with fantasies"

The world is meaningless, fantasies are a delusion that eliminate that realisation. I don't like being incompetent and being powerless, leaving your fate up to the world is a big bet.

"Associate with equally special people"

I try and weed out people that have a unique quality/behaviour I can learn from, and to some degree I feel I can offer them something if they're interested in different walks/perspectives on life. I wouldn't talk to geniuses on an equal level because thechances I can reciprocate is infinitesimal.

"Unwillingness to recognise the needs and feelings of others"

People make decisions based on emotions ignoring logic or practicality. I won't recognise the tears of someone who's been manipulated repeatedly when they've put themselves in that position and haven't listened to sensible decisions.

"Be envious of others"

Not so sure about envy but I recognise very quickly when I lack something others have.

"Having significant interpersonal problems"

I honestly can't answer that, social dynamics are complex. Emotions are pandora's box.

"Have difficulty regulating emotions and behaviour"

My mood changes, it depends on sleep, alcohol and if I feel under control. Usually I can adapt well, unless I get myself into a pit.

"Feel Depressed and moody because they fall short of perfection"

With each barrier passed there is another waiting. Not depressed, but I feel moody when I know I could do better. I've never been happy with any "achievements" I've been given, achievements defined by the populus and not by myself.

"Have secret feelings of shame...."

I'm not too sure it's secret, but yeah I feel those things, but that's a product of conscientiousness. While you might be satisfied with one level of achievement, someone else requires another level. Humilitation, vulernability and insecurity I don't really feel. Vulnerability when I'm emotional but that's very rare, it takes a longer time to open up the heart.
 

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