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I saw Polanski's Chinatown recently. It has a really high reputation as one of the best screenplays, best film scores, won all the awards in its time, etc. I thought it was good but with that reputation I was a little disappointed, especially as I'm a fan of his early cinema.
It's a film noir that plays on a lot of the film noir expectations. We're essentially following a private detective who is investigating into a case of adultery then murder, but is consistently duped by each of his informants so that nothing's ever what it seems. I won't give away the twists.
I found the plot a bit too dense, which made it overly confusing. I don't mind density of information, I love thinking over background details, motifs and things, but when it's density in terms of the actual plot it becomes hard to follow. We kept pausing every 25 minutes to recap what had happened; I have a low attention span admittedly, but my friend is normally quite observant so I found it odd.
There's some good cinematography and foreshadowing and some of the shots produce their own mysteries. I felt by the end though that it was largely a plot film, with not as much thematic depth as I'd hoped. If you like the genre (or Jack Nicholson) I'd definitely recommend it though.
You make the film sound very appealing actually.
That's a Film Noir trope as well though. Think of The Big Sleep. The plot was so thick in it that at one point the director and the screen writer had to wire the author of the book it was based on to confirm if a character had killed himself or simply been killed. The author couldn't remember.(That's good ol' drunk Raymond Chandler for you.)
However, having said that I have not seen Chinatown yet.
The Big Sleep is fabulous in this way! I've seen it I think three times now, and I still don't quite know what is going on, but I don't mind because I get to watch Bogey puzzle it out before me.
Just watched the last twenty minutes of Primer, after having stopped in the middle about six weeks ago. That was a mistake, boy does my head hurt. Primer is the kind of movie that is hard enough to follow when you watch it in one sitting. Coming into it after having forgotten details from the first 50 minutes just ended up frying my brain.
But it isn't just me: I Googled it after, found a great detailed synopsis, and it's pretty mind-blowing to try to keep everything in order. (xkcd made a joke timeline for the characters in the movie by just drawing a huge squiggle ball with the ends of the lines just sticking out of it at random points).
If you don't know much about it, it's a time-travel movie made on a budget of $7000, which is absolutely crazy, but the director (who also performed about six other duties, including starring in it) ended up making a film that won the Grand Jury prize at Sundance in 2004. I guess one of the reviewer quotes is, "If you understand Primer on your first view, you're either a savant or a liar." The film is specifically written to NOT dumb things down or overexplain, and the quick back and forth hushed dialogue leaves you almost feeling as if you are eavesdropping on the main characters... which was exactly how you're supposed to feel. At the same time, I agree with the reviewer that says it's one of the better time-travel movies out there because of its realism -- not the devices themselves, but the people who invested time travel. Not only did they discover it as a side-effect of somethign else they were trying to create, but they approach it exactly you would expect the kind of people who might actually create time travel to approach it. And they're heavy-tech-inclined, without much ethical wisdom.
I recommend it if you like movies with twists that mess with your head (it's kind of the NT version of Mulholland Drive, IMO). And if you give up watching it a few times to "get it," you can Google the movie to find a few good sites that can explain (more or less) what actually happens.
I found Primer fascinating and engaging. I looked up the xkcd comic you referred to and found it highly amusing (spoilers: Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, Jurassic Park, 12 Angry Men, Primer(!)). Mulholland Dr. I saw a long while back now, and really liked the atmosphere it had going on.
Lawrence of Arabia
Great visuals and film score, I'm sure it would have been tons better at a theater. The motorcycle accident in the beginning wasn't very believable, but I suppose it does effectively contrast with how he unbelievably lived through the desert campaign. I also noticed how everyone he personally helps ends up dying: his escort, the two servants, and the man he went back for. Favorite characters were Auda ibu Tayi, and Prince Feisal to a lesser extent.
I completely agree about the visuals and score, fantastic film. It prompted me to read a lot more about Lawrence.
Strangely, my kids have had this film in their DVD collection for quite awhile, but I never bothered to give it a look. It was just a fluke that I saw it today. I took two of my ESL students, both 9 year old boys, to the mercado to pick out a film to watch in English, and this is what they chose. They certainly enjoyed it, even though they probably understood less than 20% of the dialog. I wonder if I'd have enjoyed it half as much if I'd watched it alone.
It is certainly interesting how our experiences with film vary when shared with others. I have enjoyed watching parts of foreign language films without subtitles on more than one occasion. I personally prefer to watch the first Pirates of the Caribbean film again whenever I get the pirate itch, rather than its sequels which I didn't enjoy quite as much.