just hello

[violetblue]

hi. i took the online test. am new. not sure what else to say, except: hi.

 

[ashitaria]

Ah, hello lad.

 

[Adymus]

Well hello to you too then.

Welcome to the boards, take your shoes off, stay awhile.

 

[Sparrow]

Welcome.

To the left is the geek club. To the right is the nerd club. Which are you?

 

[violetblue]

oh, do i have to pick? i think i'm both, and love both dearly. in a nut shell: word-geek. puzzle-geek. general nerd. (oh--and i'm female, not a lad. i don't think it's relevant, but most do---so to avoid any anger-producing confusion, i thought i'd clear that up.)

 

[Adymus]

Both!? This must mean she is an infernal offspring born from the unholy union of a Nerd and geek!



And probably a witch too... BURN HER!

 

[fullerene]

but we must first make sure she's the same weight as a duck!


...welcome

 

[RubberDucky451]

Both!? This must mean she is an infernal offspring born from the unholy union of a Nerd and geek!



And probably a witch too... BURN HER!

She doesn't realize we all have to make a choice.

YOU CANNOT SERVE 2 MASTERS!

 

[violetblue]

um... thanks for the warm welcome. (watch that torch!)

 

[BigApplePi]

violetblue. You are female? That may not matter now but the knowledge could come in handy at some future time. Are both of those you?

 

[violetblue]

no---i never thought of it, but they do look similar in that photo. one is Andy Warhol. the other is Edie Sedgwick.

me? i'm a tiny Asian bi-racial woman. i don't look anything like either of them.

(handy? i never thought of gender in that way. )

 

[RobertJ]

hello

 

[BigApplePi]

no---i never thought of it, but they do look similar in that photo. one is Andy Warhol. the other is Edie Sedgwick.

me? i'm a tiny Asian bi-racial woman. i don't look anything like either of them.

(handy? i never thought of gender in that way. )

This may be irrelevant but I saw Andy Warhol walking up the avenue a few years ago. Not tall. Don't recall with whom he was walking. Never heard of Edie.

Bi-racial, eh? I am uni-racial, Caucasian, lol. I used to date a Korean though. Does that count?

 

[violetblue]

hello--

sadly, Andy isn't walking anywhere these days. (not without a heater and some serious smelling salts--to quote Good Will Hunting.)

count for what?

 

[violetblue]

ps: you can be bi-racial (if that's what you wish) if i can belong to both the geek and nerd sides.

 

[BigApplePi]

hello--

sadly, Andy isn't walking anywhere these days. (not without a heater and some serious smelling salts--to quote Good Will Hunting.)

count for what?

I don't know what I meant by "count for what"? An Asian connection perhaps. I saw Good Will Hunting. He couldn't possibly be an INTP because they're only 1 percent of the population. xNxx?

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1232312576/tt0119217

 

[violetblue]

(what does xNxx stand for, btw?)

why is it impossible? what if he's in the 1%? (and if it's impossible for him to be INTP---based on the idea that INTP's are only 1% of the population---then you aren't either--and neither am i. )

so what are we all doing here? those of us who don't exist? are we the hallucination of an ISTP (on a bad day?)

and then again---who really is one pure type or another?

 

[fullerene]

the x's are placeholders for when you're not sure which letter should go there, or when people try to generalize about more than one type (for example, "xSxP's pay attention to their environment more than the xNxx's do")

Some people use them to mean "I'm a little of both letters," but that's generally just because they don't know what they're talking about. At least, "pure" mbti theory doesn't allow for it, for various reasons. If you look around for Adymus' posts you'll probably find plenty of explanation.

 

[Kuu]

violetblue... I've seen that name before..


hmm

 

[violetblue]

oh--i see. (thank you.) i'll look for Adymus' posts then. (i'm not sure how i feel about that---that it's possible to fit into only one type. wouldn't you expect results to always be consistent for one individual taking the test? i hear they vary somewhat.)

what i do know---i can read the various profiles of type, and identify with more than one. but will i ever take the test and score on the "E" side? it's unlikely.

ps: and by "hallucinations of an ISTP on a bad day"---i didn't mean we would be a bad hallucination. i meant ISTP flights of fancy going a little far. (you'll have to excuse me. i'm also socially awkward, and have my foot in my mouth quite often. no one seems upset, but i thought i would clear that up.)

is that an INTP trait? is it common to obsess about everything you say?

 

[violetblue]

violetblue... I've seen that name before..


hmm

hi---i just love those colors.

 

[Anthile]

violetblue... I've seen that name before..


hmm

Wikipedia just told me you are a naughty boy.

 

[fullerene]

haha... I'm not even sure what would make you think to wikipedia the name, anthile. Still: lol.

oh--i see. (thank you.) i'll look for Adymus' posts then. (i'm not sure how i feel about that---that it's possible to fit into only one type. wouldn't you expect results to always be consistent for one individual taking the test? i hear they vary somewhat.)

They vary a lot... I think one of Myers or Briggs said that it was only accurate about 75% of the time. Virtually every scientific anything (even in the hard sciences) is only known to within some statistically-determined "ok" threshold, though... even if you're just measuring the length of something, if you do it with high enough precision you'll start getting different results. I'm actually working in a lab now where we have to use a micrometer to measure the distance between two plates very precisely, and repeated measurements always come up +/- a few microns.

Psychology is a much, much "softer" science... so I'm not sure if they even have any set criteria for "good enough to be called true." 75% accuracy may be good enough, when you start considering 1. how accurately the test questions portrays the theory, 2. how honest people are when answering them, 3. how well people know themselves in able to have the ability to answer truthfully (they could just be honest, but wrong), 4. the fact that mbti is declared (by the people who made it) to only represent the "normal" development path (free from strong environmental factors, and not applicable for people with mental disorders), and probably at least half a dozen other parameters between "theory" and "person" that I don't know enough to list.


To be honest, psychology is a little bit too soft for me. I take it as useful because these different types show how some people think, so the next time I see someone complaining to their friend about some third person, I won't think "wow, what an asshole... why don't you go talk to their face, rather than bashing them behind their back?" and am more likely to think "ah, that's probably one of those Fe-types of people, who can't help but voice their annoyance, but equally don't want to hurt anyone's feelings." Beyond little uses like that.... *shrugs*.

 

[violetblue]

thank you. it makes sense. maybe nothing relating to human behavior will ever be 100% accurate, when i stop and consider it.

and a btw thank-you: i've been trying to understand the reason for gossip for quite some time. (one of the mysteries of the social world i never really grasped.) now possibly i have a little more perspective.

 

[ashitaria]

*stops at looks at replies to this thread*

O.O

How come you had more replies in you thread than mine?!?!?!


Sorry. My ISFJ moment.

 

[violetblue]

it's Andy and Edie, i think. (it's funny, isn't it? i'm used to sitting in the corner and petting the dog.)

 

[fullerene]

hahah... as much as I hate to admit it, I've played with a few animals at parties in my day too. It feels less awkward to me than doing nothing, if people aren't trying to talk to me (sometimes they are, and then it's ok, but if they don't... yeah), but I can't help but wonder whether other people think the same. It wouldn't surprise me if "that guy playing with the dog while everyone else talks" was one of those awkward-stereotypes that never got passed along to me.


I think that's why gossip, at least. As best I can tell, it's only half the reason.... though the other half is also Fe-related. That happens when the person who's complaining about some third-party thinks that everyone else doesn't like said person, and complains about them sometimes just to facilitate bonding among the people who are already there. I can at least see where the first kind of Fe-gossip (that I mentioned before) is coming from, and even if I don't think it's the best way to go about things, I can respect it... but this other one very angers me greatly. Something about the idea of not having enough substance in their lives to bond around, so they use picking on someone else to do it.... just yuck.

 

[cheese]

Hi, bi-racial how? What are the components, how do you identify etc.

 

[violetblue]

hahah... as much as I hate to admit it, I've played with a few animals at parties in my day too. It feels less awkward to me than doing nothing, if people aren't trying to talk to me (sometimes they are, and then it's ok, but if they don't... yeah), but I can't help but wonder whether other people think the same. It wouldn't surprise me if "that guy playing with the dog while everyone else talks" was one of those awkward-stereotypes that never got passed along to me.


I think that's why gossip, at least. As best I can tell, it's only half the reason.... though the other half is also Fe-related. That happens when the person who's complaining about some third-party thinks that everyone else doesn't like said person, and complains about them sometimes just to facilitate bonding among the people who are already there. I can at least see where the first kind of Fe-gossip (that I mentioned before) is coming from, and even if I don't think it's the best way to go about things, I can respect it... but this other one very angers me greatly. Something about the idea of not having enough substance in their lives to bond around, so they use picking on someone else to do it.... just yuck.

just yuck... i agree. bonding-over-bashing is no kind of bonding at all, in my opinion. and it makes no sense. the person who may need to hear the criticism---so he/she can address the issue, make changes, or clear up misperceptions---never hears it. and the most crazy-making thing of all? often the gossipers will behave pleasantly to the one gossiped-about---as though it never happened. i think it really messes with trust in the long run. argghhh! (sorry. a personal rant.)

 

[violetblue]

Hi, bi-racial how? What are the components, how do you identify etc.

i'm euro-asian bi-racial. i think i identify as asian more. but several generations after immigration---it's almost moot now.

 

[cheese]

i'm euro-asian bi-racial. i think i identify as asian more. but several generations after immigration---it's almost moot now.

Oh ok. Is the asian on your dad's side?

 

[fullerene]

just yuck... i agree. bonding-over-bashing is no kind of bonding at all, in my opinion. and it makes no sense. the person who may need to hear the criticism---so he/she can address the issue, make changes, or clear up misperceptions---never hears it. and the most crazy-making thing of all? often the gossipers will behave pleasantly to the one gossiped-about---as though it never happened. i think it really messes with trust in the long run. argghhh! (sorry. a personal rant.)

Don't have to tell me twice...

 

[violetblue]

Oh ok. Is the asian on your dad's side?

no... mom's.

 

[ashitaria]

no... mom's.

So do you enjoy being Asian?

 

[Zero]

I like your avatar.

. . .

Welcome.

 

[violetblue]

i don't know... it could use less salt.

 

[bluesquid]

welcome, from one blue to another.​

 

[violetblue]

hello!