Johnny Depp and politics of victimization

[BurnedOut]

So most of you who have watched Heard's testimony probably don't know that Depp was/is an alcoholic and a drug abuser. A person with substance abuse issues is going to be toxic. Sure, Heard has fabricated a lot of evidence but I feel that Depp was a big dickwad and contributed a lot to the downfall of the relationship. I saw a few videos of Heard which were garnering millions of views. It was funny but also pitiable. I could only see 2 children fighting over a toffee in the vilest way possible. Depp's contempt was execrable to look at and Heard's blathering was equally annoying. However, what surprised me is the fact that Depp seemed completely stoned or something.

Whatever the fuck it is, it should have been an in-camera trial. This saga highlights how money can solve all of your problems most of the times. I think that they both are assholes but neither of them deserve to go down like this. Whoever who thinks revenge is funny should probably try to imagine what it would be like to be a laughing stock of millions and millions of people. Heard proceeded to fuck Depp over and Depp sodomized her status quo twice as much.

 

[Rook]

 

[Hadoblado]

This issue has been disproportionately amplified in media. IIRC the daily wire ran a campaign to increase its visibility to game the attention economy.

My understanding is that they were both abusive and that their relationship was toxic. Pretty mundane but everything has to be team sports these days.

 

[Cognisant]

@Rook I got three minutes into that video and he still hadn't made a point, please break it down for me or share something less profoundly inane.

Heard has fabricated a lot of evidence

I haven't been following this but that tells me everything I need to know, it takes a special kind of stupid to try to fabricate evidence against someone who can afford a full legal team, also that whoever is advising her is probably an idiot too, which implies nobody competent was willing to take her case.

I'm sure Depp isn't blameless, I don't know anything about him personally but he looks like a cashed up drug dealer and the way a man presents himself says a lot about the way he thinks. But that doesn't make Amber innocent.

 

[Rook]

@Cognisant there's no point it's a skit. i simply don't care. i've been watching large parts of this trial as a human study and the conclusion i came to is that

 

[ZenRaiden]

Isn't divorce or marriage counceling superior to Bad relationship?

 

[Rook]

Isn't divorce or marriage counceling superior to Bad relationship?

definetely but ppl crazy bro

 

[EndogenousRebel]

I too think Depp's presentation of himself and in the media is a bit too willing to victimize him. There clearly isn't a victim here, it's a deathmatch.

Buut. It's different to express hate towards each other than to cause bodily harm and try to end careers.

It's also different than co-oping political social movements to essentially cheat your way into being believed as the bigger victim.

Fact is this case is about one thing only and it's proving that Amber lied about her and Depps relationship in bad faith, and that it caused Depp to lose a lot of money. Defamation. Everything else is fuel to the media publishers fire.

I suppose the lawyers are bringing up as much as they can too, to paint perceptions positively or negatively, but these too are misrepresentations because these people don't exist in a vacuum. Amber is going to pay for whatever damages shes help culpable for, or go off scott free with a tranished reputation of it's found that it has nothing to do with her.

 

[dr froyd]

this is a mirror image of what was going on back in the metoo-era 2017-2018. The public conducts its own trial and judgment, with everyone piling in, jumping on the trend, and generally behaving like a bunch of apes. Back then accusations were flying left and right, ending people's careers and sometimes lives. This time the herd agrees its time to throw shit at this woman instead.

 

[Hadoblado]

https://www.vice.com/en/article/3ab3yk/daily-wire-amber-heard-johnny-depp

This is the article I read from before. This is the extent of my engagement with the topic so take it with a grain of salt. If this article is to be believed, then I think it's worth being cautious with interpreting the evidence as the case is being intentionally misrepresented to foster media hype.

It's interesting because I genuinely think we need to discuss gender and abuse in our legal system but people tend to be unwilling to engage with it. And now it's being hyped farcically because people are responding so well to it. Kinda confusing.

 

[BurnedOut]

This video is very poorly made. The annoying VFX combined with sarcasm that does not make sense because the reasoning behind it is presented in the form of...sarcasm?

My take on this whole case is that both of them are human beings and being a crackpot is one of the traits of being human. If society wants to laugh at their plight instead of asking themselves if a public court is supposed to be the apex of objectivity then the whole society loses as a result because we can see they both need help not enabling and humiliation. It is a shame the netizens and media are so insensitive.

I fear that Depp is going to get away with whatever he did. He did not do the things Heard accused him of doing but I am 100% sure that he was a very toxic person and was responsible for harassing her. By unilaterally focusing on Heard, we ignore Depps alcoholism and addiction and doubly persecute Heard who has not only been abused by her husband but also being actively witch hunted by the same intoxicated hollow shell of a man.

You cannot let people think that revenge is acceptable in the society. Society is supposed to provide you with social security and emotional stability which you may not get in your private sphere of life. It is important that people don't get in the habit of character assassinating other people because it leads to pervading depravity. Americans know what I am talking about. The dumbfuck President Bush and the narcissist Trump won on empty rhetoric not focusing on their agenda for the state but rather interested in defaming the other party. Trump is emotionally a child like Putin. You cannot elect such garbage human beings to head your state - who cannot articulate their plan but readily are able to paint somebody else in a negative light. That's basically Depp and Heard. This hearing is a testimony to Amercian depravity which is being reflected on a global scale. If you love drama, you are going to get drama from drama until drama is your primary mode of communication. That clearly is good for mental health right?

My previous partner suffered from alcoholism. She later got diagnosed with bipolar disorder.

 

[Cognisant]

If Amber were winning and Johnny were losing would you be so willing to look for shades of grey?

I'm guessing that's how all this started? With Amber suing Johnny for alleged abuse and nobody really cared until she started losing, and the reason this is so interesting is that something like this would normally be kept quiet and settled out of court if possible.

An actor's career hinges upon their reputation and just the allegation of abuse, whether founded in fact or not, can be extremely damaging to that reputation. I think the reason this suddenly became so interesting to the public is that in the context of the #MeToo movement Johnny's fighting an uphill battle, and people know this, they're inspired by him standing up to a gender bias in the system and people want to see actual truth and justice being served.

I don't think he's an angel, nobody is, but I don't think that matters anymore because that part of the case has already been addressed and resolved, and all that remains is to see how deep a hole Amber digs for herself before the final verdict.

 

[Rook]

@BurnedOut My editor mutated dew monkey-pox complications and is currently on dissection leave. I can niot garuantee quakity nor taste of anythiong i post In the iterim. and anyway Papa Meat is an acquired taste, once you get to know his cute small-weinered flabby soul you simply want to consume it:







RE: Sparrow and Bee, i don't know these people. let them sort it out, or the law, or the lynch mobs, non of my business. If they wanna broadcast, sure i'll watch, im a cyber voyeur who likes a good dose of schadenfreude and down dirty bitch slappin' drama, but i watch court tv to get it instead of reality tv.

 

[EndogenousRebel]

Whatever problem or thing that got in between Heard and Depp is between them. This court case was made viable the minute Amber allegedly lied about being a survivor of abuse that Depp never committed. In a spectacular fashion that took time of police department resources.

I'm free to be an alcoholic crackhead and not have someone judge me as morally reprehensible or clinically diseased. It would be disgusting if these things were actually influencing the the trial. "Sorry dude, you have the wrong habits. You must be in the wrong here and in any situation. It's common sense bro".

Don't pay attention to the media they clearly have picked the side on this issue. I will say that I have seen some new sources such as the New York Post adamantly standing against Johnny Depp.

 

[scorpiomover]

So most of you who have watched Heard's testimony probably don't know that Depp was/is an alcoholic and a drug abuser.

Not exactly a suprise for a Hollywood actor, or for someone who is as willing to push the boundaries of modern cinema as Johnny Depp.

I could only see 2 children fighting over a toffee in the vilest way possible.

Well, when they are handed money, drink and drugs like free candy, what did you expect?

This saga highlights how money can solve all of your problems most of the times.

Money has not made Depp's divorce a happy and pleasant affair.
Money has not made divorce easy for Amber either.

Heard proceeded to fuck Depp over and Depp sodomized her status quo twice as much.

So Heard f**ked Depp, and Depp f**ked Heard. Sounds like they're still married to each other.

 

[Rook]

 

[birdsnestfern]

Too much, the only thing I noticed in the two minutes of time I spent on it was watching their faces to learn how toxic peoples facial expressions work.