Ive been thinking about time.

[Ex-User (9086)]

Time to stop derailing?

You are telling the Ne users to stop derailing?

 

[covelent]

Lol, the article states one thing, that we all interpret in the same way. We don't exchange our interpretations of this article, rather, we are discussing the perception of time.

Also, this article has a limited application as it is not a comprehensive and broad study.

Yea so back to my original point. I was really just wondering what details we miss due to our perception of time, whether that be due to too much detail or not enough detail.

 

[Base groove]

Yea so back to my original point. I was really just wondering what details we miss due to our perception of time, whether that be due to too much detail or not enough detail.

No details are missed because perception is an integration process?

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

Yea so back to my original point. I was really just wondering what details we miss due to our perception of time, whether that be due to too much detail or not enough detail.

I am arguing that we miss the details not because of the different perception of time, but because of the different cognitive ability and tools at our disposal.

The translation of input and the storage of this input relies on organs and receptors that have the corresponding nerve connections and areas of memory where they are stored with a certain degree of success and accuracy.

 

[Ex-User (5841)]

I am arguing that we miss the details not because of the different perception of time, but because of the different cognitive ability and tools at our disposal.

The translation of input and the storage of this input relies on organs and receptors that have the corresponding nerve connections and areas of memory where they are stored with a certain degree of success and accuracy.

Which brings us full circle back to crickets.

What/how can they perceive in which we can't?

How does "chirp" translate to both "Hey baby. Come on over here. " and "GET AWAY FROM MY TERRITORY!!!"

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

How does "chirp" translate to both "Hey baby. Come on over here. " and "GET AWAY FROM MY TERRITORY!!!"

Let's say, that this chirp is 8 kb of size.

Our senses and cognitive translation receive 2 kb from that frequency/tone/all other intricacies and we have what we call a "chirp"

Cricket might either receive less, in which case, the intricacies are in the other part of the spectrum, or it is perfectly trainable for us to pick them up or we lack sensing organs to do this;

Or it receives more than 2kb and it builds a full image using its specifically evolved nerve connections in addition to its superior sensing ability.

 

[Base groove]

What if... our senses acquired the entire sound byte

And our perceptual processes integrate the waves into meaningful form?

And the meaning is subjective... and is impressed onto consciousness following a predetermined algorithm?

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

What if... our senses acquired the entire sound byte

And our perceptual processes integrate the waves into meaningful form?

And the meaning is subjective... and is impressed onto consciousness following a predetermined algorithm?

That's what I am calling "cognitive ability", however it is unlikely that our sensing ranges are equal with the crickets.

 

[Base groove]

however it is unlikely that our sensing ranges are equal with the crickets.

The mechanism of sensation is fundamentally the same.....

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

For the record, the most research that's been done in this field is in ornithology, specifically the lab at Cornell.

Basically it seems like there's a gradient of complexity within communication that's independent of communication style, meaning that complex vocalizers also tend to have complex visual communication, complex pheromones, ESP (thrown in for shits and giggles, see Princeton PEAR), etc.

The perception of complexity appears to be relative. But what makes it so, if true?

Yes, what makes it relative is the question.

1.Time flow difference?
2.Sensory difference?
3.Cognitive difference?
4.Other?

One of the above? All of the above? Some of the above? Etc.

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

The mechanism of sensation is fundamentally the same.....

You could have a very light belfry, so there is a signal produced if you pull lightly.

Or you could have a very heavy one, so that the same sound frequency requires more energy.

The process stays fundamentally the same and yet many different things are being picked up and can happen.

 

[pernoctator]

What if... our senses acquired the entire sound byte

but dat coastline paradox tho

 

[Base groove]

coastline paradox

Indeed.

I believe I can accept the logical implications of this.