It is now time for me to upgrade to windows 7

[Cogwulf]

I'll see you on the other side, hopefully

 

[Eljua]

Good luck, have fun, enjoy the ride. Don't forget, the nature of the beast is to confuse and to incapacitate, don't let it get the chance. If it looks like it's going to try it, water cool it openly in the bath, then sue Windows.

 

[Madoness]

We lost another one.

EDIT:
Don't feed the beast. It might get the wrong idea.

 

[Cogwulf]

We lost another one.

EDIT:
Don't feed the beast. It might get the wrong idea.

I was already lost, but now I'll be lost in a better designed place.


I've got to wait for it to download first, I'd forgotten that somehow

 

[Claverhouse]

I Hope Every Evil Little Troll At Microsoft Dies Tomorrow...

OpenSuse 11.2 on Thursday.

It's getting increasingly tedious to wait...


Still, I never judge. Some prefer Fords and some prefer Mercedes.



Claverhouse

 

[Nicholas A. A. E.]

Claverhouse -

Why do you like OpenSUSE? Why do you use it? Be as comprehensive or brief as you will.

Sincerely, Nicholas

 

[Cogwulf]

I tried SUSE, didn't like it, though apparently other distros are much better

 

[Madoness]

I've been using Ubuntu for about two weeks now. Since the last time using it, it has become better and more user friendly.
Though the new distro 9.10 still has some issues compared to 9.04.

 

[nickgray]

Why do you need 7? Apart from DirectX 10 and 64-bit support (which is only needed if you have >4 gigs of ram or have specific 64-bit optimized apps) there's really no reason why one would install 7. Stick with XP

 

[Cogwulf]

Why do you need 7? Apart from DirectX 10 and 64-bit support (which is only needed if you have >4 gigs of ram or have specific 64-bit optimized apps) there's really no reason why one would install 7. Stick with XP

It's better than vista, driver support is meant to be as good at release as vista is even now, program compatibility is meant to much much better than vistas, performance-wise it's meant to be barely more demanding than xp. It has directX 11 whereas it was vista with 10, 11 is actually meant to be a bigger step up from 10 than 10 was from 9. I could get it for only £30 now so it made more sense to upgrade now than later.

As for why I don't go back to using XP, directX is one factor, and just general future proofing is another.

 

[Madoness]

Why do you need 7? Apart from DirectX 10 and 64-bit support (which is only needed if you have >4 gigs of ram or have specific 64-bit optimized apps) there's really no reason why one would install 7. Stick with XP

If he already has Vista.... 7 would be preferred. I would recommend 7 if they were the only choices.
On windows 7 right now, there are still some problems on some computers to find working drivers. Some drivers have to be installed as it would be XP, some as Vista. And still not all programs work. But it uses less memory than Vista, and should be quicker than Vista.
I hope you have no problems considering these kinds of matters, but don't be surprised if you do.

Though I would choose XP.

 

[Ombat]

7.... so shiny @_@

I would love to hear what you think of it. My computer's just about had it and I don't want to download 7 onto it, but if it's so amazing I might just get a new computer.

 

[nickgray]

vista

Oh... my sincere condolences... 7 it is, then!

 

[Claverhouse]

May Bill Gates Choke On The Dead Baby He Eats For Breakfast Every Day

Claverhouse -

Why do you like OpenSUSE? Why do you use it? Be as comprehensive or brief as you will.

Sincerely, Nicholas

One can do anything that a computer may achieve with Linux, according to it's devotees, and can only really understand computing through exploring it's mysteries and discovering how every code works --- the same applies to other opensource operating systems, of course, such as Solaris --- unlike the fearful abortion that is Windows, with it's bloated botched compilation of code; or the prettier and cleaner OS of Apple, but which is also proprietary.

However... I've never had the faintest urge to delve into a pure understanding of code, and through a Zen-like synthesis, to Become One With My Computer. I just want something that works, and is, although merely a tool for my thought, as clear and beautiful as possible.

My computing needs are fairly simple; but anything that can be done is either installed by default --- I don't care for spare, dismal little distros --- or can be obtained free from the repositories. Not all the tools are good, and they are inadequately described, and some are as fugly as anything produced for Windows; but they are there, and they are reliable.

OpenSuse is produced with German clarity and devotion; it uses KDE as default now, although people can choose Gnome if unadventurous --- and KDE 4.3.3 is awesome ( I prefer betas, but in the rundown to 11.2 there's little point in playing about ) --- and, providing one uses the Classic Menu and not the imbecile Kickoff ( Slab ) Menu Launcher, anything is quickly opened. I now prefer the lack of Icons and avoid the clever but useless to me Plasma effects, which are nonetheless there for those who like them. As with other distros, it had 64-bit support long before Windows.

Like Ubuntu ( or Kubuntu for those who prefer KDE ) it's free of course, runs on quite old hardware, is uncomplicated, but can be made as baroque as one chooses; works first time with all necessary drivers including chipset and graphic --- which means not wasting time visiting each manufacturer's website --- comes with OpenOffice and the greatest application of all time as standard ( and there I am on the astounding beta of Firefox 3.6 b1 ), etc.; and best of all, does not help the most morally bankrupt corporation of all time.



Claverhouse

 

[nickgray]

Re: May Bill Gates Choke On The Dead Baby He Eats For Breakfast Every Day

a Zen-like synthesis

Zen? Hmmm... I've always pictured it like that:

 

[Cogwulf]

I have returned from OS limbo

Having an image based taskbar is really confusing me

 

[Eljua]

What's more confusing is how the forum registers your OS.

windows_98_nt_2000

 

[Cogwulf]

Either the forum plugin hasn't been updated for windows 7 yet, or microsoft is trying to tell us something...

 

[Nicholas A. A. E.]

I see. Thank you! I currently use Ubuntu mainly, and I occasionally boot Mac OS X or Windows XP. I have tried Arch Linux, and I liked it. One of these days I will put in the time to configure it into a daily-use system.

I don't like GNOME much, or KDE for that matter (though I haven't actually tried KDE). I tried Openbox and think I like it. I philosophically object to any software that tries to do anything contrary to the primary goal of letting the user do exactly what he wants, based on all the available information which is presented to him as efficiently as possible. GNOME and KDE have this funky idea about usability, and not confusing the user with too much info or too many options. That's fine for those who want that, but I don't.

I use Ubuntu because it works. I would rather use something else, when I find the time to set it up how I like it. The philosophy of Arch appeals to me much. I feel like quoting some of it here. I am not at all practical and very idealistic about computers. I have entertained the idea of becoming a billionaire and spending my fortune designing computers from quantum fundamentals up to UI with this philosophy. Problem is that the target audience is about 0.01% of the planet.

Arch Linux defines simplicity as 'without unnecessary additions, modifications, or complications', and provides a lightweight UNIX-like base structure that allows an individual user to shape the system according to their own needs. In short; an elegant, minimalist approach.

Complexity without Complication.

Simplicity of implementation, code-elegance, and minimalism shall always remain the reigning priorities of Arch development.

Arch Linux targets and accommodates competent GNU/Linux users by giving them complete control and responsibility over the system.

Arch Linux uses simple tools, that are selected or built with openness of the sources and their output in mind.

By keeping the system simple, Arch Linux provides the freedom to make any choice about the system.

 

[Madoness]

Well... windows 7 has been out officially only for two weeks max and it is based on Windows NT.

But now that it has come up... would the forum show a windows 95... Windows 3.0 or Windows 1.1 or 1.0? Though I haven't used last two ones much... I don't know if they even capable of internet. But would the forum show?

 

[Cogwulf]

It's probably that windows 7 hasn't been registered into the plugin, so when the plugin looks at my system to determine my OS, it's not recognizing the W7 marker so it's reading a random bit of code next to it instead.

 

[Nicholas A. A. E.]

Windows 1.0 was very capable of Internet Protocol, as DOS has been since its beginning. Don't know what the forum would show though.

 

[del]

Claverhouse -

Why do you like OpenSUSE? Why do you use it? Be as comprehensive or brief as you will.

Sincerely, Nicholas

Not to step in here or hijack the thread, but IMO openSUSE has, by far, the best implementation of KDE4 available (although Debian has caught up recently). On top of that, it's a strong distribution that's very easy to use and there isn't much need to mess around with it.

So it's a perfect distribution for someone who wants a KDE4 that works, is very stable, and doesn't want to have to manually configure everything.

I have a laptop running Debian + xfce + openbox, which isn't by the furthest stretch of the imagination as demanding as Gentoo or Slack or something -- but I still find that it's a better platform if you want to tinker around with the system. Still, it's nice to be able to hop on a computer without feeling the need to dig around the config files to customize everything, or double-checking the dependencies every time you have to upgrade. (That said, I will begrugingly admit that I do probably like my Debian setup better -- but openSUSE's KDE is sublime.)

 

[Anthile]

 

[Claverhouse]

So... the Day arrived. I gave a decent interval --- maybe 15 minutes from the opening at 2pm --- before downloading OpenSUSE 11.2 64-bit; nobly choosing to do the right thing by torrenting it. Demonoid is still down, but her trackers began working some days ago, so I've just been uploading stuff, which I abruptly turned off to concentrate on this.


Two hours later, I'm getting about 10-20 KiB/s, being connected to 5 seeders ( out of 70 connectees ) and to 68 leeches ( out of 1517 connectees ).

I really should have gone with the direct download... Damn my tender heart.



Claverhouse

 

[Zero]

I've been trying to get Win 7 for my Win computer. I hear it's more stable than vista.

 

[asdfasdfasdfsdf]

windows 7

in case you havent noticed.. us people who use windows 7 have the windows 98/2000 icon showing up. not really bothing me, but figured i would point it out if no one else noticed.

 

[Wish]

Re: windows 7

Oooooh alright. Here I was privately snickering to myself seeing as you had such an outdated operating system. I guess I'm not better than you after all..

 

[Claverhouse]

Re: windows 7

That's up to the hack creator to update if he ever wishes to so do.


On some posts not even my operating system appears, because I'm running an almost daily updated beta of Fx [ 3.6 b4.4.4 right this minute ].

Oooooh alright. Here I was privately snickering to myself seeing as you had such an outdated operating system. I guess I'm not better than you after all..

Well, Windows 7 is only just outdated. Microsoft will start pushing for suckers Windows Users to give money to Microsoft get ready for Windows 8 this summer.



Claverhouse

 

[asdfasdfasdfsdf]

Re: windows 7

That's up to the hack creator to update if he ever wishes to so do.


On some posts not even my operating system appears, because I'm running an almost daily updated beta of Fx [ 3.6 b4.4.4 right this minute ].






Well, Windows 7 is only just outdated. Microsoft will start pushing for suckers Windows Users to give money to Microsoft get ready for Windows 8 this summer.



Claverhouse

i stuck with xp until like a month ago when i got windows 7, i only got windows 7 because programs that were being made werent compatable with xp any longer.. so.. im pretty sure i wont be upgrading for at least a few years..
i guess i wouldnt have to worry to much about upgrading to new versions of windows and compatability with games if i only booted into my linux ... since then i wouldnt come to expect to be able to play most games.

 

[Claverhouse]

Re: windows 7

Well, Linux OSes are generally state-of-the-art. Their applications however are generally poorly presented and unpolished.

When one compares the excellence of Firefox, or even poor old Opera, with the average music player or image viewer on linux, it's not a great advertisement. And yes, they are all free: but so are Firefox and Opera and they still look professional.



Claverhouse


:smiley_emoticons_mr

 

[Toad]

Re: windows 7

Just got a new laptop with W7 installed. I must say it is really nice. Much smoother than vista.

 

[Toad]

Win7 is aweeeeeeeesomme

 

[Anthile]

Threads merged.

 

[Decaf]

I just got an Asus EeePC with Windows 7 and I'm very happy. Not only is it vastly superior to Vista as far as basic operation, its also superior to XP in terms of user friendliness and feature accessibility.

 

[Traianus]

I can't say I'm greatly surprised to see a lot of linux users here. I'm a longtime linux guy myself and prefer Redhat based distros. I really like gentoo as well, but it's kind of a pain to maintain.