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ISTP - INTP

Black Rose

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Introverted Thinking seems to be all about reflection on any subject.
This is different from actual engagement with real-world thinking (Te).

INTP is different from ISTP because Ne is what drives INTP. Ne is more so an assortment of associations, a collection of all possible things in the world. INTP will take reflection (Ti) and dive into Ne speculations. It will take all possibilities, reflect on their true nature, and then release a flood of example counter examples of all conceptual contents.

ISTP is not the same as xSFP because Fi drives Se into an attachment of what is present. Ti will make Se more about tinkering/experimenting with Se, that is it will be about getting Se to turn into something. Fi will take Se and form extreme likes and dislikes, emotions will burn these perceptions into some kind of motivation. Ti instead, will codify Se perceptions into small algorithmic units.

If INTP were to do computer programming they would start thinking of all structures and substructures. ISTP would look at a task and what smaller algorithms must be in place first then build on top. ISTP would use Ni as the base or what would be considered a subjective notion of the idea that is to be solved first then rely on it for each part.

Te would actually if writing a program make a model of the problem first, gradually taking things apart and putting them together but also taking all the data on what is necessary for the completion of the code. It is empirical so studying the problem and making sure it can all be related to the result as every angle of it and every facet of the design is something to be experienced first and used as a mental tool for construction.

Te-Se and Ti-Ni then are and have similarities, In the ISTP it is about the smaller steps, and in INTJ it is about the final product. The Ti process is one: enhanced by Ni contemplation, two: developed when they see something works. Te and Se will see what works and then engage with a new experiment. The difference is that Ti will reflect on what has been seen to work via Se and then come up with a new subjective idea about it (Ni).

INTP
Ti - Reflect on Ne possibilities that were induced from the environment.
ISTP
Ti - Reflect on what has been seen to work (Se) then come up with new ideas (Ni).

This is what it means to be INTP or ISTP.
 

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Ti - reflection on meaning
Fi - emotional attachment
Ni - subjective idea contemplation
Si - bodily engagement

Te - empirical testing
Fe - emotional detachment
Ne - associative environmental ideas
Se - sensory resolution/fixation

ISFP - strong emotional attachment form from sensory stimuli
ESFP - sensory stimuli trigger strong emotional reactions
ISTP - reflects on the meaning of environmental details
ESTP - gets caught up in details and what they mean
ISFJ - relates to their actions in a detached way
ESFJ - detaches from self and simply acts
ISTJ - bodily engages in testing things out
ESTJ - tests things out and relates this to how engaged they are
INFP - becomes attached to the associates they make
ENFP - associations trigger certain prior emotional attachments
INTP - reflects on the associations they have made
ENTP - associations they make trigger more and more reflection
INFJ - ideas coming from inside them are contemplated in a detached state
ENFJ - detachment can lead to spontaneous contemplations in the moment
INTJ - contemplated ideas arising from the self must be tested
ENTJ - when testing ideas more ideas arise and must contemplated

ISTP (Ti - Se - Ni - Fe)

reflects on the meaning of environmental details
ideas coming from inside them are contemplated in a detached state

INTP (Ti - Ne - Si - Fe)

reflects on the associations they have made
relates to their actions in a detached way
 

ZenRaiden

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I am INTP or at least I think I come close to this profile more
Ti - is dissecting and skeptical, but also discerning and fragmenting
Ne- Feels like web of facts put into system or framework. We are like spiders we build the webs then we eat them and then next day we build them up again.
Si - the best way to describe this we tend to remember shit others don't.
Fe - feelings are objective facts to us, but we tend to put our own last.
I would also say due to trauma I would also distrust emotions and discount my own or others emotions. I would use Ti to deal with emotions.
My brother is ISTP
Ti - for him is same
Se - means he has an idea and puts it into action instantly
Ni - means he can follow ideas up
Fe - same for him.

So I would say things like hey airplanes are cool yadayadayaydayydaydayay blablbalba
He would say hey want to ride bikes down hill?
Id say no we would fall, ... yeah my friend fell and broke a bone so you cannot fall going down hill, lets go.
 

Black Rose

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Ne- Feels like web of facts put into system or framework. We are like spiders we build the webs then we eat them and then next day we build them up again.

seems like we have the same thing going on, but it may be that Ti and Fi are not doing it in the same way?

Ne - bouncy
Si - ingrained
Se - fixated
Ni - insightful

Ti - inquisiting
Fe - negating
Fi - attaching
Te - experimentive

My brother is ISTP

I know a person who can actually see things in the same way Lucy can.

Lego Movie - Best of Wyldstyle (Lucy)​

 
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