Isn't it awesome to be a guy?

[eagor]

Having a penis has its benefits. But there's definitely something fulfilling about putting it between your legs and pretending that you're a girl.

one of the most intelligent things I've heard all day

 

[kantor1003]

ha! The memories! Had plenty of fun with that one as a kid.

Ehm... perhaps I should have kept that for myself. *cough*

 

[Minuend]

You seem to take it quite seriously if I may say so.
"unthinking masses" pffth.

If you by "it" mean Cog's increasing childishness where he tries to get back at women who hurt him in the past by irritating random women on the internet, then yes, it is irksome. He has closed the drapes for reason and is now guided purely by bitterness and desperation to avoid looking himself in the mirror and see his own flaws. The best way to escape yourself is seeing other people as guilty instead.

Not to mention, some women here have experienced abuse, rape and violence from males. And these are the people he choose to get back at. Kicking people who are down just so he can put a smile on his face when he sees them having "reactions".

Stop blaming everyone else and take some responsibility for once. Everyone get screwed over.

Silly threads don't bother me, but he specifically stated that his intention was not light-hearted humor, but trolling to get people to react.

This is not my reaction to this one thread, but to his increasing irksome behavior in general.

 

[kantor1003]

Yes, I see your point. One thing. You always seem to linken misogyny-esque attitudes with the idea that the person expressing them is bitter due to shortcomings, or bad experiences with the opposite sex. Although I do believe it's an accurate hypothesis in many instances, it's not always so. Do you know this is the case with cog, or are you just making your regular connection? In instances (not this one) where you don't know and you mention how it's all due to bitterness without adding anything more to your argument pertaining to the subject matter, it would seem to me to look similar to an ad hominem. Not saying that it's not justified however. That is perhaps subject for debate.

 

[Jennywocky]

I have not yet BEGUN to be embarrassing.

Ah yes, I had an inkling that you were, so far, holding back on us.

I've tried thinking about the best part of being a woman and I can't think of anything, mainly because I'm not a woman and I don't know.

Smarter, prettier, creativer, maturerer? And guys want us, whereas we can afford not to care?

More serious answer: Chocolate. *gaaaaaa drooool* Also, funner undies, more marketing aimed at us, and we don't smell as bad after working out. The only thing I'd think we'd consider a bartering chip is peeing standing up, like someone else mentioned...

 

[Architect]

More serious answer: Chocolate. *gaaaaaa drooool* Also, funner undies, more marketing aimed at us, and we don't smell as bad after working out. The only thing I'd think we'd consider a bartering chip is peeing standing up, like someone else mentioned...

Women can smell way worse after a workout - usually do in my experience

I think women have it worse unfortunately, mostly having to do with having a more rigidly defined role. Women do it to each other, which makes it the worst form of mind control. Has to do with the mothering cycle I believe, watch some mommies get together and see how they behave.

On the other hand, men suffer from this too. How many times have I nearly run screaming from the 'hey-yuh!' guy-ism, slap me on the back and trade mutual insults behavior?

Women have a harder time with midlife, generally. I don't know, I prefer being male but I don't know if I could see it differently, giving the hard-wiring.

 

[Jennywocky]

I think women have it worse unfortunately, mostly having to do with having a more rigidly defined role. Women do it to each other, which makes it the worst form of mind control. Has to do with the mothering cycle I believe, watch some mommies get together and see how they behave.

Well, the group dynamics can sometimes suck if you don't fit in.

On the other hand, men suffer from this too. How many times have I nearly run screaming from the 'hey-yuh!' guy-ism, slap me on the back and trade mutual insults behavior?

Awww... sounds like fun! And you get to go to the mancave and play video games instead of picking up the laundry and loading the dishwasher.

Women have a harder time with midlife, generally.

Why do you say that? (just curious... and typically the "midlife crisis" is attributed more to males.) There are definitely some role changes that occur for mothers in mid-life; men still remain the worker and breadwinner, but moms who identify themselves as such suddenly do not have their kids around anymore. Stll, mid-life for women is typically spoken about as a "reawakening" time to the possiblities of who we could become, it's more liberating.

 

[Architect]

Well, the group dynamics can sometimes suck if you don't fit in.

INFJ friend-o-mine (my wife) complains incessently

Awww... sounds like fun! And you get to go to the mancave and play video games instead of picking up the laundry and loading the dishwasher.

And watch 'the game' and pretend to be interested

Why do you say that? (just curious... and typically the "midlife crisis" is attributed more to males.) There are definitely some role changes that occur for mothers in mid-life; men still remain the worker and breadwinner, but moms who identify themselves as such suddenly do not have their kids around anymore. Stll, mid-life for women is typically spoken about as a "reawakening" time to the possiblities of who we could become, it's more liberating.

Yeah, you're right it's more complex then I said. Wikipedia states that the mid-life crises has some controversy as to whether there is such a thing, and it agrees with you that - if it is real - that men are supposed to have a harder time.

I'm going by my experience where the women (my mom, wife, etc) I've observed seem to have a harder time - or at least a harder time coming out of it. Most of the men go through the job/life thing, then generally go on to enjoy a well deserved retirement in some form or fashion. So my observation is totally anecdotal, and there is discussion of whether mid-life crises is real at all.

Mid-life doesn't seem to be well covered in society. Not sure why, maybe because the people that would be doing the studying are the ones who don't want to think of it (more mature folks).

 

[Minuend]

Yes, I see your point. One thing. You always seem to linken misogyny-esque attitudes with the idea that the person expressing them is bitter due to shortcomings, or bad experiences with the opposite sex. Although I do believe it's an accurate hypothesis in many instances, it's not always so. Do you know this is the case with cog, or are you just making your regular connection? In instances (not this one) where you don't know and you mention how it's all due to bitterness without adding anything more to your argument pertaining to the subject matter, it would seem to me to look similar to an ad hominem. Not saying that it's not justified however. That is perhaps subject for debate.

I don't think I do it that often. But yes, Cog has been bitching about women and dating on the forums quite a lot. And I have a tendency to speculate about people's motivations, so I sometimes bring out those because when you are stuck in a rut you can't be reasoned with. Logic is futile, it is in those situations people are more prone to reinforce their own beliefs trough debate. I only tend to do this when I think people are caught in their emotions

 

[crippli]

Aren't suicide rates 1:4. So life is harder for guys in general. Even murders take a much larger chunk out of the male population.

The numbers indicate if not prove that it's a lot more dangerous to be a guy.

I just noticed from I grew up. Of those I knew one girl overdosed. But maybe 15 guys I've known or had some contact with have died in some manner or another. All before 25.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

@Minuend

I can't help but think there's something going on under the surface because the situation doesn't seem as overt nor dire as you make it out to be. Not to put you on the spot or make you feel invalidated, but as an outside perspective it does seem like there is underlying fixation and distress due to perceived foul motivations. Earlier you approached me for something similar I said in regard to ENFPs when what I was talking about had nothing to do with any personal feelings toward women, you did assume it had to do with intimate rejection and relationships(but I know I did use the word 'close', still).

My point is if you have a burden you want to get off your chest, please don't hold back & use it as ammunition instead.

 

[Jennywocky]

Aren't suicide rates 1:4. So life is harder for guys in general. Even murders take a much larger chunk out of the male population.

Guys are just much more apt to use a violent and final means of offing themselves. Women are notorious for "soft kills" that don't typically do the job.

The numbers indicate if not prove that it's a lot more dangerous to be a guy.

Well, the draft doesn't help either.

I just noticed from I grew up. Of those I knew one girl overdosed. But maybe 15 guys I've known or had some contact with have died in some manner or another. All before 25.

I only know one guy who has died (he was playing russian roulette and was kind of suicidal / acting out for years before hand), but I know a few girls... albeit dying from cancer, etc.

 

[Jennywocky]

INFJ friend-o-mine (my wife) complains incessently

Yeah. We IN's particularly seem to gripe about it... kind of the opposite of who we naturally are.

And watch 'the game' and pretend to be interested

Awwww... Sports games on TV, yes. But video games can be fun!

I'm going by my experience where the women (my mom, wife, etc) I've observed seem to have a harder time - or at least a harder time coming out of it. Most of the men go through the job/life thing, then generally go on to enjoy a well deserved retirement in some form or fashion. So my observation is totally anecdotal, and there is discussion of whether mid-life crises is real at all.

yes, I don't know what happens after. Men typically exhibit their mid-life crisis more too, because...well, that's what they do. They've been directing resources to the family; now they start redirecting some of their resources back at themselves. Typically wives and moms feel so burdened by responsibility for others directly that they just don't allow themselves time to explore... and women also like i said typically have some identity investment in those roles. The ending of the "mom" thing can be brutal.

i dunno. I feel very empowered now with my kids more grown, and finally discovering my own life. Sad on one hand, liberating on another.

Mid-life doesn't seem to be well covered in society. Not sure why, maybe because the people that would be doing the studying are the ones who don't want to think of it (more mature folks).

Well, there's not even an acute reason to study it. If mid-lifers were killing themselves left and right, then maybe it would be studied more. It seems there's so much variance in the behavior, and no dire need to study it...

 

[Orja]

@Minuend

I can't help but think there's something going on under the surface because the situation doesn't seem as overt nor dire as you make it out to be. Not to put you on the spot or make you feel invalidated, but as an outside perspective it does seem like there is underlying fixation and distress due to perceived foul motivations. Earlier you approached me for something similar I said in regard to ENFPs when what I was talking about had nothing to do with any personal feelings toward women, you did assume it had to do with intimate rejection and relationships(but I know I did use the word 'close', still).

My point is if you have a burden you want to get off your chest, please don't hold back & use it as ammunition instead.

I have to say that Minuend's response here was in line with my own, and I am INTP. It is hard to suffer abuse based on the ridiculous worldview of others, and then find the echoes of the same attitude being expressed "for fun". Often, abusive behavior develops from a bitter person who finds him(her)self in a position of power over another. It is important for our own mental health to remain open, and reject feelings of bitterness against those who may have wronged us. But as such, we must protect ourselves from those who would inflict further harm.

 

[Mello]

If I want to troll sometime in the near future I now know how to go about it.

Oh, and mello, stop with the bitching already


You seem to take it quite seriously if I may say so.
"unthinking masses" pffth.

Fuck you, @kantor1003.

Fuck you, @duke of new york.

<3

 

[Cognisant]

I'm loving all the attention.

If you by "it" mean Cog's increasing childishness where he tries to get back at women who hurt him in the past by irritating random women on the internet, then yes, it is irksome.

Please don't go making such brash assumptions about my feelings, my personal life is firstly none of your business and secondly far more complex, I admit I have hurt and been hurt by women in my past and present, but I have no grudges at this time, if anything I've given more harm than I've received.

I have a knack for it, no?

This thread was never intended to be an attack on anyone, my opening post was purely satirical, indeed I felt the very way it was presented (to lure people into mistakenly agreeing with it) was true to the very essence of satire, I had hoped to fool some fools and in doing so give the women of the forum (particularly people like yourself) acceptable targets with which to address these blatant issues of inequity; true to life these issues don't arise in this forum for discussion because people know how far they can go before "crossing the line", just like how corporate favouritism in promoting males is just short of being enough of a problem for anyone to effectively make a fuss about it.

 

[Architect]

Awwww... Sports games on TV, yes. But video games can be fun!

I never seemed to have those relatives.

yes, I don't know what happens after. Men typically exhibit their mid-life crisis more too, because...well, that's what they do. They've been directing resources to the family; now they start redirecting some of their resources back at themselves. Typically wives and moms feel so burdened by responsibility for others directly that they just don't allow themselves time to explore... and women also like i said typically have some identity investment in those roles. The ending of the "mom" thing can be brutal.

Maybe for men it's more external (job related), and women its internal (identity...) Internal, external, go figger ...

i dunno. I feel very empowered now with my kids more grown, and finally discovering my own life. Sad on one hand, liberating on another.

You had kids when you were younger, we were relatively late parents. Advantages and disadvantages to both, we got a looooong honeymoon, but now I would appreciate being able to concentrate on myself more than be a caregiver. Or maybe I'm just selfish by nature.

Well, there's not even an acute reason to study it. If mid-lifers were killing themselves left and right, then maybe it would be studied more. It seems there's so much variance in the behavior, and no dire need to study it...

I don't think so. I hear - from several female relatives - the lament 'why didn't anybody tell us (it was going to suck this bad)'. There wasn't a lot of preparation for mid-life, gets glossed over.

 

[Minuend]

This thread was never intended to be an attack on anyone, my opening post was purely satirical, indeed I felt the very way it was presented (to lure people into mistakenly agreeing with it) was true to the very essence of satire, I had hoped to fool some fools and in doing so give the women of the forum (particularly people like yourself) acceptable targets with which to address these blatant issues of inequity; true to life these issues don't arise in this forum for discussion because people know how far they can go before "crossing the line", just like how corporate favouritism in promoting males is just short of being enough of a problem for anyone to effectively make a fuss about it.

Does that mean you have changed the view you declared just a few months ago?

Oh, joyous! This requires a drink! Staying out of ill feelings and thoughts are indeed of the harder things to do in life so overcoming such requires celebration.

ALCOHOL FOR EVERYONE!

I don't expect you to want to drink with me, but at least I can start respecting you again. I don't care whether it's mutual. Only when people feel at ease with themselves can they change the world.

Escy, I read that after reading some other crap, so it's a psychological phenomenon that I would read your post in the same context. There has been a lot of hostility towards females lately. Sorry about that D :

 

[kantor1003]

Yay! A tranquil resolution. Does that mean that we now can continue blaming women for everything, delving into the finer nuances of why they are the inferior sex?
Doing it over a glass of wine would be even better

 

[Cognisant]

Does that mean you have changed the view you declared just a few months ago?

I believe every time I go to sleep I lose continuity of consciousness, therefore each and every day I am a brand new person, I just happen to have the memories of my predecessors.

ALCOHOL FOR EVERYONE!

YAAAAAY

I don't expect you to want to drink with me, but at least I can start respecting you again. I don't care whether it's mutual.

*head pat*

 

[Mello]

Yay! A tranquil resolution. Does that mean that we now can continue blaming women for everything, delving into the finer nuances of why they are the inferior sex?
Doing it over a glass of wine would be even better

You're the one bitching now.

 

[Jennywocky]

This thread was never intended to be an attack on anyone, my opening post was purely satirical, indeed I felt the very way it was presented (to lure people into mistakenly agreeing with it) was true to the very essence of satire, I had hoped to fool some fools and in doing so give the women of the forum (particularly people like yourself) acceptable targets with which to address these blatant issues of inequity; true to life these issues don't arise in this forum for discussion because people know how far they can go before "crossing the line", just like how corporate favouritism in promoting males is just short of being enough of a problem for anyone to effectively make a fuss about it.

...I thought the linkies kinda gave it away.

 

[crippli]

So men aren't awesome after all? It was just a joke and satire? Did I understand that correctly? We can all calm down?

 

[kantor1003]

You're the one bitching now.

aww, are you still bitter? I thought you telling me to fuck myself was enough!
I'm not bitching. That was me posing a humorous question enthusiastically. You should have picked a better spot for retribution. Don't worry, it is bound to come up sooner or later

 

[Mello]

aww, are you still bitter? I thought you telling me to fuck myself was enough!
I'm not bitching. That was me posing a humorous question enthusiastically. You should have picked a better spot for retribution. Don't worry, it is bound to come up sooner or later

Aww. Me, bitter? ;]

Well, have you fucked yourself, yet?

If you need assistance, I can give you my address and I might have something that will help with that.

 

[kantor1003]

Well, have you fucked yourself, yet?

Only slightly.

If you need assistance, I can give you my address and I might have something that will help with that.

What do you mean? Do you have a penis? In any case, I don't see how that would help at all really. After all, the task at hand is a one man job.
To be a tad more serious, I would never fuck myself to satisfy someone else*. It must be something I'd want for myself and frankly, I don't think I'll ever get so old and bored for me to consider that seriously.

*ehm, there are some exceptions I guess.

 

[Mello]

Only slightly.

What do you mean? Do you have a penis? In any case, I don't see how that would help at all really. After all, the task at hand is a one man job.
To be a tad more serious, I would never fuck myself to satisfy someone else*. It must be something I'd want for myself and frankly, I don't think I'll ever get so old and bored for me to consider that seriously.

*ehm, there are some exceptions I guess.

Well, the police confiscated my butterfly knife and x-acto knives, but we can use kitchen knives instead.

 

[kantor1003]

You already know the drill I see. Well, you have fun. I'll stay out of this one (and preferably as far away from you as possible).

 

[Paranoid Android]

...clearly more intelligent (name me five famous female scientists

Yeah. Of course the social pressure and the idealisation of women (and pushing them into their stupid roles) have nothing to do with this.

Yay. Hurray. You're a man. *celebrate*


Now I'm just fooling around too, you know.

 

[Minuend]

^That avatar is awesome O_O

 

[Mello]

You already know the drill I see. Well, you have fun. I'll stay out of this one (and preferably as far away from you as possible).

Your loss, honey.

 

[Cognisant]

Now I'm just fooling around too, you know.

I'm always up for fooling around