Is reality as we know it simply a hologram?

[deadpixel]

I sort of always had the notion that, everything is holographic in a sense that reality is only what our brains allow us to perceive, processed by a tiny part of our brain through our optic nerves, which are all just electrical signals really.

But what about the theory that reality and the universe is just a hologram being projected from some (at the this moment unknown) source of data? Does it seem kind of far fetched or does it make sense?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOcS2BaCV_4

 

[Cherry Cola]

Is it really worth speculating about.. I mean why would it be so?

 

[EyeSeeCold]

How would this idea account for hand-eye coordination in touching the "physical world"?

Or is this a differrent concept of hologram? Could you explain?

 

[Helvete]

How would this idea account for hand-eye coordination in touching the "physical world"?

Or is this a differrent concept of hologram? Could you explain?

I didn't watch the video, i cba but I guess we'd perceive feeling something we're not and that would satisfy.

 

[paradoxparadigm7]

Cogito ergo sum. Nuf said

 

[Base groove]

I'm not gonna bother with the video I will however refer back to something I read in a book earlier today,

There is a theory known as the weak holographic theory (I believe) that generally implies that you can absolutely judge a book by its cover hahaha. Puns.

Theoretically the size of the "screen" is directly proportional to the amount of information the "thing" can physically contain. It has to do with spin networks generating the illusion of space .. the nodes and kinks in the spin networks are what create specific relationships that define the difference between events (i.e. spacetime).

bleh.

 

[deadpixel]

How would this idea account for hand-eye coordination in touching the "physical world"?

Or is this a differrent concept of hologram? Could you explain?

Perhaps the human mind has evolved in such a way that it has interprets the holographic world into what we know as physical experiences.

With that being said, we can only perceive the universe as we know it with the senses we were born with, there's probably a lot more to the universe than what the senses and mathematics have the ability to explain.

This is the theory explained via nobel prize winning physicists. Most physicists agree with the theory, I personally dont know shit about physics but the video explains the theory in a way that is understandable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsbZT9bJ1s4

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Okay I watched the first video I guess I can sort of understand it, if I can determine what is meant by "2D information". They used computers as an analogy, but digital computer information is built from electronic signals which is readily understandable.

Whether I can grasp the concept or not though I agree with the underlying possibility:

"...You find all sorts of mental pictures which do not exist as objective facts. For instance, we see colour and hear sound, but in reality they are oscillations. As a matter of fact, we need a laboratory with very complicated apparatus in order to establish a picture of that world apart from our senses and apart from our psyche, and I suppose it is very much the same with our unconscious..." (pg 7)​

- Carl Jung, Analytical Psychology: Its Theory and Practice

 

[deadpixel]

Yes exactly, in order to fully understand this concept we have to separate ourselves from our senses and how we've lived our entire lives perceiving the world, it cannot be understood by the norms of our senses. The computer analogy is a good one and the best one to use, its the only thing out there that resembles their theory even though it might be different in its nature. What they are proposing is almost like the movie the matrix.

 

[The Void]

Is hologram as we know it, simply a reality?

 

[The Void]

Is hologram as we know it, simply a reality?

This makes no sense, sorry, I was just passing time, sorry for polluting this thread with my incoherent rubbish.

 

[Ex-User (5841)]

The short answer: yes, because synchronicity.

How would this idea account for hand-eye coordination in touching the "physical world"?

Or is this a differrent concept of hologram? Could you explain?

How can you see if eyes do not exist?

Sounds a lot like something someone said a few weeks ago while stoned off their ass, but think about it. Perceptual control theory solves this.

Theoretically the size of the "screen" is directly proportional to the amount of information the "thing" can physically contain. It has to do with spin networks generating the illusion of space .. the nodes and kinks in the spin networks are what create specific relationships that define the difference between events (i.e. spacetime).

The cool aspect of holograms is that any portion of the hologram contains a complete replica of the entire hologram.

How does ^this relate to spin networks & spacetime...? A holographic universe negates spacetime.

Whether I can grasp the concept or not though I agree with the underlying possibility:

"...You find all sorts of mental pictures which do not exist as objective facts. For instance, we see colour and hear sound, but in reality they are oscillations. As a matter of fact, we need a laboratory with very complicated apparatus in order to establish a picture of that world apart from our senses and apart from our psyche, and I suppose it is very much the same with our unconscious..." (pg 7)​

- Carl Jung, Analytical Psychology: Its Theory and Practice

 

[Imaginary Numb3r]

Isn't it scientific consensus that there are more than our 4 dimensions? For some years now, I think that there are multiple dimensions within the same room and that our universe is merely a part of another universe with more dimensions.

Imagine it this way: You have a universe shaped as a balloon (3 dimensional) and on its surface you have live forms crawling around (surface is 2 dimensional). For them, everything's prefectly normal, they don't know that they "lack" a dimension (compared to us).

Remember hearing that our universe keeps expanding? So is the balloon, but those 2D life forms don't see it expanding, they only realize that they need more time to reach the button of the ballon-universe when starting from the top of it.

Oh, and those 2D life froms would like to shorten their ways, they would need to go "through" the balloon (wormhole travel), to reach the other side. Also, their 2 dimensional world does not have a center, where's the center of the ballond? It's INSIDE the ballon, unreachable for the 2D lifeforms (unless they pass it with wormhole travel).

And everything mentioned above is the same with us, only that our surface consists of 3 dimensional space and ballong is actually 4 dimensional (or 5 dimensional, if you add time).


In fact, I think that stuff that seems to follow no "logic", or things we have no clue how to explain (quantum mechanics or dark matter) might be because there is some interaction between the space of our 3 and 4 dimension. And we simply cannot see into this "greater" dimension and it affects us.

I also remember reading about a theory saying that our universe "broke" from a 10 dimensional universe into a 4 and 6 dimensional one.

But that it goes the other way round and that our 3D space is only a reflection of the 2D surface.... hmmm, that's interesting. Gotta keep track how this forms out.

 

[nexion]

Seems about on par with the Brain in a Vat hypothesis and countless other similar ideas throughout history. They are useful thought experiments for demonstrating the potential follies of trusting absolutely in one's senses, and also for illustrating how metaphysical truth can transcend what we perceive as the physical world, but after that, I fail to really see the point and appeal. Regardless of what the "ultimate nature of reality" is, we probably will never know it, as the phenomenological reality is all we have access to, and in all likelihood ever will. So we can manage to make things a little less complicated by scrapping these ideas of actual reality not lining up with how we see it, and merely relativize everything else within the reality that we DO see it. That's a much desirable position for me. I don't really see the need to ever leave the Matrix, not because what is here is inherently better, mind you, but just because, why should I?

 

[Words]

I sort of always had the notion that, everything is holographic in a sense that reality is only what our brains allow us to perceive, processed by a tiny part of our brain through our optic nerves, which are all just electrical signals really.

This makes me think about the different ways one can perceive the assumed physical reality. Ooh! we're like computers. Electrical signals can represent anything, which means that given the right sensory set-up, reality could be experienced in infinite ways. I don't mean in specific ways of viewing in just one organ like with eyeballs; i mean infinitely different organs. Of course, natural selection would dwindle it down to what can directly be useful[and therefore more objective] to survival such as being able to accurately detect gravitational and electromagnetic waves. We're not really seeing the physical objects themselves; we're simply detecting different distributions of electromagnetic radiation in a space-time region. This is if we assume that electrical signals are truly there of course.

But what about the theory that reality and the universe is just a hologram being projected from some (at the this moment unknown) source of data? Does it seem kind of far fetched or does it make sense?

All we know of things related to "data" and "hologram" come from our understanding of this physical reality. They're concepts constrained under the rules we believe to be axiomatic. Anything is possible if we remove these preconceptions.

 

[Cherry Cola]

The short answer: yes, because synchronicity.

How can you see if eyes do not exist?

Sounds a lot like something someone said a few weeks ago while stoned off their ass, but think about it. Perceptual control theory solves this.

The cool aspect of holograms is that any portion of the hologram contains a complete replica of the entire hologram.

How does ^this relate to spin networks & spacetime...? A holographic universe negates spacetime.

I just find myself in opposition because the important thing is the principle, whatever form it takes is arbitrary. Hologram, matrix, multiverse, equation.. meh.

So what is audible depends on the listener, to one listener a thousand nothings become something. To another the nothings are thousand. Hence what is depends on who is. But no who can contain all whats because that would make that who the what. Seems a lot like Russels paradox. So it is that everything must ultimately contain everything for anything to be.

Nothing has substance on its own, everything required a compliment to be explained ad infinitum. Either this repeating duality is the only substance or there is some fundamental flaw in logic which makes it unfit for describing reality. In either case there is position to be assumed on an infinite stretch. Hence holograms or whatever you want to call them are just arbitrary illustrations of one and the same underlying principle.

 

[deadpixel]

They have boiled it down to Mathematics, Mathematics tells them that the universe is a hologram being projected from some source of data. What is interesting though is that they, through this theory, have figured out that information/data is stored on black holes.

Well, since there is a giant black hole in the middle EVERY galaxy, is it not possible that this is where the data is coming from that is projected as a hologram? Every galaxy, including our own, is just a projection of its respected singularity at its center? with everything else being "dark matter"

 

[deadpixel]

This makes me think about the different ways one can perceive the assumed physical reality. Ooh! we're like computers. Electrical signals can represent anything, which means that given the right sensory set-up, reality could be experienced in infinite ways. I don't mean in specific ways of viewing in just one organ like with eyeballs; i mean infinitely different organs. Of course, natural selection would dwindle it down to what can directly be useful[and therefore more objective] to survival such as being able to accurately detect gravitational and electromagnetic waves. We're not really seeing the physical objects themselves; we're simply detecting different distributions of electromagnetic radiation in a space-time region. This is if we assume that electrical signals are truly there of course.


All we know of things related to "data" and "hologram" come from our understanding of this physical reality. They're concepts constrained under the rules we believe to be axiomatic. Anything is possible if we remove these preconceptions.

Also what about the human mind and our thoughts, our consciousness? Our minds certainly are no kind of illusion or hologram. Our thoughts our ultimately the only reason a reality even exists.

Reality is only relevant to someone or something that is making an attempt to observe it. Without someone or something observing reality there would be no reality because reality is only what is observed by the persons observing it, without persons to observe reality there would be no reality.

 

[SpaceYeti]

No.

 

[deadpixel]

No.

Please enlighten me, I'd like to hear how your opinion differs from Stephen hawking and every other physicists out there.

 

[Architect]

What's a hologram?

 

[Cherry Cola]

It's something to express the fact that the universe can only be understood through the lens of something and that particular lens will always effect what the universe appears to be, hence there are some cool lenses that one can come up with, like the hologram lens. Not that it is any better than the multiverse lens, the matrix/computer simulation lens, mathematical equation lens, christian god lens or whichever you prefer. Not in absolute sense anyway, though admittedly the hologram lens does attempt to tackle issues so I guess that among lenses it is one of those which has the potential to improve upon our field of vision. Sort of like the multiverse lens, unlike the christian God lens.

 

[Architect]

I think this is a variation of Plato's Allegory of the Cave.

 

[deadpixel]

I think this is a variation of Plato's Allegory of the Cave.

That's a pretty good analogy, how it is able to actually materialize into matter though is beyond any level of human comprehension.

 

[deadpixel]

We know that when something is thrown into a black hole it doesn't disappear but rather a copy of it is stored onto the surface of the black hole and this information can then be used to re-create the image. Physicists figure that this is how the entire universe works, its all just a holographic image being projected from data stored somewhere, they don't know where the data is coming from though.

If you ask me, with the knowledge that black holes have the ability to store data and project images, and the fact that there is a giant black hole in the middle of every galaxy. This leads me to believe that every galaxy and everything within that galaxy is a projection of the black hole relative to the center of its own respective galaxy.

 

[Cherry Cola]

Yeah if you let the hologram be the true form. You got ya the same naive presupposition that there is this one particular true state of things permeating the minds of the people who come up with these sorts of ideas nowadays and the mind of Plato. Though in his case it more a case of genius than naivety given the circumstances, even though he didn't seem to realize the recursive issue.

 

[deadpixel]

Yeah if you let the hologram be the true form. You got ya the same naive presupposition that there is this one particular true state of things permeating the minds of the people who come up with these sorts of ideas nowadays and the mind of Plato. Though in his case it more a case of genius than naivety given the circumstances, even though he didn't seem to realize the recursive issue.

I am naive because I don't know anything about physics, the best I can do is try to understand the dumbed down versions of the theories I read and learn about. I do realize though that whatever the truth may be is probably way more than what our 5 senses are able to perceive.

What we are able to perceive, compared to what is actually out there, in reality could actually be more equivalent to how a single celled organism is able to experience the world.

I imagine that what reality actually might be more like is probably similar to a DMT(N,N-Dimethyltryptamine) experience. I personally have never tripped on DMT before but people who have report that its "realer than reality", "being everywhere at once", "being in a multi-dimensional holographic universe".

 

[Cherry Cola]

I should read up on this a bit more first though, I didn't mean to call you naive but I realize I did in effect lol. Feel free to ignore that. I'm bundling this holo-thing with other ideas which are similar in that they cannot be proven or disproven and attempt to solve the same issue principally speaking.

I probably don't know any more physics than you do.

 

[deadpixel]

I should read up on this a bit more first though, I didn't mean to call you naive but I realize I did in effect lol. Feel free to ignore that. I'm bundling this holo-thing with other ideas which are similar in that they cannot be proven or disproven and attempt to solve the same issue principally speaking.

I probably don't know any more physics than you do.

Have you ever heard of DMT(The spirit molecule)? I assume that you have based on other posts that you've made, DMT is not actually even a drug really, its naturally occurring. You should read about peoples DMT experiences in relation to the possibility of what reality is, it sounds pretty mindblowing.

 

[SpaceYeti]

Please enlighten me, I'd like to hear how your opinion differs from Stephen hawking and every other physicists out there.

Because it doesn't. Reality, by definition, is not a hallucination. A hallucination is something you see, yet is not there.

 

[deadpixel]

Because it doesn't. Reality, by definition, is not a hallucination. A hallucination is something you see, yet is not there.

I didnt mean that physicists were saying that everything is a hallucination but rather everything is holographic in nature, a multi-dimensional universe painted from information stored somewhere. And that is our reality.

 

[SpaceYeti]

What information? Define "information".

 

[Cherry Cola]

Yes I know about DMT, I have some amount of experience with psychedelics but I have not tried DMT, I would like to try that and also salvia someday when my life is in a better state :P

Something psychedelics do is show you in a pretty straightforward way that the way you experience reality really isn't set in stone. I mean it's one thing to read about reality being this and that another to see feel and see it change. Not being in the best of mental states or doing so good in life while puts you at a large risk for ending up in a pretty bad place though, and that's not very pleasant when you're mind is so overloaded that you forget things are gonna go back to normal or that there is a normal. So I wouldn't take dabbling with that stuff lightly in the least. Hell I forgot I had a family and had some kind of epiphany coming down and remembering them as if for the first time.

 

[Pizzabeak]

Have you ever heard of DMT(The spirit molecule)? I assume that you have based on other posts that you've made, DMT is not actually even a drug really, its naturally occurring. You should read about peoples DMT experiences in relation to the possibility of what reality is, it sounds pretty mindblowing.

A lot of things aren't even "drugs", pretty sure there are a few naturally occurring substances that are scheduled still

Sure, it's apparently endogenous but can be ingested/administered and have effects, practically a drug under collective definitions. What, marijuana isn't a drug it's a medicinal? Smoking weed or getting stoned is referred to as 'medicating' for political purposes..


The point is, it shouldn't be illegal or taboo since it can apparently be found in nature, let alone the human body. It is though for difficulty in establishing a, shall we say, objective therapeutic use for it. Not sure, but there might be different effects between something like endo & exo serotonin.

Plus dosages. You typically only get in trouble with the law for possessing large quantities of weed, due to intent to sell. A point of dmt doesn't take up much space, but it might be a lot more than what the body makes in a given time, maybe in a given area. I'm not sure what the most up to date information on endogenous dmt production is.

 

[deadpixel]

What information? Define "information".

Information being the stuff that you and I are made of, information is everything that exists. It is all stored somewhere and projected as holograms made out of matter, sounds crazy I know, thats because it IS crazy.

Not that long ago people believed that the earth was flat, when it was proposed that it was actually round people thought it was rubbish. If the earth were round then how come the people on the other side of it dont fall off?

 

[deadpixel]

Yes I know about DMT, I have some amount of experience with psychedelics but I have not tried DMT, I would like to try that and also salvia someday when my life is in a better state :P

Something psychedelics do is show you in a pretty straightforward way that the way you experience reality really isn't set in stone. I mean it's one thing to read about reality being this and that another to see feel and see it change. Not being in the best of mental states or doing so good in life while puts you at a large risk for ending up in a pretty bad place though, and that's not very pleasant when you're mind is so overloaded that you forget things are gonna go back to normal or that there is a normal. So I wouldn't take dabbling with that stuff lightly in the least. Hell I forgot I had a family and had some kind of epiphany coming down and remembering them as if for the first time.

DMT is unlike anything else out there, when ingested, your consciousness actually leaves your body and takes you into a completely different multidimensional universe. Unlike LSD or other psychedelics that only manipulate our perception of the physical world.

 

[SpaceYeti]

Information being the stuff that you and I are made of, information is everything that exists. It is all stored somewhere and projected as holograms made out of matter...

Yes, information of the kind you mention exists. I call it "matter", though the "projection" part doesn't make sense. What gets projected, and from where?

 

[deadpixel]

Yes, information of the kind you mention exists. I call it "matter", though the "projection" part doesn't make sense. What gets projected, and from where?

Physicists are describing matter now as information, sort of like how a jpg image is made up of a bunch of code. They are proposing that MATTER is literally somehow being PROJECTED from somewhere else that its being stored, they do not know where right now. It sounds completely fucking insane, but so did the earth being round not that long ago.

If you want a more IN DEPTH description, watch this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsbZT9bJ1s4

We know that when something is thrown into a black hole it doesn't disappear but rather a copy of it is stored onto the surface of the black hole and this information can then be used to re-create the image. Physicists figure that this is how the entire universe works, its all just a holographic image being projected from data stored somewhere, they don't know where the data is coming from though.

If you ask me, with the knowledge that black holes have the ability to store data and project images, and the fact that there is a giant black hole in the middle of every galaxy. This leads me to believe that every galaxy and everything within that galaxy is a projection of the black hole relative to the center of its own respective galaxy.

 

[Ex-User (5841)]

I just find myself in opposition because the important thing is the principle, whatever form it takes is arbitrary. Hologram, matrix, multiverse, equation.. meh.

So what is audible depends on the listener, to one listener a thousand nothings become something. To another the nothings are thousand. Hence what is depends on who is. But no who can contain all whats because that would make that who the what. Seems a lot like Russels paradox. So it is that everything must ultimately contain everything for anything to be.

Nothing has substance on its own, everything required a compliment to be explained ad infinitum. Either this repeating duality is the only substance or there is some fundamental flaw in logic which makes it unfit for describing reality. In either case there is position to be assumed on an infinite stretch. Hence holograms or whatever you want to call them are just arbitrary illustrations of one and the same underlying principle.

The cool thing about the hologram is that it is the principle, via its properties & synchronicity. It exists with properties x, y, z that shouldn't be.

How can a who know if they contain all whats if they can't experience the vast majority of the whats, since the difference between a who and a what is determined by perception (which is based on difference as opposed to similarity) only? What if each who is a what in a who?

(So yeah, I agree Though I like the barber paradox better because it's solved by redefining boundaries by expanding agency...)

Our conscious existence occurs on the thin border between the container and the contained.

DMT is unlike anything else out there, when ingested, your consciousness actually leaves your body and takes you into a completely different multidimensional universe. Unlike LSD or other psychedelics that only manipulate our perception of the physical world.

Subjective experience, man. You don't even need the DMT (not that I would ever not condone the use of DMT), just go to sleep.

Not that long ago people believed that the earth was flat, when it was proposed that it was actually round people thought it was rubbish. If the earth were round then how come the people on the other side of it dont fall off?

Ironically, the overwhelming consensus in the scientific community is that the universe is also flat.

Hell I forgot I had a family and had some kind of epiphany coming down and remembering them as if for the first time.

Spoiler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xlMnrd54V8

 

[Base groove]

Physicists are describing matter now as information, sort of like how a jpg image is made up of a bunch of code. They are proposing that MATTER is literally somehow being PROJECTED from somewhere else that its being stored, they do not know where right now. It sounds completely fucking insane, but so did the earth being round not that long ago.

If you want a more IN DEPTH description, watch this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsbZT9bJ1s4

We know that when something is thrown into a black hole it doesn't disappear but rather a copy of it is stored onto the surface of the black hole and this information can then be used to re-create the image. Physicists figure that this is how the entire universe works, its all just a holographic image being projected from data stored somewhere, they don't know where the data is coming from though.

If you ask me, with the knowledge that black holes have the ability to store data and project images, and the fact that there is a giant black hole in the middle of every galaxy. This leads me to believe that every galaxy and everything within that galaxy is a projection of the black hole relative to the center of its own respective galaxy.

This is a great post and a great reply to Yeti's question, and for the most part I believe it's a fairly accurate interpretation of the phenomena you're discussing. Well done soldier.

 

[deadpixel]

This is a great post and a great reply to Yeti's question, and for the most part I believe it's a fairly accurate interpretation of the phenomena you're discussing. Well done soldier.

Thanks

New evidence also shows that deep within atoms lays binary code of 1's and 0's, which could mean that everything is just a bunch of code. Maybe we are artificial intelligence and the universe is some kind of computer? I dont want to go sounding too crazy.

 

[Pizzabeak]

I imagine that what reality actually might be more like is probably similar to a DMT(N,N-Dimethyltryptamine) experience. I personally have never tripped on DMT before but people who have report that its "realer than reality", "being everywhere at once", "being in a multi-dimensional holographic universe".

Subjective experience, man. You don't even need the DMT (not that I would ever not condone the use of DMT), just go to sleep.

What would be the significance, not that people only look into things they know have practical applications. If you went there would it make sense to want to be there in some form all the time? Not sure if it's homesickness that people report but one of the "lessons" people bring back is to participate in life, which is a sentiment gained from experiencing the trip or they're told by inhabitants there, whether it's a practical hallucination or whether there are actual extraterrestrials who communicate in such a fashion.. A lot of the times (i guess) they say, 'do this, do this!' and it seems like good advice but if this isn't all there is to it people will think we're being manipulated by something we can't see, unless you do dmt. Some people go so far as to say humans were generated by aliens to harvest gold for them...

It being implied we're being observed... Either they don't want us to know or they anticipate arrival. If this is a type of programmed simulation that opens up a new set of questions. The idea doesn't sound so new but I guess some evidence is. I would ask what they're harvesting, considering they seem to stress in good will participating in a stimulating life. Could be hokey but what else is one to do. If your video game character started glitching it could be abnormal.

Apparently at least a number of people in the community agree that they (the elves) like to pull strings... Seems related to something like karma or some other invisible phenomena, some consequence or luck maybe.

The method of ingestion could be interesting as well. Supposedly intravenous is ideal. Another method is mixing it in powder form with a bowl of weed, so you'll be partially stoned while all that is going on if that makes a difference in interpretation. After the exogenous dmt is metabolized it's reported it can be felt poofing away, and then you're just stoned. You can feel the particular sensation dmt gives but when it's gone, since it was ingested with weed and dmt lasts 10-20 minutes, you can still feel being stoned.. You have to wait for the weed to be done before feeling completely normal.

There are a few different things like this
http://www.pikpuk.org/

I'm just guessing, but you tell something to do something and it does it, so sure I suppose it would be difficult to 'prove' something of such magnitude. I still can't get over some of the traditions we have and abide by although some may make sense are probably more energy conserving. "Even if heads be weak the problem still persists"

 

[deadpixel]

What would be the significance, not that people only look into things they know have practical applications. If you went there would it make sense to want to be there in some form all the time? Not sure if it's homesickness that people report but one of the "lessons" people bring back is to participate in life, which is a sentiment gained from experiencing the trip or they're told by inhabitants there, whether it's a practical hallucination or whether there are actual extraterrestrials who communicate in such a fashion.. A lot of the times (i guess) they say, 'do this, do this!' and it seems like good advice but if this isn't all there is to it people will think we're being manipulated by something we can't see, unless you do dmt. Some people go so far as to say humans were generated by aliens to harvest gold for them...

It being implied we're being observed... Either they don't want us to know or they anticipate arrival. If this is a type of programmed simulation that opens up a new set of questions. The idea doesn't sound so new but I guess some evidence is. I would ask what they're harvesting, considering they seem to stress in good will participating in a stimulating life. Could be hokey but what else is one to do. If your video game character started glitching it could be abnormal.

Apparently at least a number of people in the community agree that they (the elves) like to pull strings... Seems related to something like karma or some other invisible phenomena, some consequence or luck maybe.

The method of ingestion could be interesting as well. Supposedly intravenous is ideal. Another method is mixing it in powder form with a bowl of weed, so you'll be partially stoned while all that is going on if that makes a difference in interpretation. After the exogenous dmt is metabolized it's reported it can be felt poofing away, and then you're just stoned. You can feel the particular sensation dmt gives but when it's gone, since it was ingested with weed and dmt lasts 10-20 minutes, you can still feel being stoned.. You have to wait for the weed to be done before feeling completely normal.

There are a few different things like this
http://www.pikpuk.org/

I'm just guessing, but you tell something to do something and it does it, so sure I suppose it would be difficult to 'prove' something of such magnitude. I still can't get over some of the traditions we have and abide by although some may make sense are probably more energy conserving. "Even if heads be weak the problem still persists"

Pretty interesting read, Assuming that the holographic theory is correct this would mean that we are all data, even our consciousness, all part of a supercomputer. If this is the case then it could be that maybe DMT is a kind of "red pill" or hack that will allow the user to go "off the grid" so to speak. Honestly, thats what it sounds like it does.