is everything true?

[gladness]

What is truth? truth is beleif, a construct of the human brain. its completely personal.
science likes to describe a truth that is independent of our comprehending
science is describing reality, reality is the only universal truth
the exisence of reality is proved by the ability to try and disprove it.

but reality is an illusion, it changes depending on how we view it. we are limited by our instrument, meaning that our perception is a reflection of our internal beliefs and ideologies.

Truth=Reality
Reality=Truth

Reality=illusion
Truth=Illusion?

is everyone correct? are we all viewing the same thing from different angles?
let me know what you beautiful minds have to say about this.

 

[Rook]

Reality itself is uncertain.

To search for ultimate truth is futile as a single subjective being, so instead we search for approximations based on the data available to us.
Concurrent generations of seekers add to the approximations, shedding light on the details of our existence.

This is called science.

To know the ultimate truth, to be sure of the nature of reality, one must be all of existence, whatever form it may take.
I don't see how human beings can achieve such a feat.

So in the end, our ignorance is eternal.
The light we cast may grow brighter, but the darkness seems to be infinite.

In short: I am certain about nothing.

 

[Reluctantly]

Objective reality can have truths verified with the scientific method. The only problem is these truths require reality to have either unchanging features or at least features that change so slowly as to make them seem inherent to reality when they aren't...exactly.

Past that, I believe there is something beyond wisdom in realizing how opposites are the same thing; this something perhaps superseds ideas of truth, but maybe that's a good thing. A basic example - you can't have light, without dark. This takes thought past polarized thinking into holistic thinking. It would imply an intellectual foundation that seeks to eliminate ignorance.

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

It goes like this:
Reality is a set of everything.
Truth is a subset of reality that aligns with your personal comprehension.
Illusion is a subset of reality that is either incomprehensible or otherwise isn't viewed as true.

Simply put, binary logic and language, both being subsets emergent from the whole reality, fall short of describing it, which is only expected since they aren't reality itself.

Therefore, statements of truth/false and assigning such values to reality isn't always possible, or comprehensible to the individual. In fact, reality allows for contradicting/paradoxical states of true and false coexisting.

 

[DrSketchpad]

In fact, reality allows for contradicting/paradoxical states of true and false coexisting.

Could this be expanded upon? My puny mind is having trouble finding a possible hypothetical that aligns with this.

 

[Analyzer]

Truth is dependent on some ontological system.

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

Could this be expanded upon? My puny mind is having trouble finding a possible hypothetical that aligns with this.

Basically, many angles, including physics, human perception, phase probability spaces of the universe and whatever other perspective you take, can function and deal with contradictions, without having always to resort to reducing abstraction.

Reality needn't be defined with every existing or perceived quality.
You can define reality without time, or without space, etc.

True and false takes a fragment of reality and creates a polarity. This polarity is in fact a manifested spectrum from 0 to 1 with everything in between when considered out of specific context.

Quantum superposition,
Poincare Recurrence Theorem,

 

[DrSketchpad]

Most interesting. I'll read up on these. Thanks for divulging.

 

[AbstractCanvas]

pretty much. the "truth" doesn't actually mean anything. knowledge is separate from understanding and things don't necessarily have to make sense for them to be "true". you can also use this idea to argue that nothing exists or will ever exist as well as attack your own conceptualization/perception of reality. therefore it's equally valid to say that you don't know what you're talking about . this is an idea based within the concept of duality.

 

[Anktark]

There is no truth. We made it up, together with all other abstractions. Humans are great abstraction machines- we ignore huge amounts of information, process less and are aware of less again. Even now, we are communicating through at least four layers of abstraction. We are relatively blind, deaf and unaware. We are like a metal spoon that is unaware of it's own properties, much less the surface it's laying on or the kitchen around it. The ignorance doesn't prevent the spoon or us from being.

However, as much as we try to discover the truth, we are also creating it.

Rook above said you would have to become all of existence to understand the truth. I don't think it would be enough. You would be close, but still in need of a little more to process that thought. Whoa, wait, maybe THAT's why universe is expanding at an increasing rate? Someone/thing is doing just that!..



P.S. Funnily enough, I thought about ignorance and Wednesday morning sneaked up on me. It could have been a tiger instead. Lesson of the day- learn witch parts of reality to ignore and which not or you will become someone's breakfast.

 

[J-man]

It's all true. One day everything I have will be yours. But not the curtains.

 

[Perfectly Normal Beast]

i am truth

 

[J-man]

i am truth

Nuh uh! I'm truth.

 

[Black Rose]

i am truth

if i could?

 

[Perfectly Normal Beast]

Nuh uh! I'm truth.

no, me.

if i could?

true.

 

[gilliatt]

An old fable in Russian:"A pig comes upon an oak tree, devours the acorns strewn on the ground and, when his belly is full, starts digging the soil to undercut the oak tree's roots. A bird perched on a high branch upbraids him, saying: ""If you could lift your snoot, you would discover that the acorns grow on this tree.""
The little bird understands the truth, the pig, not very intellectual. The tree produces the acorns, that is the truth. We have to identify the nature of things, objective reality and be honest. Truth lis the recognition of reality, it perceives the real, gains knowledge and logic by using reason, common sense rationality. Theory of truth: it is true in every case, never untrue and true at the same time. Law of Identity-A is A, it is logic, no further debate is possible.

 

[Doktorin Zylinder]

The world is illusory; Brahman alone is real; Brahman is the world. – Ramana Maharshi

All is true, yet none is true. I'm of the school of truth being paradoxical.