Intuition taking over thinking

[Ponderer]

During the past year I read a lot of books. All I did was work and read, work and read. I read everything that interested me. Actually it was maybe only 20 books that I managed to read during 6 months. However, the more I read the more I find out, the more knowledge and "ideas" I got. Until came a point, that that was enough. I finally think I know enough. I'm confident to say I know absolutely everything (I might be wrong) in a sense that I see the big picture about every subject that I have ever found slightest bit interesting. However I have no interest in little details about each subject, I feel happy that I know the idea, principle of each subject, I see the structure how it works, the pattern. I don't care about exact years or actions, or names of particular events. It doesn't matter, because I know how the subject is structured.

Now has come the point where I don't find it interesting anymore to sit home and just research something, obtaining information by reading pages on internet or watching documentaries. It doesn't stimulate me anymore, I find it boring, because I already "know" all that I need to know. I feel that I know enough to be able to emerge in life.

I want to go outside and do something. Learning something new, maybe do networking. Just go outside and explore. I used to think every minute when I was walking around the city. Now I don't think anymore, what's the point. I just look around, look for opportunities. What can I do? I want to accomplish something, I want to jump into something unexpected, experiment with myself and environment. What can happen, how can I find some new opportunities, new ways of life.

I used to love sitting at home and reading something, but now it sucks, I want to stay home as less as possible. But the problem is, I can't find anything interesting outside neither. For past 2 weeks I;ve been experimenting, visiting sport clubs, some kind of social events. But to be honest, nothing changed, I didn;t like those sports, events were interesting, but not mind blowing. Now I;m stuck, I don't know what the hell to do next/ I've been searching for upcoming events in my city, but during holidays its nothing, and I feel really empty. It will be boring holidays I guess.

The problem is, I want to find some kind of society, a network of people, where really big, important stuff is being done. Something really big, but I don't know what the hell it is. But I'm sick of sitting and theorizing, I want to go outside and do something, find where I can accomplish something, find meaning of life.

Anyone else experienced transition like this?

 

[Architect]

That's Ti, not Ne. You're trying to forumlate a theory - of the world, yourself, who knows? Anyhow it's using Ne in a sense to gather all the information (or maybe better Ne, like a puppy dog on a leash, is happy to do so). Anyhow, all that activity is thinking and conceptual framework building.

Otherwise as to where you are, that is typical. Note either you really have gotten everything you need, or more likely you're fooling yourself into having enough. Or possibly you've lost interest. Typically Ti/Ne, once it has an essential grasp, thinks its done and walks away. Of course it's not done, just enough to understand a subject, but not use or master it.

In INTP's Ne, when used by itself, is the classical brainstorming activity.

 

[Artsu Tharaz]

Your OP strikes me as INTJ-ish. You want to further explore your weaker functions?

 

[Turnevies]

Maybe good idea to go on a holiday, to the woods for some lonely hiking while putting things together.
How's life career-wise and love-wise btw? Those are obviously two fronts where aiming your energy at is usually beneficial.

You could do some random volunteering for a local NGO. Not much prestige in that, but at least a way to be among people, and getting some feeling of purpuse. Your description of an organisation seems to lean on a service club or Mensa or even the Freemasonry. But I'm a bit skeptical such an organisation will make you feel satisfied.

 

[QuickTwist]

You need an interesting hobby. I say that because I hear you that you want to do something really big, but a lot of the time that is just the mind playing tricks on you and what you actually need is something similar, but just a lot smaller in scale. You clearly have yet to find "your thing" and that is only going to come through living a little. It sounds like you could actually be ISTP who has spent too much time cooped up in the house and you just need to get out there and do shit.

There are two approaches that you can try simultaneously if you want. The firs would be doing something completely contrary to what you would normally do. IDK like lifting weights or something. Train for crossfit or something like that. It could be anything really. Dancing, rock climbing, recreational sports. Just something active to get your body moving and to release endorphins in your blood stream. The second option is to find a more intellectual type of hobby. Something like learning CAD or learning programming or starting a business or something like that. Something that will get your brain to have to stress itself before a solution comes to you. Lastly, you can try and combine both of these and see how that fairs you. Try something like building a robot or picking up carpentry or welding or something. Oh, also art. you might want to look into doing something creative where you can express yourself uniquely like painting or sculpture or something like that.

That's my advice anyways, best of luck.

 

[manishboy]

In my late teens and twenties I went through a cycle where in the fall I would become introspective and seek out books and theoretical learning and in the spring I would grow disenchanted with learning and seek excitement in the form of creative projects and more extraverted behavior (meeting people and the like). I thought it was some sort of spring fever. Typically it would involve trying to create a business or write a book, but once involved trying out a sales job. So I recognize your pattern.

But this is different:

The problem is, I want to find some kind of society, a network of people, where really big, important stuff is being done

There is a lot in this statement about how you see yourself in relation to society. And it you may have a simplistic idea about how important stuff gets done. Places where important stuff is being done generally don't lack for capable, calibrated entrants. What they do lack is people who are working on or have worked on important stuff of their own. Finding what stuff is important to you will pay off in many ways. Looking in from outside on a party that may not even be happening will not. So use your new found energy to go do what you want to do.

 

[Ponderer]

I dont know but something changed in the way i perceive the world. All this reading and stuff. I started to think whats the point. I was really thinking about point of life, how can live the life most fully and efficiently. Through books i found out a lot of answers. I understood a lot of things.

Life is about doing, self improvement. We spend our lifes studying, working, learning. As you see we are always in the process of achieving something. We all strive for goals, accomplish them and forget about them. And look for new goals.

I see this loop of life most people just do unconciously. So i startes to think whats the point of it all. I was never serious about life, external pressures etc. But this realization just pushed me deeper in unseriousness. If we look at the big picture we are all just like ants working all day and sleeping, difference is intellect which maybe slightly magnifies the amplitude of day to day goals and problems, but the big picture doesnt change.

So i came to think, if we are all ants, i might as well enjoy it with a grain of unseriousness and self amusement. At the same time it could be a chance for further self improvement and gaining of external knowledge, to widen the angle of how i see life.

Ive learned to use my extraverted side and i really enjoy it. I always valued privacy but i realized social skills are great for protecting privacy. You can say literally what ever you want, but if you say it whit a smile on your face nobody is taking you seriously and its forgotten moments later. I have discovered i have quite charming personality if i use my extraverted side. I kind of learned how switch between introversion and extravertion and this switch has brought me many new ideas and knowledge about the world. Now is the stage where i want to explore my extraverted side and see what happens.

 

[Cclarktampa]

Exactly ponderer. I'm 100% INTP and am Right where you're at. I have an INTJ giving me ideas and talking about connecting the world. Mark Zuckerburg is trying to connect the world. I've been researching how communities affect people.
Perhaps a few of us INTP with slightly stronger extravert/communication skills could create organization among all INTPs. We could organize and provide input towards solutions.
I have been watching Goalcast and studying personalities. I know success is within all of our grasps. We can help each other find success sooner in our lives. Once we have organized and come together with INTJ, INFJ, ENTP, ect we can make a powerful, positive difference in the world.

 

[Grayman]

Don't you have any projects, experiments, or ideas you can put to the test? Your mind sounds like a box whoes only function is to put things in. Why not take the legos out of the box and make something?

 

[Cclarktampa]

I am trying to take the legos out of the box. I want to help create something lasting. I want to be a part of bringing the world together.
Ever since I had my daughter, almost two years ago, I have been working on my weak Fe trait. I have become better with social situations, and I truly find myself wanting better for the world. Earth needs caring parasites to continue being our host.
Every bit of positive energy you emit (Tested and true, even simple pleasantries go a long way, even though we are definitely not always thinking what we are saying) goes a long way by rippling from person to person.
More than that, I've been analyzing and having discussions with a brilliant INTJ about connecting the world. We have a good starting point for bringing brilliant minds together on the world's problems within forums such as this. If the true thinkers of our societies came together, we could collaborate to the finest details. We have the tools necessary to do this. We have the power to organize groups and collaborate within minutes. The tools of researching anywhere/anytime. Researching ourselves and how to build upon our weaknesses so we can share to others. We are far more capable of impacting the world positively, when we can impact ourselves positively. Posting on facebook positive/inspirational finds was a small step. Posting on here is my first real action taken towards some sort of progress at my goals (which I hope are admirable/challenging enough that others will come together on similar goals/reasonings.)
I'll end here for a breather. I accidently hit back and had to retype all of this. Structured, worded, and some points were reinterpreted. The overall objective was conveyed still, because this is something I have been analyzing for a while now. Thoughts, opinions, ect welcomed
Thanks for your time reading.

 

[Grayman]

Its great that you want to do this. Whats the first step? What is your primary skillset? What is the greatest priority? What interests you more? Gotta norrow the scope so that a path can be drawn or we'll get lost in the woods.

 

[TheManBeyond]

i have to work with what i have, what do you have?, what are you good at?, what do you know?, what do you see that others don't? take people around you and share it, teach them, or just make them enjoy it. as you say Facebook can be a good tool to post interesting founds or joining comunities, or like you do in this fórum playing the fake guru. if you are into photography or arts overall, Instagram is perfect.

the negative energy i recieve from the world, my frustrations, dissapointings, pain for not sleeping i try to translate them into something that makes me feel good and might be enjoyable for people, through art, cuz that's what i can do fairly well so there's a lot of room for improvement. I try to participate in local contests, share my stuff with people who promote underground movement. I try to make contacts in the field. i cannot dream about working for the next bloodborne game, but watching them work is inspiring.

recently since i cannot sleep i made this little video, that turned out so cool in my view that i'll keep working on it to fit the 3 minutes long song

https://www.youtube .com/watch?v=80Yl4wLQtG4

sadly i'm not good at maths, i don't know programming and i don't know that many people or have the money to start some Enterprise or some big scale project, but i know how to write a song and make digital art. some cool some not so much. but it's a challenge, to keep improving, always. I do have some Friends with whom i collaborate for small expositions here and there, for stuff really different to scandinavian minimalism.

Don't read this part if you are not interested in my own demons (GIRLS)

i had a girl who got angry with me and said your art and music are not so good, your house is shitty, you are ugly. I said to her, ok, what do you have besides beautiness? and why are u with me? she said: a critical mind so i know my own limits. Touchy. And there are no limits for people born with the gift of touching hearts.
it's kind of easy to tell yourself, these are my limits. so you will never feel bad about failing, there's no reason to learn anything, there's no reason to try anything.
to this day i still think of her sometimes and when i fail i wonder if she was right.
but to give up would mean to die without accomplishing my goal: to have a reason to die for. she likes art a lot, and she was always dating art people and going to galleries but she thought she sucked at arts.
but she didn't realize she played a big role on it: the muse.
HAHAHAH
i miss that girl.

 

[Cclarktampa]

To be honest, it would be hard to elaborate fully. This task can't be done/thought by any individual. We must come together using our strengths. I have been tempering my mind/emotions to playing poker as a source of income. I live in an area where there are a great number of fish, but there are also many intelligent minds to bounce ideas with. Poker will be a means to an end to fund building/investing my knowledge as I learn better going through a structured educational system while also doing my own learning. One without the other makes it more difficult for me to learn, so I need more institutionalized education. Once I obtain this, I will be using my (potentially) 60-100k a year 2-5nl income to invest/help create a non profit organization.
I am not a fake guru, as I am by no means any sort of guru. I see the patterns shifting towards a better understood/unified world where we can move away from social atrocities founded on fear and lack of understanding (extreme racism, religion, 1%'s power hold over society, ect). The world can be educated. The 1% and religious leaders using their teachings towards their own power/greed has a large portion of the world population brain washed. (I am biased, but I believe Americans have been brain washed in more dangerous-to-society ways.)
Expressing my ideas little by little as I think of them to your responses. Keep it going. I need people that ask questions helping oil the cogs in my overactive mind.

 

[Cclarktampa]

I've only been learning about Myer Briggs for the past three months, but I feel as though we are going to get lost in a Jungle if we're only collaborating with other INTPs Grayman. We need other personality types to help motivate and sift the gold from our minds/passages and dust off the rest.
The first step would be to find someone with the time and passion for leading, bring those of us together that want to come along on this, we get to know each other better, strengths weaknesses ect. We convince other personality groups to organize in a similar (some will do it better and we can work together to improve our communities' ability to commune) way... Ultimately organizing the world and getting to know each other. Starting with like minds then branching out. Helping each other along the way. Life has many hurdles and many of us may be stubborn and face them alone, but we could advance so much quicker with help. With everyone helping, there will be less incentive to try to take advantage of individuals for small personal gains. Is anyone kind of getting the direction I'm going?

 

[Haim]

It is not the 1% , it is the system, it is the people, the 1% are just a small part of the system.
Game development let me use my knowledge and keep having thing to learn,I also have the same feelings, not fact as there are many things to learn.

 

[washti]

[mention]Cclarktampa[/mention] why you copy paste?

 

[Cclarktampa]

They seemed to make sense in their own context. I felt like I was stealing too much attention from ponderer's topic... Still am. Sorry.