Introverted directness perceived as rudeness

[EmergingAlbert]

I was going through the drive-thru with my girlfriend the other night. Here's a summary of how the conversation went...

Drive-thru guy: Welcome to Taco Bell. How are you doing tonight?
Me: Hold on a minute.
Drive-thru guy: Okay, take your time.
Me (to girlfriend, as she attempts to make conversation with the drive-thru operator): What do you want again?
Girlfriend (to me): Two soft burritos.
Me: Soft burritos? What do you mean? There's lots of different burritos here, what kind?
Girlfriend (slightly irritated): I said two soft burritos.
Me: There is no such thing as a "soft burrito." What kind of burrito do you want?
Girlfriend: There's a guy waiting behind us. Hurry up and just order. You're being rude.
Me: Well, you have to tell me what you want first.
Girlfriend: I don't care! Just order your food...I'm not hungry!
Me: Are you sure? You're the one who wanted to come here because you were hungry.
Girlfriend: JUST ORDER! YOU'RE MAKING THE GUY BEHIND YOU WAIT AND SLOWING DOWN TRAFFIC!

Flustered, I finally ordered my meal.

Drive-thru guy: Will that be all for you?
Me: Yep.

He told me my price and to drive around.

Girlfriend (to drive-thru guy, as I was pulling forward): Thank you!
Girlfriend (to drive-thru guy, after I've pulled up to the window): How have you been doing tonight?
Drive-thru guy (as he's handing us our food): I've been doing okay.
Girlfriend (as I'm about to pull off): Thank you so much! Have a good night!

After driving off, she commenced to lecture me about how rude I am, how I should have responded to him when he asked how I was doing (I owned up to not answering his question, but I also explained how I honestly didn't hear him ask that, and she responded that I interrupted him when I asked him to hold on), how I should have thanked him after he took my order and after he gave me my food, how I shouldn't have taken so long to order, how bad fast food employees have it, etc.

Then she made me take her to another Taco Bell, even though she apparently "wasn't hungry" anymore.

I don't see how not bowing down to the fast food guy, kissing his feet, and telling him how incredibly grateful I was for giving me my food is "rude." I didn't cuss him out or tell him the food sucks. I didn't demand special treatment. If I did, THAT would be rude. He was just doing his job. Why should he get special treatment? She said that if I were nicer to him, he might have done something nice for me and go the extra mile (e.g., putting taco sauce in the bag). I said that I didn't expect him to go the extra mile...he gave me exactly what I wanted: my order. "Well, you should expect him to!" she said.

Does anyone else find my interaction (or lack thereof) with the drive-thru operator to have been rude, at least from what I described? I know I wasn't going out of my way to be especially polite, but I don't think it was necessary to do so.

 

[Meer]

I would be pickier with romantic partners, if I were you.

 

[Reluctantly]

Lol, you had to go to another Taco Bell. Was she worth it?

 

[xbox]

Run as far away as you can. For many reasons.

 

[mke2686]

I agree with the previous posts.

 

[EmergingAlbert]

Lol, you had to go to another Taco Bell. Was she worth it?

Yes.

 

[Crazythinker1]

Meh, you were polite enough.

 

[EmergingAlbert]

Sounds like everybody agrees with me. Most people here are INTP's too though...

 

[Ploss]

You're girlfriend sounds scary, I'd run and hide.

 

[EmergingAlbert]

You're girlfriend sounds scary, I'd run and hide.

She can be scary sometimes...especially when she's PMS-ey (which I think she was in this instance). I love her though.

 

[Blue Dream]

You were in no way, shape, or form rude. When I interact with fast food employees, I simply say as little as I can. I tell them my order, and I say thank you when they hand me my food. That's it. When I walk away, the employee has already moved on to other things in their job. I don't leave any lasting impression, and I certainly don't go out of my way to do anything that would leave one (like being rude, mean, or douche-like.. you know what I mean here).

Your girlfriend simply has her own view of what she sees as polite, and will become irritable and fake appetite loss if you don't conform to what she believes to be the only way to be polite.

Run.

 

[EmergingAlbert]

You were in no way, shape, or form rude. When I interact with fast food employees, I simply say as little as I can. I tell them my order, and I say thank you when they hand me my food.

I don't even say thank you when they hand me my food. Do you think that's rude?

 

[Blue Dream]

I don't even say thank you when they hand me my food. Do you think that's rude?

No. Just because you don't feel the need to thank someone for doing their job doesn't make you rude. It's not like you they're completing a personal favor for you; they work there, they're getting paid to give you your food. The only reason I say thank you is because I was raised that way so it kinda stuck and because I personally feel awkward walking away without saying anything.

 

[terraxceles]

You were not rude at all. I think it's bullshit when strangers ask me how I'm doing. Seriously? Do you even care?

 

[Blue Dream]

Don't you just love our social norms

 

[EmergingAlbert]

I think it's bullshit when strangers ask me how I'm doing. Seriously? Do you even care?

I couldn't possibly agree more. I never ask someone who they're doing unless I truly want to know, and I wish others paid me the same respect.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Difference in values.

 

[Jennywocky]

OP: I agree that you were not "rude" by your behavior, you were just casual by accepted social norms. However, I think people should cut the girl some slack; like someone else said, there are "differing values" in place here.

I've changed a lot now, but I totally get where she's coming from.

She didn't quite know what she wanted; she got put on the spot; she felt like she was making the fast-food guy and the car behind you wait for her (so she was being intrusive/rude); she just wanted you to order basic soft burritos but you forced it into a situation where she had to do a more detailed analysis without having time to think about it, and now she felt deficient and embarrassed for not the answer ready to go; she was kinda of put off from HER end that you didn't seem to care at all about these things; etc. If there had not been a car behind you, she might have managed okay, but that added pressure pushed things over the edge.

So she salvaged things by pushing you guys through, connecting with the fast-food person to cover up what she felt was disruption on her part, then wanted to go someplace else and get her food.

I used to go through this a lot myself when I was younger, the same sort of feelings, and it took me some years to recalibrate and get a better sense of what was realistic. I still admit I would feel anxiety in that situation (and I always have my meal figured out before I pull up to the speaker, and hate asking for more time), but I'm wise enough now to realize the fast-food person doesn't care if I need an extra 15 seconds, and the guy behind me knew what he was getting into when he got in line, and it's not like Western society hinges on a fast-food transaction going down smoothly, so... whatever.

Anyway, if we're gonna MBTI it, she's got an Fe sense that isn't yet grounded/tempered by some other functions, and she sounds pretty introverted and hates to be the center of attention, if I had to guess. The situation did not fit with her expected norm or what she saw the norm to be, she felt like she was violating the norm and thus disruptive/bad, and so then she tried to cover it up by accepted pleasantries. Likely IFJ. (ISFJ, if I had to be particular.)

You were not rude at all. I think it's bullshit when strangers ask me how I'm doing. Seriously? Do you even care?

I used to feel that way too. I guess that's because at the time I expected any meaningful exchange with people to be deep and substantial, and this was just like "street-passing," and of course they didn't really "care" about me as an individual.

But it doesn't mean they weren't operating on SOME level of social acceptance -- the communal level. Think breadth, not depth. Just like two women smile and say hi to each other when they pass, even if they don't know each other, and it's actually warm and beneficial, despite the reality they don't know anything about each other.

Some of us judge people on content, and these sort of exchanges are often superficial in terms of that, but it doesn't mean they are not affirmative of one's broad acceptance into the daily community around them.

I don't even say thank you when they hand me my food. Do you think that's rude?

I personally think it would be nice if you did and help the exchange go better (and there will be people who will be offended by your not simply saying "thank you"), but it's not that big of a deal, context-wise.

 

[boondockbabe]

The fast sood people-well all customer service actually. They HAVE to ask you that. They care less then you do. They just want to go home. I think you're fine. I dont ever talk to them either.. well unless they managed to fuck up my order between the drive thru order statoin and the pickup window. Amazing how often that happens.

Your girlfriend sounds like a person who is nice and very caring. And she must have alot of paitence to put up with a INTP when she is that caring. I think you should hold on to her. It's hard enough to find someone you can get along with. But to find someone you get along with that puts up with your shit? Odds are against ya.

good luck

 

[briangriffin32]

I would agree that the Taco Bell employee couldn't care less about about the exchange, as he's required to ask "how are you doing?". Even if you did respond, he probably wouldn't listen as he would be too busy anticipating your order.

Incidentally, when I was cold calling potential clients would ask me how I was doing, and I often would forget to reply and ask them the same question in response. Typical INTP absent-mindedness.

Your girlfriend's order for a soft burrito had me in stitches. Is there such a thing as a hard burrito? I Googled to research. The result of my query is linked below:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hard burrito

Your girlfriend probably didn't realize there is more than one type of "soft burrito" and then felt stupid for not anticipating a more specific order before your time was up. Then she was projecting her insecurity of feeling stupid onto the innocent fast food employee. This type of projecting seems common for SJs, as they like to deal with their flaws by bossing other people around.

To avoid a similar Taco Bell-related drama in the future, you might want to explain her choices (i.e. chicken burrito vs bean burrito etc). Likely she'll just pick one simply to speed things along, and feel appreciated that you cared enough to explain her options.

Incidentally, I had a similar situtation with an ESFJ ex-friend. Often, she would be going on about some drama or whatever, and I'd just tune her out. Overtime she felt hurt but lacked the courage to tell me about it. Once we were leaving a crowded restaurant. While navigating an unsightly mob (Who liked to use the words "excuse me" gratuitiously. Yes I see you and I will get out of your way once I can) I raced out the door, while my friend chided me for not saying thank you.

Apparantly, I was very rude in not commenting this poor stranger on his monumental sacrifice in opening the door (which he opened so he could walk through himself). The horror! Honestly, I didn't see him as I was too busy getting out of everyone else's way.

 

[thoumyvision]

Are you still dating the same ENFP from this thread?

 

[boondockbabe]

I laughed pretty hard about the burrito too. I was thinking mabye she just did'nt want a chimichanga and didnt know what it was called.
and briangriffin32 is right. Just explain things to her. But be careful, if you do this too much you will start receving condecending glances. OR the I KNOW. I get that alot, but it does beat the alternative.

 

[telepathink]

i think you should listen to your gf more carefully and accept that she cares about other people and might be uncomfortable with your behavior. there's no need to make a fuss about what kind of soft burrito you are ordering - you better focus on making your gf feel fine, not demanding some answers that your ego is telling you.

and yes, it is polite to answer even a taco bell guy - do you feel that you are better in some way? higher class, a god? i can tell you that you are not - and even if you are... its still nice to say thanks.

your behaviour wasn't very good, although I might behave in the same way that doesn't mean its the way to go... specially if it gets you into a conflict

 

[EmergingAlbert]

Are you still dating the same ENFP from this thread?

I've been wondering if anybody would ever pick up on that. Yes, I am.

 

[Moocow]

I hate it when people ask "how are you doing" as if we all need to constantly check up on each other's well being. Maybe I should answer that I'm "at the end of my rope" and see if they want to talk about how I'm doing.

 

[EmergingAlbert]

Your girlfriend sounds like a person who is nice and very caring. And she must have alot of paitence to put up with a INTP when she is that caring. I think you should hold on to her. It's hard enough to find someone you can get along with. But to find someone you get along with that puts up with your shit? Odds are against ya.

She is very caring, which is one of the many reasons I like her so much. It's just a double-edged sword. I love that she's caring and cares about people so much, but on the flip side, she expects me to care about people as much as she does. Sometimes it's even annoying how much she cares about not only people, but simple things and values. I'm indifferent to a lot of things, and she often tells me how she finds my indifference offensive. I like most things in moderation...she likes most things to the extreme.

But it is also amazing, as you said, how much she puts up with my crap. She tells me that I have taught her patience. In return, I put up with a lot of her crap, too (my original post being an example). I suppose it just shows us how much we love each other.

 

[thoumyvision]

Sounds like her internal value system worries more about what people think of her than her own desires. Her Ne is focusing on the possibilities of what the people behind you are thinking and she gets flustered when you try to throw new information at her because she wants to concentrate on people's feelings. She's not letting her Fi figure out what she wants to eat and is instead defaulting to worrying about what the people behind you are thinking.

What to do about it? I have no idea, I doubt relating this sort of analysis to her would be at all helpful.

 

[thoumyvision]

Y'know, I bet she probably unconsciously wanted you to make the decision for her; however, woe be to you if she didn't like your choice.

 

[EmergingAlbert]

Sounds like her internal value system worries more about what people think of her than her own desires. Her Ne is focusing on the possibilities of what the people behind you are thinking and she gets flustered when you try to throw new information at her because she wants to concentrate on people's feelings. She's not letting her Fi figure out what she wants to eat and is instead defaulting to worrying about what the people behind you are thinking.

What to do about it? I have no idea, I doubt relating this sort of analysis to her would be at all helpful.

Hold on...how long have you known my girlfriend??? She's not cheating on me with you, is she?

 

[terraxceles]

I've been wondering if anybody would ever pick up on that. Yes, I am.

Your ENFP girlfriend sounds like an ExFJ/Fe-dom.

 

[EmergingAlbert]

What makes you think she's a judger?

 

[terraxceles]

Well, she seems to value the shared communal values a lot more than logic, which she has a repulsive reaction to. That makes me think Fe-dom, but of course, I don't know her and she could very well be ENFP who became headstrong in one particular situation.

 

[EmergingAlbert]

I thought that was more about being a feeler, not a judger. I don't know a lot about typology though (all that Fe Ti Se stuff).

Also, her mother was very polite and proper, so I think she might get some of that from her.

 

[thoumyvision]

I thought that was more about being a feeler, not a judger. I don't know a lot about typology though (all that Fe Ti Se stuff).

Also, her mother was very polite and proper, so I think she might get some of that from her.

In the Meyers-Briggs types the inner two letters indicate most used functions, and the outer two indicate attitude and preference.

All people need a way to take in information. They do this through Perceiving functions (iNtuition or Sensing). All people also need a way to process, or judge that information. They do this through Judging functions (Thinking or Feeling). These functions can be used either in an inward way (Introversion) or in an external way (Extroversion)

The attitude of a person's preferred primary function indicates whether or not they're Introverted or Extroverted. Their second function will have the opposite attitude because introverts need a way to deal with the external world and extroverts need to have a self-identity. A person's extroverted function determines whether or not they're P or J, if the extroverted function is a Perceiving function they're a P, and vice versa.

So, in the case of ENFP her functions are iNtuition and Feeling. The E indicates her primary function (the one she feels most comfortable using) is used in an Extroverted manner, and the P indicates that her extroverted function is her Perceiving function, in this case iNtuition, so her primary function is Extroverted iNtuition, or Ne. Her secondary function is Feeling, and since her primary function is extroverted her secondary is going to be introverted, so Introverted Feeling, or Fi.

 

[Solitaire U.]

'Introverted directness' is bullshit. If the drive-thru attendant had ignored your friendly greeting and instead ordered you to "Wait a minute" because he wasn't ready to take your order yet, it would have provoked you to exercise your assumed inalienable right to have a melt-down and express vengeful outrage to his/her superiors. The ironic universality of the sentiments this thread is generating only reveals that your approach isn't unique, visionary, enlightened, or any other advanced form of divergence. Anyone who has taken on the task of provisioning the demands of the masses will tell you that it frequently entails dealing with unappreciative prick after prick after prick in an endless stream. Attempting to rationalize an INTP context for it is just another means of pandering to hypocrisy and ignorance. Ironic, all the support and encouragement you're receiving, don't you think?

It's pretty hard to mistake rudeness for anything but rudeness, and even my 8 year old son understands that down-tuning it's degree of intensity doesn't make it any less inappropriate. He is also aware of the follies of increasing courtesy and politeness to affected levels strictly when it serves his own interests.

Your gf, who has obviously developed some hypersensitivity towards the feelings of others, most likely exacerbated at least in part by the stress your lack of respect is infusing into the mix, is nevertheless sound in her basic rationale. I'd advise her as I have advised my son...that he is not obliged to sell himself short in adherence to any social custom. The boundaries of common courtesy do not extend to allowing others to exploit his subordinate status. He demonstrates comprehensive awareness of this and is but a child. Comparatively, your gf as described might be somewhat at-risk of ending up behind the bushes obliging the needs of others. Your description is that exaggerated.

Courtesy is our only means of conveying to each other that our primal wiring to identify strangers as adversaries is held in check. This is synonymous with what is termed 'mutual respect'...NOT to be confused with the mere possession of social status for which the term is frequently mis-applied. Respect is not a commodity...do not foolishly take for granted that it comes in the bag with your burrito simply because you've paid for the right. You paid for the napkins and hot sauce that probably aren't in the fucker, and the reason they've been forgotten might just be connected in some way to the impression of yourself you've fed into that loudspeaker. If you sincerely can't be arsed to commit to a few extra words ie: "Fine thanks, but we'll need a few moments to decide what we want." (which would have gotten you directly to "No problem, take all the time you need and tell me when you're ready to place your order." I have been on the receiving end of that intercom and know the protocol), why should the drive-thru guy be arsed to give a shit about your satisfaction? You assume perhaps that his employers have earned his loyalty by forging a mutually respectful relationship with him that cancels out your rudeness? You believe in the lies floating down from the upper floors of Taco Bell corporate headquarters about your consumer satisfaction being the prime directive? Your dollar! and keep in mind that you've chosen to exchange it for your next meal through a drive-thru window. This already implies it's not important enough to you to even go to the effort of getting out of your car, which is irrelevant atm, but know that your dollar itself is worth NOTHING to the people who prepare this food for you! Your gratitude is the most they can expect, and you withhold it. To what advantage?

Think of it another way. How many pricks do you suppose it takes to reach critical mass? If a single instance is just cause for YOU to bang your fists on a manager's desk, how have you arrived at the notion that it's safe to gamble your own rudeness against the possibility of someone spitting in your burrito?

 

[mke2686]

I don't even say thank you when they hand me my food. Do you think that's rude?

No, there doing a job that they probably hate. They probably want as little interaction as possible, thats how i would feel.

It's very rare for me to say thank you to somebody, for me its one of those things that are said too much...

Edit: When was the last time someone said thank you and you honestly thought it was genuine?

 

[Solitaire U.]

No, there doing a job that they probably hate. They probably want as little interaction as possible, thats how i would feel.

It's very rare for me to say thank you to somebody, for me its one of those things that are said too much...

Edit: When was the last time someone said thank you and you honestly thought it was genuine?

That's how you would feel if what? What do you think is the #1 reason why they probably hate their job?

Last night before my youngest son went to bed, he asked if he and his friend who's staying over this weekend could sleep in our trailer in the back yard. I told him they could, to which he replied "Thank You". Do I doubt his sincerity? No. If anything, the things he's thankful for seem to inspire pure elation in him.

Perhaps you don't know what gratitude is. It's very rare for you to say thanks...you assume others don't want to be thanked...you assume it's insincere when somebody does say thanks. Yes, no question about it...you don't know what gratitude is.

 

[natg989]

My best friend is an ISFJ and I would wager that she has the personality type of your girlfriend. ISFJs get their happiness from making other people happy, so it's great that she's making you happy, but if she senses that you don't make other people happy or are "rude" in her terms, she's not going to like it. She is going to be unhappy and she is going to dump you. I would advise you to be more considerate of others if you want to keep her as your girlfriend.

 

[Jennywocky]

She is very caring, which is one of the many reasons I like her so much. It's just a double-edged sword. I love that she's caring and cares about people so much, but on the flip side, she expects me to care about people as much as she does. Sometimes it's even annoying how much she cares about not only people, but simple things and values. I'm indifferent to a lot of things, and she often tells me how she finds my indifference offensive. I like most things in moderation...she likes most things to the extreme.

But it is also amazing, as you said, how much she puts up with my crap. She tells me that I have taught her patience. In return, I put up with a lot of her crap, too (my original post being an example). I suppose it just shows us how much we love each other.

Good for you guys. It sounds like you are both trying to approach your differences in positive ways. That's what I went through with my marriage; it was very grueling in many ways, but it changed me forever and made me a better person, so....

My best friend is an ISFJ and I would wager that she has the personality type of your girlfriend. ISFJs get their happiness from making other people happy, so it's great that she's making you happy, but if she senses that you don't make other people happy or are "rude" in her terms, she's not going to like it. She is going to be unhappy and she is going to dump you. I would advise you to be more considerate of others if you want to keep her her as your girlfriend.

It seems like she's already weathered things a bit, based on other posts.

You're also forgetting that insane ISFJ sense of "duty" and "never give up." If anyone's going to stick it out through rough times, it's an ISFJ.

No, there doing a job that they probably hate. They probably want as little interaction as possible, thats how i would feel.

I think you'd do better taking them as individuals. Just off-hand, I can picture an equal number of fast-food people I've dealt with who seemed indifferent about their job, who seemed to hate their job, and who seemed to invest positivity into their job. You're projecting based on "how you would feel" ... but they are not all you.

It's very rare for me to say thank you to somebody, for me its one of those things that are said too much... Edit: When was the last time someone said thank you and you honestly thought it was genuine?

Pretty much the norm for me is that people are being genuine. On occasion, I'll sense someone is just being polite.

If you never said thank you, I'd probably think you didn't give a crap and stop doing things for you.

 

[mke2686]

judging by the replies to my previous post one of two thing are occurring, either im becoming more cynical or I see that people are just doing what they're programmed to do from a young age. Take your pick.

 

[EditorOne]

Footnote: Sometimes there's a cultural element in all this. When I lived in the small-town American South and the cashier at the Food Lion asked me how I was, she wanted to know and in fact wasn't punching keys until she heard an answer. A very common cultural expectation there for any interaction is 1. establish social ease 2. proceed with transaction. I have theories on why, but it's too much to get into. Up north, especially in more urban areas, the expectation is 180 degrees different. Insisting on a personal exchange before getting on with the business at hand is considered mildly rude, although nobody probably articulates it that way. The reaction usually just comes out as impatience.
I do sometimes worry about "the line behind me," but that's more or less taking an interest in the efficiency of the process I'm part of.
At a practical level, my wife has a habit of postponing all decisions as long as possible, meaning for instance that at a restaurant the server sometimes has to give us more time. At a Taco Bell-type situation, if I'm driving and ordering at the drive-up, my solution is to ask her well ahead of time what she wants, and to phrase things, on a trip, like this: "We're coming up to an exit in a few miles. Unless you object I'm going to the Taco Bell. What would you like me to order for you?" Avoiding an issue, I've found, is infinitely preferable to having an argument, even when you win the argument.
And I tell the servers "Thank you" every time. It costs me nothing and they are, every day, going to have to deal with complete assholes who make life miserable (as opposed to "benign neglect" from INTPs :-) ). They are not machines and they are not like me (ie., they don't function in a fulfilled sort of way whether anyone notices or not.)

 

[ummidk]

I don't even say thank you when they hand me my food. Do you think that's rude?

I don't think you were rude and personally wouldn't have cared but a thank you doesn't hurt. People usually will say it to me when I purchase something, do you really think this is deserved? As a result, at this point I always say thanks whenever I purchase something, Idk not really neccesary, but I also say thanks when someone says bless you (I don't say bless you though) which I realize is stupid because its based off of people thinking that sneezes were the devil. I guess my thoughts on it are that manners in general are unnecessary but for the most part they aren't hurting anyone.

judging by the replies to my previous post one of two thing are occurring, either im becoming more cynical or I see that people are just doing what they're programmed to do from a young age. Take your pick.

pft the latter.

 

[Minamimoto]

If anybody was rude, it was her. o.O had you just gone with it and asked for two soft burritos, you'd probably have taken even longer. They'd either assume you meant soft tacos, or insist on figuring out what you meant. Since you did not know what she meant, it would've worked to the same end; you asking her what 'soft burritos' are. As for not engaging in small talk, that's all personal preference. I personally try to at least tell 'em to have a good night and thank them for doing their job, but for her to treat you as though you were in rude by not doing so is ridiculous and self righteous.

Edit: Solitaire makes a better point, however.

 

[Artsu Tharaz]

Y'know, I bet she probably unconsciously wanted you to make the decision for her; however, woe be to you if she didn't like your choice.

I don't think it was unconscious at all. This is probably the main reason she was annoyed.


Also, agreed about her being J rather than P.

 

[Ex-User (4771)]

You were right on cue dude, your girl is just confused. The guy on the other side of the mic dose not care how you really are doing, they are just basically forced to say that. Dose your girl expect you to have a damn conversation with this guy? I think it is actually rude of her to waste your time, his time, and then to get pissy when you asked what she wanted, all because she couldn't seem to understand that there about 5 or 6 variants of burritos at TB.

 

[EmergingAlbert]

Also, agreed about her being J rather than P.

She's definitely a P, although she does often have some J tendencies. Just go to her house and look at her room...then you'll realize she's a P! :-P

But seriously, she also has trouble with making decisions and being indecisive, just like me. We're definitely both P's...

 

[Artsu Tharaz]

She's definitely a P, although she does often have some J tendencies. Just go to her house and look at her room...then you'll realize she's a P! :-P

But seriously, she also has trouble with making decisions and being indecisive, just like me. We're definitely both P's...

J/P isn't about being decisive, except in more specific senses. I would perhaps say that J is better at making more consistent lifestyle decisions, P is better at making more impulsive decisions.

I'm not sure how well the state of your room correlates, however overly messy room = P might not be all that inaccurate. Hmmmmm.

 

[EmergingAlbert]

J/P isn't about being decisive, except in more specific senses. I would perhaps say that J is better at making more consistent lifestyle decisions, P is better at making more impulsive decisions.

I'm not sure how well the state of your room correlates, however overly messy room = P might not be all that inaccurate. Hmmmmm.

Impulsive decisions are the only decisions she knows how to make, and her room is just about as messy as mine.

 

[Joz_helloworld]

It may be worthwhile talking to the guy, he may well be an interesting person... you never know...

However, it is certainly not rude, as Athideus said, he is required to ask that of his customers and expects no worthwhile reply, or at least, I never expected a worthwhile reply when I worked in retail... in fact I used to conjoin 'Hi how are you today' with 'which pump did you use', without waiting for an answer.