INTPs,what makes us special or weird?

[final-dimension]

Actually I noticed that people look at INTPs as if they were the weirdest thing they have ever seen. And some INTPs who know they are INTPs use that name as an excuse for some actions like not being disciplined,being unorganized and irresponsible at times. I also noticed that sometimes some INTPs make a drama about not having emotions social anxiety,and that most people are so annoyingly stupid.
Don't you think so too?
Why does society not accept us? And why do we not accept reality.
I just want to know...
And that drama honestly started annoying me.I have no problem if I wasn't an INTP,cause I don't think INTP are THAT different or THAT good or THAT special.
I do like INTPs,I just don't like the drama some of them make about being an INTP...

 

[final-dimension]

I just want to make sure you get it right, I am not with nor with society and the same for INTPs.I just want to know what all this drama is about...

 

[Glordag]

This just reads like a bunch of generalizations. I don't think that INTPs fall into these behaviors or properties as much as you might think.

As an example - with regards to emotion, I actually have a good amount of personal emotion and feeling. It would seem that I have a higher Fi function than the "typical" INTP. There are a lot of INTPs here that seem to fit in rather well with society and groups of friends.

These sorts of things can even change depending on where you are in your life and how your environment changes. Last year I was extremely social and participated in the night life of bar and club hopping. The past 4-5 months I've been exceedingly antisocial and have fairly consistently stayed home to myself the entire time.

I think INTPs would be more likely to "accept" reality, but just be curious as to how or why everything works the way it does.

 

[final-dimension]

This just reads like a bunch of generalizations. I don't think that INTPs fall into these behaviors or properties as much as you might think.

As an example - with regards to emotion, I actually have a good amount of personal emotion and feeling. It would seem that I have a higher Fi function than the "typical" INTP. There are a lot of INTPs here that seem to fit in rather well with society and groups of friends.

These sorts of things can even change depending on where you are in your life and how your environment changes. Last year I was extremely social and participated in the night life of bar and club hopping. The past 4-5 months I've been exceedingly antisocial and have fairly consistently stayed home to myself the entire time.

I think INTPs would be more likely to "accept" reality, but just be curious as to how or why everything works the way it does.

I totally agree with you, and that is what I mean,some INTPs make a drama of it...
And I don't think being introverted or being an INTP is not okay I just don't understand why some INTPs talk about it that much,I sometimes get the feeling they try to convince their-selves and others that they are INTPs.So what it doesn't really matter,does it?
And some other people look at INTPS as if they were weirdos what I just can't understand...

 

[Glordag]

Some INTPs definitely are weirdos .

Sometimes I enjoy making a big deal out of being an INTP, because I do feel like it's a special thing to take pride in occasionally. I enjoy the way I see the world, and I feel like others are missing out sometimes. I guess people just want to feel special every so often.

 

[Melllvar]

And some other people look at INTPS as if they were weirdos what I just can't understand...

We are weirdos!! and don't ever say differently. I need excuses for my lack of social skills, and you can't take this one away from me.

 

[final-dimension]

Yeah,finally. I just wanted to hear that from you guys,I thought I was the only one who makes a big deal out of it...
But with that said I think we INTPs were honest today about this issue...
Yes we do make a big deal of it,but it is fun
And yes it is the perfect excuse,that is why I used "us" not "you",because I do the same.
But I am still not sure if I was an INTP or not ....
Anyways I like talking about being an INTP even if I wasn't one

 

[final-dimension]

We are weirdos!! and don't ever say differently. I need excuses for my lack of social skills, and you can't take this one away from me.

Don't worry, I won't. Because I need that excuse myself ^^.

 

[final-dimension]

Some INTPs definitely are weirdos .

Sometimes I enjoy making a big deal out of being an INTP, because I do feel like it's a special thing to take pride in occasionally. I enjoy the way I see the world, and I feel like others are missing out sometimes. I guess people just want to feel special every so often.

Oh yes I totally agree,I am a weirdo myself and I am proud of it!

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Actually I noticed that people look at INTPs as if they were the weirdest thing they have ever seen.

And some INTPs who know they are INTPs use that name as an excuse for some actions like not being disciplined,being unorganized and irresponsible at times.

I also noticed that sometimes some INTPs make a drama about not having emotions social anxiety,and that most people are so annoyingly stupid.

How many INTPs have you observed in real life situations? It seems like you're making generalizations based on Forum observations.

 

[Zensunni]

I do make a big deal of it on occasion. Those occasions happen for two reasons. First, I am fully aware that I am lacking in some social interaction capacities that others take for granted. Knowing this, I see my short-coming (usually after) some interactions. I feel bad because of the result of this short-coming. For the most part I have managed to offend someone in some way. Most times I am careless about this fact unless the person I have offended lashes out or shows pain. That is where the second reason comes in. I make a big deal about it while trying to explain myself to the person I am apologizing to.

I get along with very few people in a deep sense. I usually am pleasant and learned the normal social graces for the general public and perform my duties as I should. In my personal life, with people I care about, when I turn off that need to be self-conscious about what I am doing and who I might be offending, I step on toes quite often. Those people I care about I manage to upset. That is not my intent so I try and explain because those people mean so very much to me because they are the ones who for the most part put up with me and my short-comings with such tolerance and aplomb. If I have done something so bad as to offend one of them I know it and I care.

 

[final-dimension]

How many INTPs have you observed in real life situations? It seems like you're making generalizations based on Forum observations.

Yes,I did. And I know that.

 

[final-dimension]

I do make a big deal of it on occasion. Those occasions happen for two reasons. First, I am fully aware that I am lacking in some social interaction capacities that others take for granted. Knowing this, I see my short-coming (usually after) some interactions. I feel bad because of the result of this short-coming. For the most part I have managed to offend someone in some way. Most times I am careless about this fact unless the person I have offended lashes out or shows pain. That is where the second reason comes in. I make a big deal about it while trying to explain myself to the person I am apologizing to.

I get along with very few people in a deep sense. I usually am pleasant and learned the normal social graces for the general public and perform my duties as I should. In my personal life, with people I care about, when I turn off that need to be self-conscious about what I am doing and who I might be offending, I step on toes quite often. Those people I care about I manage to upset. That is not my intent so I try and explain because those people mean so very much to me because they are the ones who for the most part put up with me and my short-comings with such tolerance and aplomb. If I have done something so bad as to offend one of them I know it and I care.

Well a lot of INTPs do have that problem *I think* ...

 

[Zensunni]

It is like trying to intelligently explain how you are autistic. People do not think anyone who is that smart could be that dumb.

 

[VroumVroum]

I used to feel one step behind others. I’ve wasted a great amount of my potential and of my life. I haven’t had much fun compared to others. And, since I’m the one different I had assumed that I was responsible.


I guess it’s easy to make a drama out of it.



Especially as you join here. Because people are supposed to have been through similar experiences and you’re influenced by their posts.
I’m afraid that this forum and the idea of been an INTP could make things a lot worst.

 

[Architect]

The funny thing is people, including my family think I'm really weird, but by the usual standards of society today I'm not weird at all. I have a job, a family, no piercings or body tattoos, really–I look perfectly ordinary and act it also.

Maybe my weirdness is of the insidious less obvious type, that is to say it's real, not posed.

 

[Dimensional Transition]

How many INTPs have you observed in real life situations? It seems like you're making generalizations based on Forum observations.

Yeah, I haven't even seen people make such drama you're talking about in the first place. With maybe 1 or 2 exceptions.

 

[Andropov]

HIV/AIDS.

 

[Trebuchet]

Why does society not accept us? And why do we not accept reality.

When I was a kid, up to about age 14, my society of schoolmates did not accept me. From there, things started to improve, slowly at first, and now I am freer about being myself, and yet more accepted by society, than ever before. People still think I'm weird, sure, but no one hints that I don't belong. Lots of my peers now seek out my opinion.

So the constancy of that complaint on this forum may be due to the large proportion of teens here. Teens always have a hard time with society, and being INTP sure doesn't help. As for why young INTPs are not accepted, I think it is because we are different. People who are very tall or short, have an accent, or a funny name, or anything different at all will be attacked.

The drama I also attribute to young forum members. I look back on all my drama with a mixture of horror and affection. I wouldn't trade it for a different past, though at the time I would have.

As for accepting reality, why should we accept it? As long as we can function in reality, our passion to make things better, and to fight inefficiency and bad logic, is valuable and rare.

 

[final-dimension]

When I was a kid, up to about age 14, my society of schoolmates did not accept me. From there, things started to improve, slowly at first, and now I am freer about being myself, and yet more accepted by society, than ever before. People still think I'm weird, sure, but no one hints that I don't belong. Lots of my peers now seek out my opinion.

So the constancy of that complaint on this forum may be due to the large proportion of teens here. Teens always have a hard time with society, and being INTP sure doesn't help. As for why young INTPs are not accepted, I think it is because we are different. People who are very tall or short, have an accent, or a funny name, or anything different at all will be attacked.

The drama I also attribute to young forum members. I look back on all my drama with a mixture of horror and affection. I wouldn't trade it for a different past, though at the time I would have.

As for accepting reality, why should we accept it? As long as we can function in reality, our passion to make things better, and to fight inefficiency and bad logic, is valuable and rare.

This sure explains a lot,thank you for this post...

 

[final-dimension]

I used to feel one step behind others. I’ve wasted a great amount of my potential and of my life. I haven’t had much fun compared to others. And, since I’m the one different I had assumed that I was responsible.


I guess it’s easy to make a drama out of it.



Especially as you join here. Because people are supposed to have been through similar experiences and you’re influenced by their posts.
I’m afraid that this forum and the idea of been an INTP could make things a lot worst.

That is what I think too,yes at the beginning you have a problem,you are different,most people don't accept you,but after you find out you are an INTP,you actually discover that it isn't a problem and that you are not the one at fault. You discover that you actually have some qualities others lack,then it is like "Do you see society? I wasn't the one at fault you are!" or something like that.
So now being an INTP is something special instead of a curse.
Yes I had the same feeling VroumVroum, thought that I wasn't good enough, I even sometimes stopped trying to improve my personality or my skills,but now I look at it differently not because I am an INTP*cause I am actually not sure I am one* ,but because I saw that INTPs who are different have some good qualities others lack and that being different or not good enough at something doesn't mean you are not good enough.

 

[crippli]

I wonder how much social imprinting will mould this feeling of otherness. I think I have done abnormal things from I was small. Like when eating food. A huge part of the time spent on the table constituted me shaping perfect spheres in my mouth and forming them into something on the platter. Then I'd just fall asleep at the table. Sometimes with a sound when the head impacted with the table, almost every time I ate, for a long time. And I tended to fall and hurt myself on the bare floor, all the time, blue marks all over constantly, I've been told. And there is more. All these things tended to make people do the 'oh, that weird kid'. I'm pretty sure I've grown off most of this, and have learned to adapt common modes of behaviour.

 

[final-dimension]

Yeah, I haven't even seen people make such drama you're talking about in the first place. With maybe 1 or 2 exceptions.

I said I generalized and that those are just observations on some forum members,and again it is a subjective thing *those were my observations*and as I said before sometimes I do myself make such drama *although it is just between me and myself,well I did that because I am an INTP or because I am menot someone else *.
I just used that tone to provoke you guys so you would answer more quickly...

 

[crippli]

or because I am me

I don't tend to think of me as myself. Just a product of others interaction. Without others influence I'm not sure what I would be, if anything. And I don't mean just people, but all things that interact with me directly or indirectly.

 

[final-dimension]

I wonder how much social imprinting will mould this feeling of otherness. I think I have done abnormal things from I was small. Like when eating food. A huge part of the time spent on the table constituted me shaping perfect spheres in my mouth and forming them into something on the platter. Then I'd just fall asleep at the table. Sometimes with a sound when the head impacted with the table, almost every time I ate, for a long time. And I tended to fall and hurt myself on the bare floor, all the time, blue marks all over constantly, I've been told. And there is more. All these things tended to make people do the 'oh, that weird kid'. I'm pretty sure I've grown off most of this, and have learned to adapt common modes of behaviour.

I think you should stop caring about what society wants from you,and focus on what you want from your life. I am sure some of the habits you had in the past you didn't want in the future,I mean when you change something about your behavior should be for the sake of personality improvement not to please society.I am not saying this,because I think you are trying to please society , it is just a thought. So why did you change ?

 

[final-dimension]

I don't tend to think of me as myself. Just a product of others interaction. Without others influence I'm not sure what I would be, if anything. And I don't mean just people, but all things that interact with me directly or indirectly.

me : the person I am today...
is this okay?

 

[final-dimension]

HIV/AIDS.

What do you mean?Do you mind to clarify?

 

[final-dimension]

It is like trying to intelligently explain how you are autistic. People do not think anyone who is that smart could be that dumb.

I didn't get what you exactly mean,but I think you mean you are not in the position that allows you to answer that question,because you are an INTP your self?

 

[Andropov]

You aren't special dumbass.

 

[Zensunni]

I didn't get what you exactly mean,but I think you mean you are not in the position that allows you to answer that question,because you are an INTP your self?

Many people comment about how intelligent I am which to me is weird because I feel completely inept and foolish in certain situations. When I make a social blunder and explain the way I see things to someone, they stare at me blankly as if they cannot understand how someone as smart as me has such a difficult time understanding something they consider to be so elemental.

My friends are the ones who do not take my blunders personally and can look beyond it.

 

[SilentChaos]

Intp’s (depending on how strong their perceiving function is) are observant creatures, lots of their time is spent in their own mind. Is it not possible that we are the only ones who noticed that social blunder or picked up the quaver before answering the phone?

I think most intp’s appear to be normal people perhaps shy or slightly unpredictable.Most people don’t notice much more. We are the only ones thinking who think we are weird.

also, society does accept us, many of us do not accept society.

 

[Zensunni]

Nice. Very observant....

 

[The Gopher]

We can be Self-Deprecating Narcissists and not a bit sarcastic.

 

[Artsu Tharaz]

Are any other types notorious for being unable to socialise?

From what I understand, S's don't have as much trouble, and even INTJs can socialise fine when they actually want to.

 

[SpaceYeti]

So can we. We just need practice.

 

[final-dimension]

So can we. We just need practice.

But I don't think that socializing is one of your priorities. My mom tells me that I should live like people in my age and that I should have more fun,and go out more often * what if I don't want to?*. I think INTPs just don't want to socialize...

 

[Dimensional Transition]

I just need a lot of time to recharge from 'being social'. And I always feel weird when talking to others. It makes me feel a bit depersonalized, I observe my own and others behavior so much it's annoying me. Today I went out for a dinner with some of my family and it was exhausting as hell. People just tire me, it seems. Or at least boring stuff like family gatherings.

 

[final-dimension]

socializing is tiring believe me you are not the only one who thinks that!

 

[SpaceYeti]

But I don't think that socializing is one of your priorities. My mom tells me that I should live like people in my age and that I should have more fun,and go out more often * what if I don't want to?*. I think INTPs just don't want to socialize...

Well, it's not something I'm drawn to naturally. It took D&D and multiplayer video games to originally get me out of my shell. Also, I had the fortune of meeting my INTJ best friend in third grade.