Black Rose
An unbreakable bond
How aware of it are you?
How does it come out when immature or undeveloped.
How does it come out when immature or undeveloped.
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INTPs relationship to (Si-Fe)?
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I exercise Si when doing photography, which is very important to me. It gets me out of the house and away from my computer and books; I reconnect with the world, on my terms because I'm analyzing it and looking for how to photograph it. Fe is exercised via music, another very important activity. Again it connects me with poetry, my soul, if such a thing exists and I have one.
If I ignore either of these activities a psychic pressure builds up and my creativity and self go to pot.
If I ignore either of these activities a psychic pressure builds up and my creativity and self go to pot.
MichiganJFrog
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I don't know enough about Si yet to say what it looks like when not managed properly. With regard to Fe, many, many strained relationships have brought home to me the urgency of getting more familiar with this function.
I used to take a lot pictures as a kid, especially in junior high. People actually seemed to respond to me more, and more positively, when I had a camera in front of my face. Music does seem to be a good way to give the Fe its due. I find that getting out in nature, or into neighborhoods I like here in the city, helps a lot with tapping into emotion, too.
DetachedRetina
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It seems like developing an Si workout would be pretty easy:
Take a walk in the park and then later try to write down all the details of your experience. Try to remember the names of the streets you walked on and the sights and smells you encountered etc.
Take a walk in the park and then later try to write down all the details of your experience. Try to remember the names of the streets you walked on and the sights and smells you encountered etc.
Dapper Dan
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I think you're confusing Si with Se.
Si, in my experience, tends to manifest itself through habits and routines. It prefers the status quo, which can make for a paralyzing combo with Ne's openness. On the plus side, Si is good at noticing things that are out of place, and it offers us a way to learn through experience.
Practice, practice, practice.
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My extraverted feeling has come out time and again when I make decisions about my relationships. I have failed over and over as a result. I get all dreamy using both my estraverted preference for feeling and intuition, I love it, it's such a lovely place to be. Then my logic kicks in and says what the hell have you done.
Urraco
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I've been grappling with both lately. I'm trying to coax them into development without being forceful.
I don't """feel""" Si very often in an active sense, it's normally a sense of apprehension before anything. I've seen Si described as a personalized roadmap, and mine isn't very intricate other than a few fundamentals. It's a thing that tugs from the back of the mind, and when I actually let it "speak up" it's often comforting. It feels like a certain stability that gives me rewarding feelings when I indulge it - a near-smugness that I averted/avoided something negative by listening to it. Sometimes I don't understand it though, like it's my teenager I can't see eye-to-eye with. Why must I feel compelled to hoard NatGeo's if I hate rereading things? Why must I keep indulging in idyllic versions of memories when they only weaken my already tenuous grip on the present?
I've also noticed it becoming more active though, such as my sudden urge to try as many varieties of wine as I can and write down my personal impressions of each. A year ago this would've sounded boring to me, at least the recording part. I'm finding delight in comparing new impressions against the old. "Ah, yes, this merlot tastes like merlot, as did the other, but it is much more 'cherry-wood den' and less 'hooker with a heart of gold." As an added bonus I can engage Ne to come up with possible descriptors, and Ti to use this information to fatten up my understanding of the universal Wine and how it incarnates.
Fe is more like my ESFJ friend - when it works, it's exhilarating and fulfilling, but when it doesn't I want to pull my hair out and punch myself in the face for thinking we're meant to be in the same room as each other. On the one hand it can be really fun when it works well. I get a rush when I make someone genuinely light up by asking a question about their life others might miss - like "I remember last time you said your aunt got in an accident, is she doing better?" On the other hand I don't like that I can get so butthurt about people neglecting/imposing on my emotional boundaries when I know I can't logically expect people to just psychically be aware of them. I know I can look pretty childish when I throw a fit just because I feel like the people that are better at socializing are rubbing it in my face, when really they're just being them. I also get very restless if I don't "feed" it occasionally. Even though I'm more introverted than my other IXXX friends, they could go almost forever without interaction, whereas I NEED interaction every so often or I'll die, even if my socializing is mostly just not talking.
Si and Fe are easy for me to see working together because my mom is an ISFJ. My idyllizing looks just like hers, but it feels more "tragic" while hers seems to lift her up. I feel an almost permanent attachment to the idea that things used to be amazing and everyone in my life was friends and all was good, and if only it were like that again... Si also seems to back up Fe. "Nobody gets what's going on. Remember so-and-so? They always knew what to do. It's obviously everyone else's fault, not mine. Here are 30 examples why."
I don't """feel""" Si very often in an active sense, it's normally a sense of apprehension before anything. I've seen Si described as a personalized roadmap, and mine isn't very intricate other than a few fundamentals. It's a thing that tugs from the back of the mind, and when I actually let it "speak up" it's often comforting. It feels like a certain stability that gives me rewarding feelings when I indulge it - a near-smugness that I averted/avoided something negative by listening to it. Sometimes I don't understand it though, like it's my teenager I can't see eye-to-eye with. Why must I feel compelled to hoard NatGeo's if I hate rereading things? Why must I keep indulging in idyllic versions of memories when they only weaken my already tenuous grip on the present?
I've also noticed it becoming more active though, such as my sudden urge to try as many varieties of wine as I can and write down my personal impressions of each. A year ago this would've sounded boring to me, at least the recording part. I'm finding delight in comparing new impressions against the old. "Ah, yes, this merlot tastes like merlot, as did the other, but it is much more 'cherry-wood den' and less 'hooker with a heart of gold." As an added bonus I can engage Ne to come up with possible descriptors, and Ti to use this information to fatten up my understanding of the universal Wine and how it incarnates.
Fe is more like my ESFJ friend - when it works, it's exhilarating and fulfilling, but when it doesn't I want to pull my hair out and punch myself in the face for thinking we're meant to be in the same room as each other. On the one hand it can be really fun when it works well. I get a rush when I make someone genuinely light up by asking a question about their life others might miss - like "I remember last time you said your aunt got in an accident, is she doing better?" On the other hand I don't like that I can get so butthurt about people neglecting/imposing on my emotional boundaries when I know I can't logically expect people to just psychically be aware of them. I know I can look pretty childish when I throw a fit just because I feel like the people that are better at socializing are rubbing it in my face, when really they're just being them. I also get very restless if I don't "feed" it occasionally. Even though I'm more introverted than my other IXXX friends, they could go almost forever without interaction, whereas I NEED interaction every so often or I'll die, even if my socializing is mostly just not talking.
Si and Fe are easy for me to see working together because my mom is an ISFJ. My idyllizing looks just like hers, but it feels more "tragic" while hers seems to lift her up. I feel an almost permanent attachment to the idea that things used to be amazing and everyone in my life was friends and all was good, and if only it were like that again... Si also seems to back up Fe. "Nobody gets what's going on. Remember so-and-so? They always knew what to do. It's obviously everyone else's fault, not mine. Here are 30 examples why."
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I would like to take up photography, but I can't afford a camera. Shit. :/ I do take walks though, I try to do that where it's quiet and there's less buildings around. Unfortunately, once again, it requires me to go far away from home. I'd prefer to do that with someone. If it's photography though, I'd prefer to go alone.
I also listen to music, but lately I couldn't decide what to listen to. I hate the new age music, and there are only so much oldies... If you listen to it 16 hours a day (when you're at PC), you can get through most of them.
Conclusion: I need to find more stimuli.
P.S. My grandpa has got some old camera, I think from around 1950s-1960s. I might ask him about it, but he's real grumpy. Plus I don't know if that film (or how it's called in English) is available for cameras that old, and if it is - how much it costs...