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INTPs can you relate?

bokehgirl91

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Since the INTP fits my personality the closest compared to all the other types, I often wonder if its also normal for an INTP to not be the brightest or the most intelligent person. I wonder sometimes if i'm such a deep thinker because i'm not the brightest. It feels like in a way my deep thinking has to make up for loads of information i still do not know, but the information that i do find out or already know that is factually, stays with me forever and i connect it to things that are very similar.

I have friends/people who think i'm intelligent just because i think deeply and differently and then friends/people who may think i'm not so intelligent. To me deep thinking does not automatically=intelligent.

Also my vocabulary isn't very extensive so i very selectively use simple words to get my point across and when i say them i mean each one literally i'm careful and exact with the words i use or purposely leave out.
 

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There are many race tracks, many race car drivers, and many race cars.
The fastest car on one track may not be the fastest car on another track.

INTPs do not have the advantage when it comes to multiple choice questions, the _NTJ is going to have the edge there but in the bigger picture, did Darwin sit down for a multiple choice test which asked him what the theory of evolution would be? Did Einstein have a multiple choice test which read:

Albert Einstein, no cheating, answer the following:
A.) A = MC/5
B.) E = 42
C.) E = MC^2

So grades can be a pretty worthless statistic. Creativity is not at all measured in school and neither is the INTP's ability to obsess over logical problems and mull over it for days, weeks, years at a time relentlessly viewing from different angles. You know, those things that are our strengths.

Hawking was at a time "third from the bottom" of his class, and John Backus is said to have flunked out his first try at college. Brilliance does not always correspond to doing well in school, I'd argue it's often enough the opposite.*

INTPs are known for being absent minded and slow talkers, some people judge that as stupidity, which is a shame.

That being said, I've met INTPs before who I felt were remarkably ignorant.


*I'm not necessarily labelling these two as INTPs
 

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I have worst grades in my college group.
and I'm not even concerned.

not all intps are gifted, maybe you are not.
I just know I'm intelligent, no need proof in other people judging
 

RedOctober

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There are many race tracks, many race car drivers, and many race cars.
The fastest car on one track may not be the fastest car on another track.

INTPs do not have the advantage when it comes to multiple choice questions, the _NTJ is going to have the edge there but in the bigger picture, did Darwin sit down for a multiple choice test which asked him what the theory of evolution would be? Did Einstein have a multiple choice test which read:

Albert Einstein, no cheating, answer the following:
A.) A = MC/5
B.) E = 42
C.) E = MC^2

So grades can be a pretty worthless statistic. Creativity is not at all measured in school and neither is the INTP's ability to obsess over logical problems and mull over it for days, weeks, years at a time relentlessly viewing from different angles. You know, those things that are our strengths.

Hawking was at a time "third from the bottom" of his class, and John Backus is said to have flunked out his first try at college. Brilliance does not always correspond to doing well in school, I'd argue it's often enough the opposite.*

INTPs are known for being absent minded and slow talkers, some people judge that as stupidity, which is a shame.

That being said, I've met INTPs before who I felt were remarkably ignorant.


*I'm not necessarily labelling these two as INTPs

Hi there,

I think you make some good points. The trouble for INTPs I think is that we can see through the system and think outside the system. Other personality types often are trapped in a system of thought and therefore can't even imagine something outside of that. It's actually a great gift for us to be able to see beyond when you think about it.

I was always a mediocre student. I had no real interest in exam performance. I've only recently discovered why - because I was an INTP! The trouble with being in a very silent minority is that you can suffer in silence for years wondering why you're different and berating yourself over and over. Now I realise that it wasn't a bad thing to be demotivated by the piece of cheese of an exam. In fact it shows a higher intelligence. The rest of the lemmings chase those things. Our way is different.

I remember when I was in university many years ago and I went to a friend's house at Easter break. His step-father was there and really made an impression on me when he said he had got a third-class degree! I was shocked as he was a very articulate and intelligent man and actually better at French than we were (we were studying French)! Only years later when I screwed up my Masters through disinterest did I realise why he could be so. Exams and bits of paper on a wall don't do it for an INTP! We want all the knowledge in the world but the very act of sitting an exam takes away our motivation (at least it does mine). Nobody has to tell me to study and think deeply and obsessedly over a topic I'm interested in. However, give me an exam on something and I'll find a way to never open the book.


The funny dichotomy is that INTPs are extremely motivated given the right problem/circumstance. Whereas many types are motivated by money, rewards, getting the job finished and done, INTPs are motivated by finding the ultimate solution to the problem/question etc. They literally cannot rest till it's sorted. It's ironic that the world perceives us as lazy or demotivated given what's really going on below.

Unfortunately we live in a world dominated by people who don't think deeply and don't have a great grasp of deeper realities, i.e. the system behind the reality we see. It's our role to educate a little bit. Sadly it often falls on deaf ears.
 

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What really made me regret that I'm an idiot who broke some important relationships, otherwise I love myself and I know I'm a unique smart, good looking, cute and bossy person I've ever known in this world. And it totally doesn't relate to INTP.

I've seen enough retard INTPs either in internet or in real life to know that they are completely different to me, nonetheless if they are actually INTP or not.
 

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INTPs just have a different kind of "intelligence", being interested in the deeper implications of things and acquiring a macro-level overview. This kind of knowledge is impressive to many, since it is comparatively rare. When it comes to spending time on details and techniques, which is usually what you need for solving real problems, INTPs SUCK. At least that's my biggest weakness as a mathematics student.
 

Alomoes

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Grades are a worthless statistic. If the information is presented in the wrong way, there isn't a point in trying. Now to fix this problem would mean a lot of work that probably wouldn't pan out to much, but if you want to try, you are my hero. As a note, op, you have all the tells of an Fi dom.

Pretty much there exists several. One. Lowercase i instead of I. Ti says no. My errors are always when I mispell something or put down the wrong word. But if I see it, it gets quashed. This could also be a tell for other types, however.

Brightness has to do with the way you process information. Unfortunately, I hate to say that it is type related. The people who are smartest are ETJs, because they do their all their work reguardless of the problems associated with it. They also don't forget. Ever. :P

I don't do any of that ESTJ stuff.
 

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Intelligence is not only measured academically. The INTP might be very good at something that an average school simply doesn't put value that much.
 
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