Inquisitor
Well-Known Member
- Local time
- Today 10:15 AM
- Joined
- Mar 31, 2015
- Messages
- 840
I never mentioned a barrier. That is a straw man. I said distance. I know that distance is not a barrier. What I would represent distance as is synonymous with time. It doesn't block anything it just delays everything.
I think you're going off the deep end here. In reality, the very minute delay that occurs between origination and termination of nerve impulses (even to the end of the extremities) is not enough to introduce any kind of perceptible disconnection between the body and the mind. Maybe some Zen masters are able to go that far, but we're talking 80 milliseconds here at most.
Despite this delay, the whole nervous system is wired in a way to produce a cohesive, integrated picture of reality so that you don't notice the lag. IOW, your brain doesn't want you to know that there was any kind of latency at all. Obviously, we evolved this way for a reason, although I don't care to speculate why atm.
The fun thing about neuroscience is that you can do the experiments on yourself. David Eagleman of the Baylor College of Medicine proceeded to treat us as his test subjects. By means of several visual illusions, he demonstrated that we are all living in the past: Our consciousness lags 80 milliseconds behind actual events. "When you think an event occurs it has already happened," Eagleman said.
In one of these illusions, the flash-lag effect, a light flashes when an object moves past it, but we don't see the two as coincident; there appears to be a slight offset between them. By varying the parameters of the experiment, Eagleman showed that this occurs because the brain tries to reconstruct events retroactively and occasionally gets it wrong. The reason, he suggested, is that our brains seek to create a cohesive picture of the world from stimuli that arrive at a range of times. If you touch your toe and nose at the same time, you feel them at the same time, even though the signal from your nose reaches your brain first. You hear and see a hand clap at the same time, even though auditory processing is faster than visual processing. Our brains also paper over gaps in information, such as eyeblinks. "Your consciousness goes through all the trouble to synchronize things," Eagleman said. But that means the slowest signal sets the pace.
Scientific American
In any case, this thread is about the relationship between psychological type and physical constitution. Despite the fact that this idea concerning time delays introducing a perceptible separation between mind and body is bunk, it doesn't address the topic of this thread.
I've already made clear my stance that the body and mind do not develop separately. The whole thing grows as one. Therefore, each psychological orientation (type) will have a relatively narrow bell curve in terms of its associated physical constitution, and there are only 7 different ones of those.
Ancient medicine is well.. ancient. 5,000 years ago it may have seemed like putting an arrow through the heart of a man killed him dead. However his mind would live on for a brief period until he lost consciousness. About 20 seconds for consciousness and 3-4 minutes for all brain activity to cease. He would not be able to communicate with you and his eyes may be glazed over ( no activity in that department ) but something in his mind is still working. At least until the true end of life has been reached.
There is no conceivable way for them to have known this. That is why I would call it convenient. It is the same reason the Earth was once believed to be flat. If you don't have evidence on hand to know the entire truth the most convenient thing to do is to go on what you know. Which is what they did.
No offense, but you know not of what you speak. Both my parents are physicians. I'm well-acquainted with the capabilities of modern medicine. I've also read volumes on Ayurveda/Chinese Medicine and consulted with numerous physicians in both those disciplines. You are suffering from chronocentrism. They knew more about certain things back then than we do now. Science is actually playing catch-up when it comes to preventive medicine. Also why do you automatically assume that they did not know that brain activity continues for 3-4 minutes after death? You really think near-death experiences (NDE) are unique to our time? You don't need a fancy piece of tech to figure this out.
This is another straw man. I did not state that the mind drew cravings from the body. I know that the body offers no input on craving. It all comes from the mind. The body however does offer illness as a response. Upset stomach? Those signals come from your stomach not your mind.
This is why I gave the example of pie. My mind may want that last bite but my stomach is telling my mind no. That creates a conflict between two entities. The conflict takes place in the mind because it also serves the purpose of being the endpoint.
This is getting awfully metaphysical...If the conflict occurs in the mind, and you observe that conflict, can it really be said that you live in the mind but not the body? IOW, does your consciousness favor the mind over the body? I don't think it does, but it is capable of perceiving the origin of sensory stimuli vs. thought vs. emotion. That's how you know that the "upset stomach" feeling comes from the stomach and isn't a thought...LOL
Seems a bit too assertive to me.
Only b/c you haven't had enough time to really investigate this for yourself.
I saw that. I don't see anything in ear placement that has to do with body type.
You didn't read till the very end where I posted pictures.