INTP transitioning to INFJ is really possible?

[ZenRaiden]

As long as I remember I thought I am INTP.
I had what one could call break through in therapy terms, but as INTP I would say I caught feelings.

My feelings though made me different.
Now I relate to some INFJ definitions.
I thought it be more realistic if I were more like INFP.

But I think my brain started using Ni. Help?
Is this a possible thing or what?

Conversely I also feel more smarter, not just more emotional.
I read faster, I think faster, I understand faster.
Before I felt like I had to think about everything, now it just comes to me.
I had some major insights lately, but I had them often and many.
And I cannot explain them.
I can understand now more, which is related to emotions, which obviously seems normal. You feel more, you feel different you think different.
The thing is I always related to INTP stuff.
But I ain't so cerebral so much.

 

[Black Rose]

They say Carl Jung was INFJ and Jesus was INFJ.
Jung thought he was more TiSe dom than NiFe dom.

Eminem is ENFJ

The friend I saw on video chat is ISTP.
I now think Gregory House is more ISTJ.
And my brother is more ESTJ.

The defining feature of INTP is the link between both sides of the frontal lobes together. It is their strongest brain area.

You could be experiencing Higher Fe in the amygdala.
Autism often deadens emotions, my schizoaffective disorder has me comatose most years.

Neo is INTJ so if you are Ni it means you are more likely INTJ because of Te.

The Architect is INTP and Oracle is INFJ.

INFP like me use Ne by associations, links to links to links via nodes.

But sound waves are high with Nx. So this too is part of Intuition.

I might be looking at this from my point of view but to me You are INTJ.

 

[ZenRaiden]

I might be looking at this from my point of view but to me You are INTJ.

That is flattering, because I like INTJs. Many I talked online with have qualities I like in people.

I feel different mainly.

That in turn changes how I see and think.

 

[scorpiomover]

As long as I remember I thought I am INTP.
I had what one could call break through in therapy terms, but as INTP I would say I caught feelings.

Sounds like you're developing your inferior Fe.

My feelings though made me different.
Now I relate to some INFJ definitions.
I thought it be more realistic if I were more like INFP.

But I think my brain started using Ni. Help?
Is this a possible thing or what?

In theory. But if you were using Ni & Fe now, then you'd be reacting like an INFJ, with the pros of an INFJ and the cons of an INFJ.

E.G. INFJs are continually upset by the actions of others, to the point where they avoid people all the time, and are even more unsociable and loners than INTPs.

Conversely I also feel more smarter, not just more emotional.
I read faster, I think faster, I understand faster.
Before I felt like I had to think about everything, now it just comes to me.
I had some major insights lately, but I had them often and many.

Ni-doms don't claim that understanding "just comes to them". But the way they ACT, is as if understanding just comes to them.

The perceptions of Ni-doms tend to also be CONVERGENT, i.e. they don't get many different insights. Instead, they have ONE insight, which is reinforced and confirmed many times.

And I cannot explain them.
I can understand now more, which is related to emotions, which obviously seems normal. You feel more, you feel different you think different.
The thing is I always related to INTP stuff.
But I ain't so cerebral so much.

It sounds more like you are able to UNDERSTAND emotions better now, which means you don't have to intellectualise emotional responses of others, because you understand their emotions directly.

So it sounds more like you're more like an INTP who is maturing and learning to understand his feelings.

 

[ZenRaiden]

Sounds like you're developing your inferior Fe.

Yeah, I was thinking that, but these emotions are so intense. I never had these.

In theory. But if you were using Ni & Fe now, then you'd be reacting like an INFJ, with the pros of an INFJ and the cons of an INFJ.

E.G. INFJs are continually upset by the actions of others, to the point where they avoid people all the time, and are even more unsociable and loners than INTPs.

I was and am upset, by a lot of stuff right now.

Ni-doms don't claim that understanding "just comes to them". But the way they ACT, is as if understanding just comes to them.

The perceptions of Ni-doms tend to also be CONVERGENT, i.e. they don't get many different insights. Instead, they have ONE insight, which is reinforced and confirmed many times.

That makes a lot of sense. So I had lot of Ti Ne shit happen probably. Its mostly self and people relational stuff, and experiential stuff.

It sounds more like you are able to UNDERSTAND emotions better now, which means you don't have to intellectualise emotional responses of others, because you understand their emotions directly.

So it sounds more like you're more like an INTP who is maturing and learning to understand his feelings.

Yeah, my personality was made of intellect.
I still intellectualize, but now when I intellectualize I actually understand I am doing it.
I definitely can fall on my emotions, but they are rusty as fuck. If you know what I mean.

So it sounds more like you're more like an INTP who is maturing and learning to understand his feelings.

Yeah I am learning a lot of new stuff about emotions. Its fucking weird experience.

Also thanks for clarifying. So I think I am still INTP.

I do like INFJs though, maybe I saw something relatable in them.

 

[LOGICZOMBIE]

I can understand now more, which is related to emotions, which obviously seems normal.

i know the feeling

you may not be able to immediately "explain" your intuitive emotional insights

and your emotional judgements (INTJ)

but you will be able to unpack them over time

and connect them with everything else

 

[LOGICZOMBIE]

Sounds like you're developing your inferior Fe.

bingo

 

[LOGICZOMBIE]

Neo is INTJ so if you are Ni it means you are more likely INTJ because of Te.

The Architect is INTP and Oracle is INFJ.

great example

 

[scorpiomover]

Sounds like you're developing your inferior Fe.

Yeah, I was thinking that, but these emotions are so intense. I never had these.

Other people have often remarked, both online and IRL, how, when INTPs have expressed their emotions, it's been very shocking to them, as the intensity of an INTP's expression of emotions seems to be much stronger and much more palpable than almost any other type.

In theory. But if you were using Ni & Fe now, then you'd be reacting like an INFJ, with the pros of an INFJ and the cons of an INFJ.

E.G. INFJs are continually upset by the actions of others, to the point where they avoid people all the time, and are even more unsociable and loners than INTPs.

I was and am upset, by a lot of stuff right now.

Me too.

But my INFJ sister would routinely ask me how someone she met could be so uncaring about other people's feelings to insult another person.

That's something I would not really be surprised at, as my readings of history showed me that people did a lot worse things than merely insult another person.

So it's just not the sort of thing I would say.

Judging by your posts, I suspect that you too wouldn't wonder at that. Would that be correct?

 

[ZenRaiden]

But my INFJ sister would routinely ask me how someone she met could be so uncaring about other people's feelings to insult another person.

Right that is not surprising. I do however trying to workout the motives people have sometimes.

 

[LOGICZOMBIE]

Yeah, I was thinking that, but these emotions are so intense. I never had these.

 

[LOGICZOMBIE]

an INTP's expression of emotions seems to be much stronger and much more palpable than almost any other type.

bingo

 

[birdsnestfern]

Wait, I do know that when you are in love, its like you see a whole new world of colors and everything is experienced like the highest mountain and the deepest ocean. Are you in love? Its like your head is suddenly in heavenly clouds and your heart is like thunderous storms and rain during sex, like you feel it in experiencing things in lucid color, the sky is bluer, the grass is greener, the flowers are brighter, its all intensely displayed and felt like you are being born.

Oh hey, I can definitely say as an INTP I experience intense raw emotions too, not all the time, but love is one of those times.
And sometimes unrequitted love makes it ten times worse. Waves of bodily climaxes (the entire body, not just the expected parts) come over you and it drives you nuts. Its like the whole spine and brain have waves through them.

I am pretty sure its from hormonal releases that haven't been tapped into before that need to come out. We must have so much built up energy in there that it just bursts out. All I can say is that with unrequitted love, it can take years to get it out of your system. Try to find ways to make it real or don't let yourself get into that spiral. It can burn you up pretty fast, if its not reciprocated. All I know is that in real relationships, I can't wait to skip to the comfortable phase and I usually try to get to that phase asap, because otherwise, its too intense.
This is probably why INTP's can seem a bit boring, because they seek to feel comfortable and get away from the intensity, because boring or anything except that intense feeling will get you there faster. And then, once you are comfortable and secure, thats the feeling that you really want. Acceptance and freedom.

 

[LOGICZOMBIE]

Oh hey, I can definitely say as an INTP I experience intense raw emotions too,

true

 

[ZenRaiden]

Yeah, I was thinking that, but these emotions are so intense. I never had these.

I have seen the movie, now I see their point. I saw it probably right after release. Its a good movie.

Wait, I do know that when you are in love, its like you see a whole new world of colors and everything is experienced like the highest mountain and the deepest ocean. Are you in love? Its like your head is suddenly in heavenly clouds and your heart is like thunderous storms and rain during sex, like you feel it in experiencing things in lucid color, the sky is bluer, the grass is greener, the flowers are brighter, its all intensely displayed and felt like you are being born.

Oh hey, I can definitely say as an INTP I experience intense raw emotions too, not all the time, but love is one of those times.
And sometimes unrequitted love makes it ten times worse. Waves of bodily climaxes (the entire body, not just the expected parts) come over you and it drives you nuts. Ha. Its not like other people. Its like the whole spine and brain have waves through them.

I am pretty sure its hormonal releases that haven't been tapped into before that need to come out. We must have so much built up energy in there that it just bursts out. All I can say is that with unrequitted love, it can take years to get it out of your system. Try to find ways to make it real or don't let yourself get into that spiral. It can burn you up pretty fast, if its not reciprocated. All I know is that in real relationships, I can't wait to skip to the comfortable phase and I usually try to get to that phase asap, because otherwise, its too intense. This is probably why INTP's can seem a bit boring, because they seek to feel comfortable and get away from the intensity, because boring or anything except that intense feeling will get you there faster. And then, once you are comfortable and secure, there is NOTHING else like it.

I am not in love.
None the less I am experiencing a lot of new emotions.

 

[birdsnestfern]

Can look up categories of desired feeling states. Well, I use the black dark castle background and you might have to change back to default white background to see this post.

The 27 emotions: admiration, adoration, aesthetic appreciation, amusement, anger, anxiety, awe, awkwardness, boredom, calmness, confusion, craving, disgust, empathic pain, entrancement, excitement, fear, horror, interest, joy, nostalgia, relief, romance, sadness, satisfaction, sexual desire, surprise.

What Are the 27 Basic Emotions? Effects on Physical Health

There are several theories that define the types of emotions in various ways. Learn about the 27 basic emotions and the effects of emotions on physical health.

www.medicinenet.com

A Guide To Emotions | Psychology Tools

A helpful guide to understanding your emotions and learning to manage them with cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) strategies.

www.psychologytools.com

 

[LOGICZOMBIE]

You feel more, you feel different you think different.

very INTP

 

[LOGICZOMBIE]

My feelings though made me different.

 

[ZenRaiden]

that is pretty hilarious.
Accountant was like Devil

 

[LOGICZOMBIE]

that is pretty hilarious.
Accountant was like Devil

"just facts and figures"

 

[LOGICZOMBIE]

that is pretty hilarious.
Accountant was like Devil

the original closing credits song was much better,