INTP forum and walls of text

[DJArendee]

So, I'm an ISTP. I like how serious people take this forum and don't troll one another.

I tried to participate in the forum. I think I made 1 thread, then had lots of INTP's post entirely too many words for me to have patience with.

I just don't have that much time to read mounds of text. I wish there was an ISTP forum where everyone gave 1 line answers. Though I doubt any ISTP has the patience to actually make one, haha.

Welp this thread is a pointless observation. Take it as you will. Wear the clothing I have provided, or throw it in the garbage. Good day.

 

[perkins]

tl;dr

 

[Dapper Dan]

A POINTLESS OBSERVATION IN MY INTP FORUM?!?!?

Nah, you'll fit in just fine. I'm pretty sure people with meaningful posts get kicked out after too many offenses.

 

[Meer]

Have you seen the little wheel between your left and right mouse buttons?

Uh, yeah.

 

[kantor1003]

I hope no one will "wear the clothing you have provided". The last thing the interwebs need is yet another place filled with thoughtless one liners. The nature of ones question should dictate the length of the replies. Interesting questions can rarely be addressed in a single sentence.
You like how "serious" people take this forum, but then go on to express your issues with the very thing which makes it seem "serious" to you (the length of posts). How odd

I wouldn't have anything against banning people that spend most of their time here posting one liners that add very little to the topic at hand. Nothing bothers me more than forums where I have to skim through five pages worth of superfluous posts before finally stumbling into a quality contribution.

 

[Fallenman]

It's an art form that is probably reserved for those who are in the habit of reading blocks of texts and then responding to them. It's not exactly a glamorous job but someone's got to do it, otherwise blocks of texts would float the web unanswered (as all blocks of text's have a question that deserves answering.)

I appreciate your attempt, as I am a connoisseur myself, and I feel as if not enough people write blocks of texts anymore . But perhaps it is best left to those with minds less sane than yours.

The clothes fit rather nicely, i think I will keep them . Thanks!

 

[P.H.]

Seriously though, how do you guys get those walls of text out of your head? Mine are quite comfortable up there and whenever I try to type them out I get all confused and stuff. Almost as if the clear line of thought gets messed up and it takes too long for me to untangle it, and consequently I give up and delete half my post because it's not making sense any more.

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[Cogwulf]

I have walls of text in my head, but I have an OCD-like drive for conciseness. Whenever I write simple sentences like this, I go through several iterations of it to find the shortest and clearest possible way of writing it.

I also loathe redundant and irrelevant information with the result that whenever I read a thread, walls of text go through my mind, but by the time I click "post" I can count the sentences that have survived the cull on one hand, and that's if I post anything at all; 9 times out of 10 I decide I just have nothing worth contributing.

 

[Dapper Dan]

I have walls of text in my head, but I have an OCD-like drive for conciseness. Whenever I write simple sentences like this, I go through several iterations of it to find the shortest and clearest possible way of writing it.

I also loathe redundant and irrelevant information with the result that whenever I read a thread, walls of text go through my mind, but by the time I click "post" I can count the sentences that have survived the cull on one hand, and that's if I post anything at all; 9 times out of 10 I decide I just have nothing worth contributing.

Yup. That's about right.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

I usually only have massive walls of text when I've come to some kind of a realization or have to explain something.

 

[Auburn]

Seriously though, how do you guys get those walls of text out of your head? Mine are quite comfortable up there and whenever I try to type them out I get all confused and stuff. Almost as if the clear line of thought gets messed up and it takes too long for me to untangle it, and consequently I give up and delete half my post because it's not making sense any more.

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Fortunately, this is not impossible to alleviate! ^___^

It is entirely possible for an INTP to, via practice, develop a beautiful and seamless stream of translation between their thoughts and their fingertips. It has a lot to do with Ne momentum and Fe articulation.

The key lies in letting go of Ti's grip on your mind, and trusting your intuition to flow. It'll seem completely bs to you for the first weeks or even months, because it won't meet Ti's standards of perfection.

But the trick of it is that Ne and Fe become more refined by a cycle of push/pushback. That is to say, the more you use them (push) the more refined they become as the creation of their own work gives them visible feedback (pushback) to learn from and adjust themselves.

They will develop enough dexterity with time that your Ti will go stop cringing, and in the long run it'll actually augment Ti's ability heavily since it now has full access to those resources -- so when it comes down to be serious about writing something perfectly, it'll be a total badass.

 

[Fallenman]

Lol Auburn, I feel like you described exactly what I went through to perfect my writing. I used to struggle with writing and I would try my hardest to be concise and be precise, but then when I got to a university i decided to dabble a little on the side of crazy. I just let my thoughts flow and when I would answer prompt questions i decided to approach it as a conversation and I just let myself go. Then I went back and edited it and refined it but over time I grew to just naturally flow with my writing.

Now it's just fun .

 

[Wizardry]

You want short then just stroll over to the INTJ forum. Simple. INTP's are longwinded and they usually say (type) a lot of words without actually saying anything.

 

[Otherside]

An INTP can express more meaning into one sentence than an INTJ could ever comprehend.

 

[EditorOne]

"I tried to participate in the forum. I think I made 1 thread, then had lots of INTP's post entirely too many words for me to have patience with.

I just don't have that much time to read mounds of text. I wish there was an ISTP forum where everyone gave 1 line answers."

It's not too many words. It's lack of a handy framework in your head with which to move from one word to another. We connect things. You collect them. Ours is easier to carry.

 

[Wizardry]

An INTP can express more meaning into one sentence than an INTJ could ever comprehend.

That really depends on the person and what all they have going on. Big problem with NTJ is there really is no reward in communicating what all they have going on. Its exhausting and sometimes there really is no neat way to try to explain it as its mostly impressions and words. INTP's can be just as stupid in their own ways and limited, called being a human more than particular type though.

 

[AureliaSeverina]

Huh? As an INTJ who tends to ramble, I always assumed that precise, yet abstract, one-liners where a hallmark of the INTP. In fact, I wish there were more walls of text on this forum.

 

[Cavallier]

It's not too many words. It's lack of a handy framework in your head with which to move from one word to another. We connect things. You collect them. Ours is easier to carry.

I really like how you explained this E1.

As for the original post, I used to think that I should take a speed reading course. Then I discovered that it just involves learning to hold longer passages of text in your head in a single moment. Instead of "reading" one word at a time you learn to read 3, 4, or more words until you are able to take in entire sentences and then entire paragraphs. Now it's just a matter of practice.

 

[EditorOne]

Thank you for the compliment on my turn of phrase. As my Celtic American forefathers used to say, collecting their fattening and semi-wild droves of swine from the summer feeding grounds in the oak forests, "even a blind pig will find an acorn once in awhile."

 

[Cogwulf]

I really like how you explained this E1.

As for the original post, I used to think that I should take a speed reading course. Then I discovered that it just involves learning to hold longer passages of text in your head in a single moment. Instead of "reading" one word at a time you learn to read 3, 4, or more words until you are able to take in entire sentences and then entire paragraphs. Now it's just a matter of practice.

I've been doing this since I was a child, I never even realised that there were courses for it.

 

[Cavallier]

^I find there are courses for pretty much everything. I once sat in on a course about rolling your R's just because I refused to belive there was a course on it.

 

[Fallenman]

It's not too many words. It's lack of a handy framework in your head with which to move from one word to another. We connect things. You collect them. Ours is easier to carry.

Ya, you expressed this well .

 

[Words]

Was it 2 years ago when I made the same thread? There's an unnecessary connection. There might be a correlation but not a causation. I'm pretty sure I'm INTP but I write short posts, unless I really want to explain something. The fact that I have to move my fingers to do this is also a very crucial factor. Efficiency over Effectiveness.

 

[Dapper Dan]

Huh? As an INTJ who tends to ramble, I always assumed that precise, yet abstract, one-liners where a hallmark of the INTP. In fact, I wish there were more walls of text on this forum.

The key here is this:
Just as we strive to understand things, we INTPs also strive to communicate that understanding to others. We are sometimes willing to post massive walls of text in order to complete this goal. However, we also realize that readability is crucial, so we revise furiously. The balance between content and clarity is hard to achieve, and can result in some very dense posts.

A simple topic will receive a simple reply. If the surrounding concepts are obvious, then this is the best way to get your point across.

A not-so-simple topic, on the other hand, will often require an INTP to communicate his understanding of the surrounding concepts. The more people reply, the more explanation and clarification is needed. Eventually you end up with single posts containing ten different walls of text, each one responding to individual sections of previous walls of text.

 

[zether]

The short answers are probably summaries of what we are actually thinking. That or someone else already said part/most of what we were about to say and repitition would be useless.

 

[Otherside]

Huh? As an INTJ who tends to ramble, I always assumed that precise, yet abstract, one-liners where a hallmark of the INTP. In fact, I wish there were more walls of text on this forum.

My posts are usually fairly concise. I can simultaneously be abstract, but I no longer find much usefulness in doing so.

 

[AureliaSeverina]

A simple topic will receive a simple reply. If the surrounding concepts are obvious, then this is the best way to get your point across.

A not-so-simple topic, on the other hand, will often require an INTP to communicate his understanding of the surrounding concepts. The more people reply, the more explanation and clarification is needed. Eventually you end up with single posts containing ten different walls of text, each one responding to individual sections of previous walls of text.

LOL. I suppose simple is relative, especially when you compare INTx types with the general populace

 

[Words]

Huh? As an INTJ who tends to ramble, I always assumed that precise, yet abstract, one-liners where a hallmark of the INTP.

Same here. My experiences in debate has INTJ's going on and on beyond the time-limit of explaining their standpoint and arguments, having this rationale that the more they say, the more credible things are or the more dots people could connect in relation to their comprehension of what the INTJ was saying. But when I speak or write text, I prefer it written in the form similar to an "equation" or a simplified equation: precise, short and on to the point.