INTP faults?

[Da Blob]

When I took the MBTI as a class assignment, part of the assignment was to take the negative aspects of my profile and make suggestions as to how to change my 'negative' tendencies. (Apparently, I haven't made much progress in this regard...)
Do we only have eight negative traits?


Typical Inappropriate Stress/ How I Can Do This Differently
Change Behaviors



Become opinionated

Keep my opinions to myself

Outbursts of Anger
Count to ten, realize that the people around me are usually inappropriate targets for my anger

Become Suspicious
Remember that suspicions rarely yield fruit and are a waste of time to cultivate

Take Criticism Personally
Remember that no one knows me well enough to criticize Me, personally. So criticism is directed at an action or a false image, so I never have to take criticism personally.

Analyze People as Things
People do not respond well to being considered as things, so I will not let them know how I think of them

Become Defensive, Thereby,
Initiating Offensive Behavior
I need to make sure that the attack is real and of hostile intent, before retaliating in kind.

Pessimism
I expect change to occur for the worst, change as threat, perhaps I should consider change as an opportunity for something good to happen

Bitterness
Being disappointed can lead to depression, so perhaps I should not have expectations that are unrealistic

 

[LucasM]

Thinking too much into things, finding things that are not there.

Maybe things are just simple.

 

[Ermine]

To be honest, any MBTI trait can be negative or positive. For example, with pessimism, it has a bad connotation, but I say it's better than being ignorantly optimistic.

 

[IfloatTHRUlife]

I let my negative side shine. And i love it.
1. Being opinionated- Most of my opinions are constructive criticism, which most of the time, a lot of people need.
2. Outbursts of anger- The only one i don't like, but im normally calm and collected so if it happens, chances are it was well deserved.
3. Become Suspicious- This one applies to me a lot, but i dont think of it that way, im just really aware.
4. Take criticism personally- Everything i do i do with such precision that most of the criticism i receive is emotionally based, which i don't like, or want to hear, so i rebel. But a little constructive criticism never hurt anyone.
5. Analyze people as things- People are things, so i cant help but analyze them as i would any other thing that crosses my attention.
6. Become defensive, etc. - My same response to the outbursts of anger applies here too.
7. Pessimism- I am a pretty adaptable person but taking any chances with the potential of making my life any worse are not worth it. If your not pessimistic chances are you either believe in destiny or are oblivious, neither of which sound good to me.
8. Bitterness - I have been bitter longer than i can remember, after a while it isn't so bad, its more entertaining then depressing.

Sure none of these traits are very acceptable socially... but who cares

 

[Agent Intellect]

i think number 4 is the only one i'm not too guilty of. i think lack of motivation and procrastination trumps all of these as my worst negative traits, though.

 

[bdubs]

Take Criticism Personally
Remember that no one knows me well enough to criticize Me, personally. So criticism is directed at an action or a false image, so I never have to take criticism personally.

Interesting. I had assumed that as a T, it was odd that I would take criticism somewhat personally. If this truely is a fairly common trait among INTP, then I can add another attribute into my list of simularities.

Beyond that, I would have to agree that I am guilty of all of those from time to time. The only one that I absolutly dislike is the sudden rush of the anger emotion. I am good at dealing with the feeling, but since I spend most of my day very near homeostatis emotionally, it can be difficult to contend with.

 

[Gorgrim]

i wanna be in my bubble of fault! well, i guess to some degree, all these 8 things strike against me sometimes.

Analyzing people as things in the open? or inside yourself? when does this example get you into problems with others? or yourself?

 

[IfloatTHRUlife]

Well a couple of times, i have been accused of being cold when mediating others arguments. I would tell both sides they were wrong and tell them their feelings didn't matter and that they were both just being dumb.

They never exactly said i was considering them as things but, that is pretty much what i was doing.

 

[Da Blob]

Well a couple of times, i have been accused of being cold when mediating others arguments. I would tell both sides they were wrong and tell them their feelings didn't matter and that they were both just being dumb.

They never exactly said i was considering them as things but, that is pretty much what i was doing.

Sounds like, you like me, missed out on the 'Tact and Diplomacy' class

 

[IfloatTHRUlife]

Very very true Blob

@ AI - Between the threads about how people think we look, and this thread, i have noticed alot of similarities between us.. not only our level of INTPness but our "mysterious INTP look". I have posted a picture of me in my user profile to let you all see my INTP madness with your own eyes, don't be startled.

 

[james]

I have all those things. I would add one more: tactless.

I just tell it how I see it.

 

[IfloatTHRUlife]

Agreed, someone actually mentioned that i lack tact in another post earlier today Lol.

 

[Da Blob]

Agreed, someone actually mentioned that i lack tact in another post earlier today Lol.

Yeah, it's weird, I was like 16 years old before I was even aware there was such a thing as tact. I witnessed my Grandmother criticizing a worker for the quality of his work, she said (knowing full well she was talking to the one responsible for the shoddy work) "You know whoever did the work on the north forty really messed it up..."
She was amazed when I started asking about her verbal "tactics", She said "Have you never heard of Tact..."

 

[IfloatTHRUlife]

I have tact, i am just too lazy and oblivious to use it. Lol Unless i am worried about hurting a persons feelings for whatever reason, then i ninja my point across.

 

[Gorgrim]

When it comes to a discussion, though, that is important to me or ticks me off abit, tact kinda goes out the window, I use it for more trivial subjects especially around feeling types for example.

I can see 1 main point in having tact in a discussion(not conversation) and that is when trying to get the feelers on your side. maybe in group , i don't really use it much. I've usually just said what i really meant or shut up. I think i could get alot more things said instead of shutting up with abit of clever tact and tone use

 

[Perseus]

I get accused of being reticient and withdrawn and living in my shell. When I get out of my shell, I get accused of being irritating and told to get into my shell again.

Green Turtle XNTP

 

[Perseus]

Replying to questions in mysterious animal metaphors
Not finishing my sentences
Interrupting conversations when not wanted
Not responding to manipulation in a predicted manner
Caustic acid remarks when irate
Staring at people (this one is without foundation)
Looking at people in a peculiar manner (response by Irrational SFs) *
Looking agitated as though I am high on drugs
Being incredibly untidy (not enough space)
Being of a friendly disposition (highly suspicious)

* This is called spooking the Horsemen

 

[Ermine]

@ bdubs,

This happens to me too. While I understand the need for criticism, it's very easy for me to get overemotional if my criticizers ever as much as imply that I'm inadequate. I usually try to combat this with other T traits that usually keep me sensible and cool as a cucumber.

 

[james]

"I have tact, i am just too lazy and oblivious to use it."

Exactly me, I just either just don't think it's big enough of a deal to be polite, or I just have no idea. Usually I am wrong on both fronts and thus would consider myself 'tactless' I suppose.

 

[bdubs]

@ bdubs,

This happens to me too. While I understand the need for criticism, it's very easy for me to get overemotional if my criticizers ever as much as imply that I'm inadequate..

I think you hit the proverbial nail on the head here. Attacks on my competency in areas that I feel strongly about tend to be the most damaging while other common attacks do not get to me nearly as effectively.

 

[Da Blob]

Replying to questions in mysterious animal metaphors
Not finishing my sentences
Interrupting conversations when not wanted
Not responding to manipulation in a predicted manner
Caustic acid remarks when irate
Staring at people (this one is without foundation)
Looking at people in a peculiar manner (response by Irrational SFs) *
Looking agitated as though I am high on drugs
Being incredibly untidy (not enough space)
Being of a friendly disposition (highly suspicious)

* This is called spooking the Horsemen

Yeah I'm also just a blank mirror
It amazes me when Others see all these
negative reflections...