INTP CANDY

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[ZenRaiden]

I had a recent conversation
disinformation today means = you are not allowed to think
conspiracy theory = you are not hip enough, though to be honest some conspiracy theories are crazy, many are at least partially true, even if misguided.
hoax = sometimes you are wrong and sometimes you are right. Who knew?

 

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Yes we are the fucking middle men of the past and the future.
It will either break us or build us up.
This song is 1988 lol truer now than before.

 

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The ultimate consumerism song.

 

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The ultimate consumerism song.

i didn't realize that was subversive

 

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i didn't realize that was subversive

I think it was more or less 90s rap song, message I got was "consumerism is shallow".

 

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just watch this and when you figure out which level sounds "stupid" and or "pretentious" then you're one below that - -
ok, yeah 8 turquoise is a good fit for me - except for the end where he says "and this is the best understanding available" samadhi - 11 ultraviolet - i've been there, but not often

 

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[fractalwalrus]

lol this thread makes me want to start one called "INTP FIBER"

We all require an explicit protection from government intervention. And it's not a contest over proportionality or even equality. A prospective pregnant female is an individual human being who first and foremost bears a right to herself. This is maintained for all individuals. I'm not going to argue some platitude that the zygote/embryo/fetus isn't human, or even, isn't a "life." I acknowledge that zygotes/embryos/fetuses are human beings. My response is: so what? The alleged "right to life" does not grant any individual to coerce the service of another. Zygotes/embryos/fetuses require their mother's womb for development--no doubt. But that need does not supersede their mother's prerogative.

https://www.debateart.com/forum/top...ion-everyone-is-missing?page=1&post_number=15

I can think of a couple of other arrangements that involve coercing the service of another that we collectively tolerate as a society. So long as homelessness is criminalized, and all lands not privately held are held by a state who has ruled that one cannot sustain themselves on public lands, then employment would fall under this category.

 

[fractalwalrus]

No. It proves the capacity of one to simulate a worm.

 

[fractalwalrus]

Ever wonder if certain messaging out there propagates specifically with the intent of encouraging birth rates to rise? Look at the collective implications of what people who are in charge of the microphones for a certain side of the political aisle are actually arguing for. So, first of all, there is an attempt to criminalize most abortion. Net result: more babies are born (I would imagine some would attempt to circumvent this, but some would likely end up being forced to go through with pregnancy). Then there is a "Great Replacement Theory," telling white people that they are not having enough children, and that people with varying degrees of melanin concentration will be shipped in to make up for the lack of said babies among whites. Net result: more white babies assuming that some people are actually inspired by the rhetoric to "do their civic duty." Next, you have a discouragement of sexual orientations and behaviors which do not produce children. Net result: well, there were times in the past when individuals with atypical orientations would be pressured into having more children, so probably more children. Then, you have the encouragement of traditional family roles and a denouncement of feminism. Desired net result: women feel like they have to have more children because it will be what they are told to do to fit in with the peers that hold this view (conformity pressure; more children. Ban porn as a sexual release valve. Net result (speculative): people will be pressured into sexual activities with a heterosexual partner which, if coupled with birth control bans, will increase the probability of, more babies. So, the question to ponder here is, who wants us to have more children, and why?

 

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who wants us to have more children, and why?

this is more about spreading fear

fear

always works to the advantage of the oligarchs


there is no solution to this


women and men already want an attractive mate


but on both sides, expectations are unrealistic


and almost nobody has the maturity to sustain a relationship more than a couple of years at most


so


outlawing abortion is not going to fix any of this

 

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who wants us to have more children, and why?

 

[fractalwalrus]

who wants us to have more children, and why?

Sometimes I ask questions that I have answers in reserve for, whilst remaining open to the answers of others, should they be closer to the truth. This video explains a conceptual answer that I have been exposed to before. Nonetheless, it is pertinent. Great illustration anyways.

 

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Sometimes I ask questions that I have answers in reserve for

more slaves for the back of the train perhaps ?

 

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more slaves for the back of the train perhaps ?

If only answers were the key to their freedom. Perhaps they are, but those answers have to originate from within (with some provocation) rather than from without. Otherwise, the answers sometimes have the undesired effect of strengthening the traincar walls:

 

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but those answers have to originate from within (with some provocation) rather than from without.

• Ask, don’t tell: Statements like “junk food makes you fat” and “smoking causes cancer” don’t change minds. Asking questions instead shifts the listener’s role, much like providing a menu does. Rather than counterarguing or thinking about all the reasons they disagree with a statement, they’re occupied with the task of answering the question (voicing their opinion about the issue — which most people are more than happy to do). Questions also increase buy-in. Because the answer they give is theirs, it’s more likely to drive them to action. Think about how “Do you think junk food is good for you?” would work better than the statement.

• Start with understanding: Ask questions that can help you better understand why the person is resistant. By really listening to the responses, and quoting them back to the respondent, you create trust. This approach takes time, but eventually you will discover the underlying needs and motivations that must be tapped to break through the resistance.

Changing Someone’s Mind: A Powerful New Approach – Wharton Executive Education

People push back when they feel they’re being influenced. These four proven tactics help guide people to make the choice you want them to make.…Read More

executiveeducation.wharton.upenn.edu

 

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but those answers have to originate from within (with some provocation) rather than from without.

• Ask, don’t tell: Statements like “junk food makes you fat” and “smoking causes cancer” don’t change minds. Asking questions instead shifts the listener’s role, much like providing a menu does. Rather than counterarguing or thinking about all the reasons they disagree with a statement, they’re occupied with the task of answering the question (voicing their opinion about the issue — which most people are more than happy to do). Questions also increase buy-in. Because the answer they give is theirs, it’s more likely to drive them to action. Think about how “Do you think junk food is good for you?” would work better than the statement.

• Start with understanding: Ask questions that can help you better understand why the person is resistant. By really listening to the responses, and quoting them back to the respondent, you create trust. This approach takes time, but eventually you will discover the underlying needs and motivations that must be tapped to break through the resistance.

Changing Someone’s Mind: A Powerful New Approach – Wharton Executive Education

People push back when they feel they’re being influenced. These four proven tactics help guide people to make the choice you want them to make.…Read More

executiveeducation.wharton.upenn.edu

An even more concise video about cognitive dissonance, though its prescription varies slightly from that of the vid I posted. Another (and much more energetically demanding approach) is to become close to the individual and build a relationship with them. This is not always practical, and certainly cannot result in mass change without an unimpeded domino effect.

 

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unimpeded domino effect.

i'm aiming for one mind a year

 

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Nom

 

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Something seemingly simple shown to have been synthetically showcased by the sapien synapse.

 

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