INTP and unjustified bad / negative thoughts in the head

[Absolute Spirit]

Hello to all !


First post here...
Any one else is now and again experiencing totally unjustified bad "thoughts" directed at people (foes, but ennoyingly friends and innocent people too !) in your vicinity ? Thoughts that suddenly appear out of nowhere in your head and that are the opposite of your own ethics ?

If so, what do you do to counteract them ? The more i fight against them, the more they come back. I was told to just watch them as if they were bad clouds just passing over but it doesn't work, i focus on them and tell myself i shouldn't be thinking those bad thoughts but that's wishful thinking...
Thanks for your time and help.

 

[Saywhatnow]

Yes. It is called Directed Energy Weapons used by scientists that gives them the ability to use infrared technology to beam thoughts into your head also known as voice to skull technology. But how can you prove that these are not your thoughts since you are having them? You can't. The courts and the justice system will not believe you either. Just make sure you don't act on them. That is your only defense. You can talk about your experience but if you go to see a psychologist, they will call you mentally ill and the psychiatrists will perscribe you medication designed to kill you.

 

[Saywhatnow]

Also go read my post about Virus of The Mind.

Remember, you are not your mind.

Become the master of it not the mind your master.

 

[Saywhatnow]

And religious people will think you are possessed.

 

[ummidk]

Yes. It is called Directed Energy Weapons used by scientists that gives them the ability to use infrared technology to beam thoughts into your head also known as voice to skull technology.

Sounds about right

Seriously though, it sounds to me like you over focus on these thoughts most likely perpetuating the cycle. I wouldn't say embrace them but don't get too worked up about it, and try to get out of your head a bit.

 

[Nebulous]

Sounds like intrusive thoughts.

Intrusive thoughts are frightening thoughts about what might happen to you or someone you care about, or what you might do to yourself or another person. They seem to come from outside of your control, and their content feels alien and threatening.

Everyone gets them sometimes, some people more than others (especially people with anxiety disorders or OCD).

They really suck. Don't beat yourself up over them though- you are not your thoughts.

I don't really know how to cope with them, music/other distractions help sometimes but other times I just end up freaking out and feeling really scared or otherwise uncomfortable. :/
Last night I couldn't sleep for hours because of them.

But yeah I get them

 

[Brontosaurie]

I used to really hate a lot of things about people. Their faces, gestures and prosodies. I collected synaesthetical impressions adding up to "vibes" or "auras" from which a wealth of interpersonal data could be extracted. I would know before thinking, and if i stopped to think i would always find a valid reason for my suspicion - typically some telltale sign of arrogance; of certain ludicrous expectations that preclude any authentic communication. The kind of stuff that is truly better dealt with by fist than by further reflection, the kind of stuff where spending the effort of analysis would amount to eating someone else's turd.

In retrospect i think i was very receptive and sensitive to people, but the world has taught me to be ashamed. It's taking a while to deal with having had so much of ones intuitive perspective and life experience dismissed as fantasy or a bad attitude by well-meaning adult figures.

Anyway i don't hate people like i used to. Practice and/or maturation has improved my skills in finding justification, redemption or sympathy in addition to spotting arrogance and delusion.

What are your bad thoughts?

 

[Grayman]

I hear my inner voice say nasty things about people but mostly people who are very obese or look like they are drug addicts. I think it stems from past negative experiences with people in the above two categories.

I hear it once every 3 to 4 months if that.

I usually ignore it and treat the people with respect.

 

[TheManBeyond]

i guess u mean something like this?
everyone does
and it can get really nasty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37eEUsd1ASA

 

[Urakro]

Like nebulous said, it sounds like intrusive thoughts.

Reinforcing neb's advice, I suggest to let the thoughts come. I can understand that they are disturbing, and I'm guessing you worry that they may change who you are. But you can allow them to come up to the surface, and still not give them any power by not being afraid of them.

You can be 2 steps ahead in this situation, just with belief. It's essence is made of only thought. It's a similar feedback loop of panic attacks, where a person is afraid of their own fear. There's nothing wrong with fear, it's natural and vital, and such as it is with thoughts.

I did go through some time with intrusive thoughts, but I believe it was chemically induced from a mix-up of psychiatric meds. The thoughts weren't going anywhere, nor was the dread I had of them. Trying to fix it in any way only made it worse, and the only option I had to minimalize their impact was to just accept it.

If you keep looking at the shadow on the wall, you'll keep seeing the shadow on the wall. It ain't going away, but that's ok. You'll find a way to reason this so that it's fine to have these thoughts, and the way you feel about them is alright as well. You aren't doing anything wrong. It heals on it's own, and I'd make a bet that eventually you'll get through this in one piece as well (even if it really seems unlikely right now).

 

[Absolute Spirit]

What are your bad thoughts?

It is quite various depending the circumstances but especially my mood (the more i am stressed the more those thoughts appear out of nowhere ; when i am relaxed i usually have zero of those thoughts) : they can go from wishing bad things to innocent people, rejoycing of bad things happening to people (for example my internal voice saying "You deserved it ! mwooahh !" and YET it is totally unjustified !) etc.

It is like having a dumb / angry 15 year old in my head (but its me).

 

[Absolute Spirit]

i guess u mean something like this?
everyone does
and it can get really nasty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37eEUsd1ASA

Well there is no images / pictures as such just (nasty) words...

 

[Absolute Spirit]

I hear my inner voice say nasty things about people but mostly people who are very obese or look like they are drug addicts. I think it stems from past negative experiences with people in the above two categories.

I hear it once every 3 to 4 months if that.

I usually ignore it and treat the people with respect.

That's exactly it ; when stressed, my inner voice does say nasty things about obese people or drug addicts, also some old people (the kind that shit themselves etc.)

When not stressed, i don't think those things about those people or anyone else...

Do you reckon that if i dig up there must be something remotely justified out of the apparently unjustified reasons of those thoughts ?

 

[Absolute Spirit]

You aren't doing anything wrong.

I am not doing anything wrong indeed but at times i do get caught in my (nasty) thinking process and do mean what i say or wish upon those innocent people...

However i don't feel guilty as such for thinking those things afterwards but more that i wish i could permanently stop them and feel better about it.

Before i start working on myself, my problems were what i was doing and what i was saying and what i was thinking but i didn't think there was anything wrong with it all. With 5 years of working on myself, my "only" problem is what at times i am thinking...

 

[Cipher]

The only preventive solution I know about is keeping your emotional balance. As you already noticed, these thoughts tend to come up when you are stressed and out of balance.

I usually handle them by just not taking them seriously.
My standard reaction to them goes like this: "Oh, here we go again. It seems like I'm stressed."
You could try to look at the situation from the perspective of the people in question and make clear to yourself that those thoughts don't have any rational basis, too.

As Saywhatnow said, you are not your mind. You might have to accept that sometimes your mind just comes up with stupid and irrelevant bullshit.