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INTJ likes using Ti?

the_intj

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I'm an INTJ

The function stack should go Ni, Te, Fi and Se.

However, I found myself using a lot of Ti a lot of time, which is a "shadow function" as defined in socionomics.

For example, I'm using Ti when I'm thinking about everything ranging from how economic systems/governments work, how computers work etc via reading books/papers/internet articles etc...

Is it normal for an INTJ to use Ti (one of the shadow functions)?
 

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Yes it is normal for an INTJ to use Ti because MBTI theory is shady at best.
 

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I'm an INTJ
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For example, I'm using Ti when I'm thinking about everything ranging from how economic systems/governments work, how computers work etc via reading books/papers/internet articles etc...

From the description it's not clear what you are using, but it sounds more like Te (analyzing the external world) rather than Ti (ordering the internal world)

The Eight Functions (Typology 201) Pt 1

The Eight Functions (Typology 201) Pt 2

Extraverted Thinking (Te)

TJ types use Extraverted Thinking (Te) as their dominant or auxiliary function. Te involves the outward expression of rational judgments and opinions; TJs literally think (i.e., make judgments, conclusions, and decisions) aloud. Te is more fact-oriented than Ti is. STJs, in particular, see the world as composed of discrete, black-and-white parts. This allows them to institute clear definitions, objective standards, and measurable goals. While Ti is forever backtracking to question and clarify underlying ideas and assumptions, Te is more positivistic and forward-moving, working to improve definitions, plans, policies, classifications, procedures, etc. It carefully spells out how to get from here to there, using as many maps, labels, and instructions as necessary. The modern world, characterized by a snowballing of laws and bureaucracy, might be viewed as stemming from an unchecked Te.

Introverted Thinking (Ti)

TP types use Introverted Thinking (Ti) as their dominant or auxiliary function. Since Ti is introverted, TPs are reluctant to express their rational judgments outwardly. Ti is used to bring structure and order to TPs’ inner world. This inner structuring grants them a strong sense of inner control. Inwardly, TPs are highly self-disciplined, working to independently manage their thoughts in a way that allows them to better cope with life. TPs (especially NTPs) are less interested in working with facts than with ideas. Jung writes of the ITP: “His ideas have their origin not in objective data but in his subjective foundation.” ITPs are constantly digging into the background of their own thoughts in order to better understand their origins and to ensure their thinking is founded on clear and logical ideas. They see it pointless to try to build a system of thought on a dubious conceptual platform, making them slower than Te types to rush into experiments in order to discover more “facts.” This is especially true of NTPs, who find it easier to identify inconsistencies or logical shortcomings—to assert what is not true—than to identify and confidently assert what is true. While their skepticism is often broad and liberal, their positivism is minimal and conservative.
 

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"Shady at best" is a play on words. You know this.

Ballin'.
 

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Lot of ISTPs on this forum.

Typical for an INTP forum. Oddly they don't start their own forums instead preferring to slum with us.
 

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Is there anything specifically that indicates Ti here? These all sound consistent with Te to me.
 

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From the description it's not clear what you are using, but it sounds more like Te (analyzing the external world) rather than Ti (ordering the internal world)

The Eight Functions (Typology 201) Pt 1

The Eight Functions (Typology 201) Pt 2
thanks for informative reply!

well, i would say im either using Ti or Te depending on the situation.

The time when I use Te:
When I have a clear objective, such as acing the finals exam, then I would use my Te alot to externalize my thoughts, drawing conclusions from multiple external sources, and try to think outloud so that I can jump from ideas to ideas to make my revision as possible. For example, I would say "this algebra equation would lead to the calculus deduction, then you need differentiate it to find the gradient etc (high school level), and then you need to do this and that and wtever) :smoker:

Planning
I have a strict plan of what I should do today and the day after, and the month after etc and I stick to the plan.

The role of Ni
I think the reason I use Te is because of Ni. Ni gives me a clear vision of what I want to achieve in the end.


The time I may use Ti:
After my finals exam, I do not have a clear objective as to what step I should take next. So I have spent alot of time reading MBTI, personality theories, analyzing them and breaking the ideas down to see if the conclusions made by multiple sources make sense or not. (SUPER NERD!!!!)

So:
-I do not think out loud this time, and
-learning is purely to do with satisfying my thirst of gaining knowledge, not for getting good grades or satisfying my boss :D

It does not contribute to any goal (not triggered by my Ni) that I would like to achieve.
 
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