Interesting old post I made years ago on a different forum. Good read I think

[somfoolishfoole]

The following post was written by me about 3 years ago. It was written on a different forum than this one. I found it to be an interesting read. It was especially interesting comparing my thoughts then and my thoughts now.
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I'm contemplating suicide for not so much emotional reasons so much as logic. Even when I'm happy (which is not right now I'll admit) I still feel suicide would be the better option.



------Faithlessness-------


Any smart person knows that no religeon exists, I think this theory is about as truthfull as the theory of gravity, sure it COULD be wrong but I doubt it. Having no faith and beleving that I simply cease of have my conciousness on the world, I am not afraid of death as I will one day die and it won't be any different to dieing now.
------Family-------


I struggle with empathy. I don't give two sh**ts about tragic events that don't directly affect me. I'm dyspraxic and I THINK that has something to do with it. For example if a friends mother died, sure I would try to be there for them and I'd pretend to care, but in reality it doesn't phase me in the slightest.

I would get over it very quickly were a close family member to die, but then again I don't like (almost hate) most of my family tree.

My father has asbergers syndrome and is just about the stupidest person I know. He cant listen to what someone is telling him long enough to take in a logical arguement. He is incapable of common sence and has his priorities all wrong. Cleanliness is just about his topmost of priorities. He will interupt me from last minuite cramm study for a university exam to go and tidy my room. It is imperritive above all things that I am in bed by 11:30 (I'm 20 and I still have a bedtime). My father just the other night was shocked to find out that stars are actually other suns and that some of them are even BIGGER than the sun.....

My mother is a horrible vindictive woman, none of my friends like her. She has ZERO respect for privacy and, for some reason I've never figured out, seems to go out of her way to invade privacy. She is quick to point out peoples flaws in a blunt manner (irony here I'll admit) and she is manipulative to the point that my caution level around her of what I say and do is near schizophrenic. You never know when you will let something slip just gossiping that she will twist and before you know it you have stabbed a friend in the back unintentionally.

My Nana (thank god she died a few weeks ago) was the clear creation of mum and is everything mum is but worse. My nana will be having a casual conversation with you and then BLAM she will go strait for the jugular. an example: my grandparents had been living in our house and I walked out of the bathroom having just dried my hands on the towel that happened to be there at the time, and just as I walked out she screamed at me "don't you DARE use my towel again! EVER!". Another time my mother offered for my girlfriend to join us for tea and then just as grandad was serving dinner I mentioned that we needed another plate. My nana grew a stern look on her face and said in a discusted voice "how rude to announce another guest after dinner has already started getting served" which put my girlfriend in such a spot she cried.

My grandad is the grandist stoic you have ever met. His wife just died and his house got destroyed in the christchurch earthquakes and I havn't seen him so much as complain, whimper or cry once.

My dads brothers and sisters I don't see or care to see.

My mothers sister is a heavenly refuge of such a crap family tree and is the best aunt you could hope for, her son is equally so and he is possibly my best friend despite being 5 years older than me.

My dads mother was just strait up strange. My mothers first dinner with dads parents was a strange occasion. During the entire dinner, it was insisted by dads mother that all conversation would be held in french, despite the fact that she was the only one at the table who was able to speak any french at all.

My grandad on my father's side was senile before I was born.



-------Lack of faith in humanity-------



I can't stand the stupidity of MOST people. It's mind numbing to think just how many peoplethere are that have no curiosity, believe what they are told and never question it. All religeon should have been ruled out as myth decades ago. We have enough knowledge of the nature of the universe now to provide all bar proof that religeon is bollucks.
The economy directly makes people strive for selfish gain and not care about the good of the human race or even the nation they live in. The world should be united by now, in the common interest of progress and technology, rather than fighting over crude oil and worsening global warming. I'm not a smart person, I failed school by a long shot and I am struggling with uni, but I know more about the nature of the universe that we live in than probably 30 of your average persons put together. I don't have any close relationships (be it friend family or other) with anyone who is what I deem "smart"(not book smart but open minded I guess is a better way of phrasing it).



--------No interest in being part of a sick society that is compulsory------



I have zero interest in taking part in society. Why should i spend 40 hour of my week for the rest of my life doing work so that I can earn bits of paper that are deemed to have value by governments. Governments by the way whose laws I was born into and had no say or sway in. From the moment I was born, I had no right to live like a primitive human (food, shelter, land and clothing all require a lot of money). The laws are invented by those in power and are enforced by a false sence of moral obligation to uphold the law and the threat of captivity (prison) which would be hell. Even in New Zealand, which I thought was one of the more civil countrys, there is rape and abuse in prisons on a regular basis. I read an article about "escaping the system" and this guy managed to live on $4000 a year (which still has to come from somewhere) but just to live this close to out of the system he was eating out of trash cans and practising other unsanitary and undignified habbits.

quite apart from the moral objection to this. I am quite a lazy person and I would sooner just commit suicide than be forced to work 40 hours labour for my whole life before dieing. I am too "smart" (if you will) to be able to handle 40 ours a week of labour, yet I'm too dumb to succeed in education. I'm trapped, I beleve, by being smart but dyspraxic meaning I'm intelligent but my capacity to learn is limited, so I fail any attempts at education I partake in in hopes of avoiding low paid boring work.


------Lack of empathy------


I think I skipped over this earlier, but I don't possess much empathy. I don't care for those who will be affected by my suicide, in fact, I would seemany of those who are closest to mesuffer (even though I won't see it which is all the more reason why I don't care how they take it)


-------Stuck at home-------


I am stuck living at home because I can never hold a job for very long (I cant stand working, it is suicidingly depressing)
even if I manage to pass the uni degree I am currently doing. Thatwould leave me at home for another 10 or so years to finish my study. 10 Years of no freedom living amongst people I despise.


-------Counciling-------


Councellors only seek to diagnose me as either depressed or not depressed and I don't get horrifically depressed, there are certainly others worse off than me.So all I get is the implied "Why are you complaining? You aren't 'depressed'"

any councellor that I open up to turns against me and puts pressure on me to stop being lazy and and they just dismiss all my views as invalid because they can't see the flaw in the system like I do. I get encouraged to get off my ass and get a job (which only presses me closer to suicide).


-------Ambition------


My two ambitions in life are A: to see what technology and knowledge unfolds in my lifetime and B: to become a research scientist and be at the front line of new discoverys (at this point I'm favoring biochemistry). My dream to become a scientist is a dim chance as I struggle to learn beyond the trivial fun facts of science. My ambition to see the world unfold is not enough to wait a lifetime of unhappiness to see before I die at which point it doesn't matter anyway what I did and did not see.


--------friends--------

I don't have any friends that I relate well to. I have friends that I can have a good time with but noone to have intelligable conversations with. Everyone is too damn stupid.

I was talking with an aquaintance about the possibility of time travel, based on the false premise I had at the time, thinking that wavelenge was at all related to the speed of light. Long story short, I argued that perhaps red light travels faster than white light (thought came from looking at the light spectrum) and, right around this time, a friend of mine piped up unjokingly "well it makes sence because they say red cars travel faster than other cars". Another friend of mine thought the moon was about the size of a car.



------End-----


I can't really think of anything else to wrap it up so I'll leave it at that. My reasons for a logical suicide.

 

[Cherry Cola]

You can be intelligent and religious, there are plenty of examples. Spinoza and Kierkegaard for instance. Hell Spinoza's religiosity may be such just because of semantic trivialities though.

In any case you can generalize but you can't say that people are stupid for believing, it's just how people are.

About the rest of your post; It all sounds horrible and I'm betting more than my two cents on that your conclusions are consequences of the life you have been and are living. I mean come on just look at it, you have to admit there's a chance that it is so and that your suicidal tendencies aren't sprung from a wholly discrete existentialism (if there ever was one).

I say you need to switch scenery, challenge yourself. Move out, and move into whatever you can find, don't be picky. Try to find friends that are on your level too, surely there must be third placey groups of people around with your interests?

And finally, you are not unique in lacking empathy in the way you describe. Most people aren't as empathic as they think anyway.

One a sidenote, funny thread title. "Interesting read" is the descript and then what follows is a long text that is all about you lol, you do keep scoring them narci points alright mate.

 

[redbaron]

Any smart person would realise that personal ideologies are an incomplete indicator of intelligence.

 

[Cherry Cola]

That is a vastly superior maxim yes. And besides people are multifaceted creatures, judging for instance, Evola by his political ideology alone might leave one with the impression of an idiot madman without a basic grasp of reality. Alas a grasp he has. And besides one needn't always grasp at reality to be brilliant.

 

[Jennywocky]

Your family (except for the mentioned aunt and cousin) do sound rather nuts. it would be enough to drive anyone to the edge of frustration and beyond.

I disagree on your very first point. Try different scopes. Yes, in one particular scope (big picture, universal scale), your life and death have no intrinsic meaning; stars will burn, planets will revolve, you're just a blip of life that very quickly snuffs it.

However that portion of a century (however long it is) in which you actually have the ability to interact with the universe DOES have meaning ... albeit temporary... to you personally, during that particular time period. You experience things; you think things; you experience joy and pain, desire and apathy. There are various "scopes" of meaning, and sometimes it's helpful to view life through a variety of them.

As far as being stuck at home, well, sometimes in life you have to choose between lesser evils, more discomfort vs less. Do you hate the job more than you hate your family? It sounds like it, as you choose to live with your crazy family vs enduring the discomfort of working. It's a choice, the only one you have right now, and you make it daily, whether or not you happen to like that particular choice of options. Does staying with the family provide any opportunities that can expand your life later? Would working providing you with more freedom to expand your options later? Which is the better long-term evil, to reach a happier place?

I know some of this might be outdated now, since your ideas are three years old.

 

[DrGregoryHouse]

interesting/ thought provoking post, definitely.

scary? thought:

the older you get the more you realize that (generally) people are exactly like their parents/ grandparents.

not so scary thought:
and the older you get the more you are at peace with this.

 

[somfoolishfoole]

cherry cola seemed to miss the part where I said this post was 3 years old. I jst found it interesting to again read a deep personal excerpt of my mindset of that time.

 

[Latte]

Interesting read.

It would probably be laborious to do, but if you textually analyze the you from back then based on that post and comment about how perspectives have changed and how, that inner journey would be even more interesting to read

 

[Pyropyro]

I really like how one is so smart to work yet so dumb to succeed in education.

A little dose of "try to support yourself" would do the trick.

 

[not]

I think it is interesting reading this post in juxtaposition of some of your recent posts. Working out. Reading books. Ambition to start mega corporations. I strangely relate to the dichotomy. I find myself bouncing from having ambitions, and high expectations, to questioning the point of it all. I don't have any answers... I just relate to your quandary. In the end, maybe there is no logic to sticking around. But possibly living doesn't have to be logical to have meaning.

One thing I disagree with is with the notion that current science has developed to a point where we can dismiss all notions of spirituality. I am no defender of religion. But there is truth in many myths. Every day we discover that something long thought of as pure myth turns out to be real. The finding of the lost city of Troy comes to mind. I think many myths from our distant path will be rectified with science, especially once people stop taking everything so literally and realize some myths are coded metaphors.

 

[The Gopher]

That said I haven't actually read the post so I cannot verify if this is true or... not.

 

[somfoolishfoole]

Interesting read.

It would probably be laborious to do, but if you textually analyze the you from back then based on that post and comment about how perspectives have changed and how, that inner journey would be even more interesting to read

if someone pm's me teaching me how to multiquote, I will do this

 

[Minuend]

It's the button next to the "quote" at the bottom of each post. Click it on all the posts you want to quote and they will all appear when you click "reply to thread" later

Editing in for viewer satisfaction

Pink circle around quote button that adds these tags. Highlight text and click button

 

[The Gopher]

Well that is muliquote but to multiquote the same post you need to use tags. Which... both dissipated when I quoted nothing...

 

[somfoolishfoole]

I'm contemplating suicide for not so much emotional reasons so much as logic. Even when I'm happy (which is not right now I'll admit) I still feel suicide would be the better option.

I still hold an acceptance to death at all times. If death were to approach me at any moment, I would embrace it with a calm accepting smile. Though at any given moment I do not feel suicidal, I do get suicidal thoughts still when I get upset. Suicide seems to be the first thing my mind options as a solution to unfavourable situations or emotions.

------Faithlessness-------


Any smart person knows that no religeon exists, I think this theory is about as truthfull as the theory of gravity, sure it COULD be wrong but I doubt it. Having no faith and beleving that I simply cease of have my conciousness on the world, I am not afraid of death as I will one day die and it won't be any different to dieing now.

I still maintain certainty that god does not exist, It's just fact, I don't feel like its my duty to explain this standpoint. I have my reasons, they are concrete and there really is no doubt at all, its not opinion, its fact. just fact that many people are not aware of.
Having said that, I have removed the prejudice that being religous is akin to being stupid. I have since learnt that other people just have different interests. they may be lacking in understanding of science, but I'm certain I have equally distorted views on other things that they may find obvious.

------Family-------


I struggle with empathy. I don't give two sh**ts about tragic events that don't directly affect me. I'm dyspraxic and I THINK that has something to do with it. For example if a friends mother died, sure I would try to be there for them and I'd pretend to care, but in reality it doesn't phase me in the slightest.

I realize now that this has nothing to do with dyspraxia. Turns out I might be sociopathic. If anything I have gotten worse by feeling self assured in my right to not give a shit about others problems.

I would get over it very quickly were a close family member to die, but then again I don't like (almost hate) most of my family tree.

I have begun to get more realistic about the implications of the death of a family member. my previous views encompassed nothing more than the absence of that abhorrent person. I have since realized that many more things would be affected and this would be quite rattling to the world around me.
But if I do just focus on losing a family member without the implications of this, the sheer emotion of losing the person, would still not bother me.

My hate for my family has simmered out a little as i realized that people are different and people don't all care about the same things that I care about but that they can still have good traits.

My father has asbergers syndrome and is just about the stupidest person I know. He cant listen to what someone is telling him long enough to take in a logical arguement. He is incapable of common sence and has his priorities all wrong. Cleanliness is just about his topmost of priorities. He will interupt me from last minuite cramm study for a university exam to go and tidy my room. It is imperritive above all things that I am in bed by 11:30 (I'm 20 and I still have a bedtime). My father just the other night was shocked to find out that stars are actually other suns and that some of them are even BIGGER than the sun.....

my dad is still stupid. No brain transplant has occured.

My mother is a horrible vindictive woman, none of my friends like her. She has ZERO respect for privacy and, for some reason I've never figured out, seems to go out of her way to invade privacy. She is quick to point out peoples flaws in a blunt manner (irony here I'll admit) and she is manipulative to the point that my caution level around her of what I say and do is near schizophrenic. You never know when you will let something slip just gossiping that she will twist and before you know it you have stabbed a friend in the back unintentionally.

I have started to hold up my end of civility and respect, and it has made her a bit nicer. she is still a horrible person at her core though.

My Nana (thank god she died a few weeks ago) was the clear creation of mum and is everything mum is but worse. My nana will be having a casual conversation with you and then BLAM she will go strait for the jugular. an example: my grandparents had been living in our house and I walked out of the bathroom having just dried my hands on the towel that happened to be there at the time, and just as I walked out she screamed at me "don't you DARE use my towel again! EVER!". Another time my mother offered for my girlfriend to join us for tea and then just as grandad was serving dinner I mentioned that we needed another plate. My nana grew a stern look on her face and said in a discusted voice "how rude to announce another guest after dinner has already started getting served" which put my girlfriend in such a spot she cried.

nothing to add here. nana was a bitch.

My grandad is the grandist stoic you have ever met. His wife just died and his house got destroyed in the christchurch earthquakes and I havn't seen him so much as complain, whimper or cry once.

strangely enough, he has turned 180 complains all the time now, to be fair he has shingles, that sucks. he has plenty to complain about so i don't judge him on this

My dads brothers and sisters I don't see or care to see.

this was phrased badly. I simply do not know them, they live in a different country and i have no memorys of meeting them.

My mothers sister is a heavenly refuge of such a crap family tree and is the best aunt you could hope for, her son is equally so and he is possibly my best friend despite being 5 years older than me.

these 2 are both cool. aunty i've come to realize is quite immature and doesn't seem to take responcibility for her actions, but hey, thats what makes auntys fun right?

My dads mother was just strait up strange. My mothers first dinner with dads parents was a strange occasion. During the entire dinner, it was insisted by dads mother that all conversation would be held in french, despite the fact that she was the only one at the table who was able to speak any french at all.

My grandad on my father's side was senile before I was born.

nothing to add.

-------Lack of faith in humanity-------



I can't stand the stupidity of MOST people. It's mind numbing to think just how many people there are that have no curiosity, believe what they are told and never question it. All religeon should have been ruled out as myth decades ago. We have enough knowledge of the nature of the universe now to provide all bar proof that religeon is bollucks.

I've now accepted that people are not stupid, they simply do not hold my same interests. the only reminant of this thought mechanism is that i still find people to be very ignorant to the idea that they are sometimes wrong.
I still think there is proof that religeon is bollucks, anyone who searches for it in the right places, with the right attitude, will find it. watch a few youtube videos debunking religeon. after you have watched 5 or 6 of the good ones, there really should be no doubt left in your mind.

The economy directly makes people strive for selfish gain and not care about the good of the human race or even the nation they live in. The world should be united by now, in the common interest of progress and technology, rather than fighting over crude oil and worsening global warming.

I think i accepted this a bit more when I got my head around just how primitive we are. we think we are smart, which only stands testiment to how primitive we are. the phrase "only human" comes to mind.

I'm not a smart person, I failed school by a long shot and I am struggling with uni, but I know more about the nature of the universe that we live in than probably 30 of your average persons put together. I don't have any close relationships (be it friend family or other) with anyone who is what I deem "smart"(not book smart but open minded I guess is a better way of phrasing it).

If I can fling a counter arguement at my past self... "a guy in china knows more chinese vocabulary than 100 random new zealanders combined. its about relevance. If science is not relevent to someone, why should they know as much about it as i do?"



--------No interest in being part of a sick society that is compulsory------

I have zero interest in taking part in society. Why should i spend 40 hour of my week for the rest of my life doing work so that I can earn bits of paper that are deemed to have value by governments. Governments by the way whose laws I was born into and had no say or sway in. From the moment I was born, I had no right to live like a primitive human (food, shelter, land and clothing all require a lot of money). The laws are invented by those in power and are enforced by a false sence of moral obligation to uphold the law and the threat of captivity (prison) which would be hell.

@ past self, the system is not perfect, but neither are humans and neither are you. YES NEITHER ARE YOU, you are not half as smart as you think you are.

I still think prison is fucked up. ppl need to learn that whether you are a victum or aggresor, you are still human, you still make fuck ups, and captivity, rape and beatings still suck. people need to stop labeling people as "CRIMINAL" and then stripping from them all human rights and treating them in inhumane ways.

Even in New Zealand, which I thought was one of the more civil countrys, there is rape and abuse in prisons on a regular basis. I read an article about "escaping the system" and this guy managed to live on $4000 a year (which still has to come from somewhere) but just to live this close to out of the system he was eating out of trash cans and practising other unsanitary and undignified habbits.

perhaps a government program for homeless people help and rehabilitation would be a solution. teach them how to care for themselves, motivate themselves, and progress themselves.

quite apart from the moral objection to this. I am quite a lazy person and I would sooner just commit suicide than be forced to work 40 hours labour for my whole life before dieing. I am too "smart" (if you will) to be able to handle 40 ours a week of labour, yet I'm too dumb to succeed in education. I'm trapped, I beleve, by being smart but dyspraxic meaning I'm intelligent but my capacity to learn is limited, so I fail any attempts at education I partake in in hopes of avoiding low paid boring work.

I'm not "too dumb" for education. education sucks and it failed me. I am now back in education and it still sucks and is far from perfect but, I am utilizing this new thing called determination to help me succeed, Its going great. I have taken steps towards being less lazy.

------Lack of empathy------


I think I skipped over this earlier, but I don't possess much empathy. I don't care for those who will be affected by my suicide, in fact, I would see many of those who are closest to mesuffer (even though I won't see it which is all the more reason why I don't care how they take it)

lack of empathy doesnt matter, I have developed superior objective reasoning to deal with situations that call for empathy. It is less effective on the more subtle, caring things. but i think more effective in the big scale, caring for humanity as a whole.

-------Stuck at home-------


I am stuck living at home because I can never hold a job for very long (I cant stand working, it is suicidingly depressing)
even if I manage to pass the uni degree I am currently doing. Thatwould leave me at home for another 10 or so years to finish my study. 10 Years of no freedom living amongst people I despise.

home is not so terrible now, as i am studying economics, i have a discussion point to share with dad. dad is a natural at economics, i wouldnt call him genius but stil, I'm now learning concepts hes known for years. Mum and i get along ok now. overall i don't mind living here, i keep up my end of things, they are in turn nicer people. I will be finished study in 6 months or unless i continue onwards.

-------Counciling-------


Councellors only seek to diagnose me as either depressed or not depressed and I don't get horrifically depressed, there are certainly others worse off than me.So all I get is the implied "Why are you complaining? You aren't 'depressed'"

any councellor that I open up to turns against me and puts pressure on me to stop being lazy and and they just dismiss all my views as invalid because they can't see the flaw in the system like I do. I get encouraged to get off my ass and get a job (which only presses me closer to suicide).

I probably never found the right councelor. I think this would be worth doing.


-------Ambition------

My two ambitions in life are A: to see what technology and knowledge unfolds in my lifetime and B: to become a research scientist and be at the front line of new discoverys (at this point I'm favoring biochemistry). My dream to become a scientist is a dim chance as I struggle to learn beyond the trivial fun facts of science. My ambition to see the world unfold is not enough to wait a lifetime of unhappiness to see before I die at which point it doesn't matter anyway what I did and did not see.

well... my ambition got bigger. billionair mass scale grand philanthripist world changer is the game plan now. step 1, make money. step 2, use that money to make more money. step 3 hoard and be a selfish prick with my money and dont spend e.g make more money. step 4. hire team of brilliant minds to help fix a selected world problem, start small. fix world starvation or something

really my ambition exceeds my immagination... quite litterally. I cant even immagine how/what I will do to change things, but i will find a way or die trying, which is fine too.

--------friends--------

I don't have any friends that I relate well to. I have friends that I can have a good time with but noone to have intelligable conversations with. Everyone is too damn stupid.

still an issue.

I was talking with an aquaintance about the possibility of time travel, based on the false premise I had at the time, thinking that wavelenge was at all related to the speed of light. Long story short, I argued that perhaps red light travels faster than white light (thought came from looking at the light spectrum) and, right around this time, a female friend of mine piped up unjokingly "well it makes sence because they say red cars travel faster than other cars". Another female friend of mine thought the moon was about the size of a car.

yeah.. I had sex with both of these girls. Giggity.

------End-----


I can't really think of anything else to wrap it up so I'll leave it at that. My reasons for a logical suicide.

 

[Valentas]

If your uni friends are stupid, you are going to wrong uni. At my uni, even my roommates are into taling about science stuff. We spent two hours last week talking about Big Bang and where did that dense point of mass came from...

I like your perspective on death because it is great in calming you down. Death will come some day. No one knows when. And this is the reason why no one should be afraid of dying because you won't care about that anyways lol.

I feel for you if your family is so far away from your interests. My father is not into discussing science or abstract ideas but he's very smart person who is 'street smart' and he taught me a lot of stuff from cooking to fixing the house. Also he deals with people regularly and I could see him tired after each day because he hates most people too. ;D

What is wrong in living at home? Should you follow the lead of young people who takes a mortgage from inflated housing market and then, when crisis strikes, will be thrown away from their house because they have 1/20 left to pay and inflation destroyed their ability to ever pay off exponential debt? Meh. I like your thoughts about paper money also. It's a blatant scam of harvesting worthless ink on paper which have a 100% tendency in history to become worthless. I had thoughts about building a company and paying workers and clients only in bitcoin or gold/silver. Everything else is just a future time bomb to explode in people faces.

 

[Cherry Cola]

@somfooly Yeah somehow missed that, fail. Glad to hear you're doing better now.

Also, totally agree with you about criminality etc. Apart from not producing functional citizens to the degree that they should, keeping prisoners is expensive as fuck.

There is nothing rational about retribution whatsoever - harsher penalties do not reduce crime either, generally speaking - criminals should be treated so that they can rejoin society not punished to restore some kind of abstract balance in the universe (justice.. A pretty word for a petty thing).

Finally, the suffering of the wicked is just as bad as that of the good, the moral nature of a qualic agent does not effect his or hers experiences. When people say they want to torture rapists or whatever I cringe. So much of it is random too, that is, what makes a criminal. I don't think it likely that most people are born with a set level of morality in some kind of good and bad dichotomous spectrum. Geez.

In my eyes the fact that you are wise enough to transcend petty retributive thinking alone raises your moral character more than a few steps ^^

 

[DelusiveNinja]

I wonder if I am the only one who looked to see if he made this about three years ago and found that it was first published 2 years, 2 months, 30 days ago.

 

[Pyropyro]

I wonder if I am the only one who looked to see if he made this about three years ago and found that it was first published 2 years, 2 months, 30 days ago.

I guess the OP has a weird way of rounding off numbers

 

[somfoolishfoole]

yeah my bad. op does have a weird way of rounding off numbers .