In the grip of my inferior (Fi)

[ILYGodney]

Currently I'm an ENTJ but I seem to have more Fi than I do Se or Ni. I'm constantly making judgments whether they're based on my ethics or efficiency. I never really spend time collecting information.

I have a lot of strong values that are based entirely on how I feel. I think that having values that are dependent on how others feel is wrong. I feel much more secure and authentic relying on my own personal moral code. I also don't like sharing anything personal about myself and have no desire to connect with others. I'd rather submerge myself in my own feelings and paint a picture based on those feelings than actually talk about them. I remember when I was depressed when I was younger and absolutely nobody could figure out what I felt and why even though I thought it was really obvious.

I hate constantly collecting information when it comes to making decisions. I want to make decisions right away. I also always need a plan. I live my life according to some planning journals I have and a couple of goals. I try to use my time and resources as efficiently as possible and achieve my goals in a clearly defined amount of time. I hate people who are passive and have no motivation to make things happen.

Occasionally, I focus on my vision of how reality should be or I decide to do shocking things for attention but otherwise, I never really use my perceiving functions. How do I get out of this grip?

 

[own8ge]

Fi needs Fe. You seem to avoid Fe, this is a trait of Te.

Besides, based on your little story. I have nothing that would indicate you to be another type rather than ENTJ. The MBTI ENTJ profile may not suit you, but MBTI is full of shit. Personality-Type Profiles are biased and merely represent the underdeveloped stereotypes.

I digress, what I mean is that your function behavior seems normal to me.

Currently I'm an ENTJ

No, you are and always have been an ENTJ or you aren't an ENTJ at all. Type doesn't change over time.

 

[ILYGodney]

Fi needs Fe. You seem to avoid Fe, this is a trait of Te.

Besides, based on your little story. I have nothing that would indicate you to be another type rather than ENTJ. The MBTI ENTJ profile may not suit you, but MBTI is full of shit. Personality-Type Profiles are biased and merely represent the underdeveloped stereotypes.

I digress, what I mean is that your function behavior seems normal to me.


No, you are and always have been an ENTJ or you aren't an ENTJ at all. Type doesn't change over time.

How so? What should I do?

Yes, I am a definite ENTJ and I completely agree with you.

Those were bad word choices.

 

[own8ge]

Every one tends to be in a grip occasionally. I myself am in a struggle with myself rather often, that whilst my understanding of typology is magnificent. So I don't think any typological knowledge is going to help you. Do whatever you personally think is best, the rest will follow.

There always is a purpose for the thoughts you are having. Don't mind it to much, it will fix itself. And it doesn't, then it will actually scream what you will have to do into your consciousness.

My advice: Detach yourself from your situation, think things through and move on.

 

[ILYGodney]

Every one tends to be in a grip occasionally. I myself am in a struggle with myself rather often, that whilst my understanding of typology is magnificent. So I don't think any typological knowledge is going to help you. Do whatever you personally think is best, the rest will follow.

There always is a purpose for the thoughts you are having. Don't mind it to much, it will fix itself. And it doesn't, then it will actually scream what you will have to do into your consciousness.

My advice: Detach yourself from your situation, think things through and move on.

Ah okay. I'll try to. What's your type? Although not sure if this is because of Fi, but now I'm deciding to develop my sense of individuality so I can brand myself better and stand out more. I used to strong dislike anyone with a sense of individuality so it's very odd.

Hmm I see.

I'll do that.

 

[own8ge]

I'm an INFJ. Also, whenever I'm in a struggle with myself, in the end it always seems like it was inevitable to be in that struggle in order to develop myself further. In your case, it indeed might be Fi which is developing your personality-type to a 'higher stage'.

 

[ILYGodney]

I'm an INFJ. Also, whenever I'm in a struggle with myself, in the end it always seems like it was inevitable to be in that struggle in order to develop myself further. In your case, it indeed might be Fi which is developing your personality-type to a 'higher stage'.

Hmm I see. Yeah, that could be it. Thanks for replying!

 

[EyeSeeCold]

How do I get out of this grip?

Why not identify concrete issues and tackle them directly? It seems counterproductive to look at this through Inferior Fi.

 

[own8ge]

Why not identify concrete issues and tackle them directly? It seems counterproductive to look at this through Inferior Fi.

Perhaps. It would depend on the situation I'd suppose. For instance, due when I was younger I had a Se (My inferior function) developing stage, I can now understand Se people way better. (I hope you get what I'm trying to say)

Or i.e. as I'm now developing my 5th function Ne, I can understand myself and think outside of my principles (whilst being aware of it).

Or... As I'm developing my 6th function Fi (to become more conscious), I can now finally understand the ignorance of Fe.

What I mean to say is: Developing Fi gives me quite a struggle, I'm losing skills I don't want to lose. However, I gain new skills, wiser skills. So I'd rather go through this struggle and be better off in the end rather than to try and block it and be miserable.

 

[ILYGodney]

Perhaps. It would depend on the situation I'd suppose. For instance, due when I was younger I had a Se (My inferior function) developing stage, I can now understand Se people way better. (I hope you get what I'm trying to say)

Or i.e. as I'm now developing my 5th function Ne, I can understand myself and think outside of my principles (whilst being aware of it).

Or... As I'm developing my 6th function Fi (to become more conscious), I can now finally understand the ignorance of Fe.

What I mean to say is: Developing Fi gives me quite a struggle, I'm losing skills I don't want to lose. However, I gain new skills, wiser skills. So I'd rather go through this struggle and be better off in the end rather than to try and block it and be miserable.

This is actually really interesting to read. But it isn't possible to develop your shadow functions. You can imitate the behaviors of those functions but you won't ever be able to develop them as they're part of certain mindsets.

 

[ILYGodney]

Why not identify concrete issues and tackle them directly? It seems counterproductive to look at this through Inferior Fi.

It probably is. Although I'm not sure why I'm in the grip since I'm fairly healthy.

 

[own8ge]

it isn't possible to develop your shadow functions. You can imitate the behaviors of those functions but you won't ever be able to develop them as they're part of certain mindsets.

I had believed this for a long time too. It seems so obvious, and straight forward.
However, I've came to a further conclusion which involves all 8 functions. Of which even your shadow functions aren't fully unconscious. I have strong arguments supporting this, but lets just agree to disagree. As my knowledge is my knowledge after all. Perhaps I'm right, perhaps you're right. Besides, I don't feel like arguing atm.

 

[ILYGodney]

I had believed this for a long time too. It seems so obvious, and straight forward.
However, I've came to a further conclusion which involves all 8 functions. Of which even your shadow functions aren't fully unconscious. I have strong arguments supporting this, but lets just agree to disagree. As my knowledge is my knowledge after all. Perhaps I'm right, perhaps you're right. Besides, I don't feel like arguing atm.

I don't feel like arguing either and I do apologize if I seemed like I was attacking you. I am curious as to how that works though?