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I'm not sure if I'm an intp..

estheregg

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I have gotten results for both infp and intp. Intps sound too smart and self disciplined (not partying or fucking up) and infps care about people where as I don't give a shit about anyone but myself. And I believe everyone else feels the same which causes me intense anxiety sometimes. Anyways, what do you think I am?

I apologize for my poor writing skills.
 

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I think you should read more about it.

INFPs can be heartless too. They run on core fuzzy values. They have quite a definitive view on right and wrong. Simply put, genocide can't be reasoned to an INFPs where as IXTPs can justify it.

If I am an INTP then it's completely different from smart and disciplined. I always thought I was retarded and too undisciplined.
 

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I can't speak for anyone else, but I don't go to parties because I don't like parties. That certainly doesn't mean I'm disciplined, since I'm usually playing video games when I should be working.

If you don't feel like you're smart, then you're probably smarter than you give yourself credit for. Bertrand Russel once said, "The fundamental cause of trouble in the world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt," and I have found his observation to be generally true (with some exceptions, of course). I often run into some strong imposter syndrome, where I feel like I'll be exposed as being much dumber than other people seem to think I am.

Finally, no tests are perfect, especially ones available online for free. Did any of the ones you take list your percentage scores? It's possible you just don't have as strong a preference between T and F. Alternatively, maybe you took tests that just don't work for you. The test in my sig consistently scored me as ISTJ until I did some more reading about MBTI, confirmed my type by reading descriptions, and learned how to trick the test into giving me the correct result.
 

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If being an infp means believing in right and wrong then I am definitely not an infp. However, I am too aware of others feelings to be an intp. Maybe I should try and find a better test for me even though Im pretty sure Ive taken every version of the test possible. I'll give it another shot. And yes, i do think they aremyself disciplined because I get the feeling I'm the only pot smoking/cigarette addicted intp in this forum. Am I wrong?
 

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I am too aware of others feelings to be an intp.

Fe is the INTP's inferior function. If you are an INTP who doesn't have as strong a preference between T and F, perhaps you feel more aware of the feelings of others than an INTP with a stronger preference for Ti. An INFP would have Fi as the dominant function, which would focus more inwardly than outwardly, i.e., on an internal set of values rather than on the feelings/judgments of others. Therefore it makes more sense to me that you would be INTP, based on what you've said so far (and assuming that you are indeed an INxP).

Keep in mind also that MBTI is about preferences and how you gain or spend your energy. Just because you prefer one mode of functioning, that doesn't mean that you won't be able to function differently.

I'm not sure how accurate all that is, but if I'm wrong hopefully someone will come along and correct me. Some folks here on the forum have a much deeper understanding of MBTI than I do. I suggest you read the cognitive function stickies and other MBTI materials around the web; if you understand what the type notation means and how it relates to dominant and auxiliary functions, it will be a great help in typing yourself and others. The more you know about how these things interact, the more accurate you can be when you try and type yourself.

And yes, i do think they aremyself disciplined because I get the feeling I'm the only pot smoking/cigarette addicted intp in this forum. Am I wrong?

Ok, first of all, I would imagine there are plenty of smokers (of both weed and tobacco) on the forum, but you wouldn't know because they live across the country or across the world.

Second, even people who do smoke don't always advertise that fact even in face-to-face interactions. Back when I used to smoke pot, people who discovered that fact about me were always very surprised. I found that to be a great comfort, since it meant that suspicion was less likely to fall on me. So I nurtured that impression in other people and only revealed my habit if I deemed them worthy of knowing.

Third, being a smoker of either substance doesn't necessarily mean that you are not disciplined. Hell, Obama was a cigarette smoker for years and still managed to be a con-law professor, Senator, and President. You don't get those jobs without some measure of discipline. You can also smoke pot and still get things done on time and do a good job. I hate the stereotype of stoners as lazy hippies who never get any work done. I personally know more hard-working pot smokers than lazy hippy pot smokers, and I know a lot who fall somewhere in between.

Lastly, discipline is not necessarily a function of your personality. It's a skill that must be developed over time, and for INTPs that can be difficult. We tend to lose interest in a subject once we gain competency, and it takes discipline to keep plugging away at it. It might be easier for personality types that are naturally inclined to be more disciplined, but everyone has moments where they would rather be doing something--anything--other than the task in front of them.
 

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You make a good point on the whole "disciplined pothead" thing. I guess I'm just used to people seeing weed as a bad thing. I live with 5 international students, 4 from Sweden and 1 from Japan, they think if you smoke weed you are a bad person and a drug addict.

Thanks for the input errybody:)

p.s. I realize this is a boring ass thread but I was just in need of some input from people who know as much about mbti as I do.
 

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Well the real question here is: Do you have lead Ti with an inferior Fe, or a lead Fi with inferior Te? The differences should be pretty drastic.

Do you often pause to think when talking, or is your best thinking done out loud?

When you get riled up, do your emotions threaten to burst out and wreak havoc, or are they nestled safely inside, guiding your actions? (I think that's how Fi works, but I could be wrong. Lord knows I don't have any of that.)
 

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Well the real question here is: Do you have lead Ti with an inferior Fe, or a lead Fi with inferior Te? The differences should be pretty drastic.

Do you often pause to think when talking, or is your best thinking done out loud?

When you get riled up, do your emotions threaten to burst out and wreak havoc, or are they nestled safely inside, guiding your actions? (I think that's how Fi works, but I could be wrong. Lord knows I don't have any of that.)
Does either saying something incredibly stupid or nothing at all in a situation requiring an immediate response count?

In all seriousness, INTP's are by no means, disciplined (at least I am not though I wish I were). As far as intelligence is concerned, I consider myself intelligent compared to many at my school. Compared to many here who possess many years more than I do...ehh, they most likely would kick me around a psychological soccer field.

Something to consider: The simple fact that you are not completely sure of your type suggests that accuracy does matter to you and thus, since you are attempting to reason your way out, it does speak in favor of a dominant T. There are many people who say, "I am absolutely certain I am an INTP" the first time they take the test. Those are the ones I seriously doubt.

Subjectively, just give yourself a little time to sort things out.
 

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Being an intp girl really fuckin sucks...I don't think any guy finds my personality to be sexy. It mentions in the type descriptions that people normally perceive female intps as being stupid but the males are seen as intelligent. I hate it because its true. If only I were an entp...or even just an intp male would be so much better!
 

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Being an intp girl really fuckin sucks...I don't think any guy finds my personality to be sexy. It mentions in the type descriptions that people normally perceive female intps as being stupid but the males are seen as intelligent. I hate it because its true. If only I were an entp...or even just an intp male would be so much better!

Meh. I am not so sure about INTP males always seeming intelligent. A gaping problem I have encountered is my lack of ability to communicate. Somehow, in debates or conversations requiring high-level thinking, I somehow cannot get my point across to the other person accurately. In debates, they believe my point to be something different than what I meant to be, and in conversations, they misunderstand, disagree, or just find me stupid based on their assumption of what I meant. I am not under the impression that I do not formulate my words to truly express my thoughts on a matter and it is personally, very agitating.

As for female INTP, I wish I could say I would date one, but I know deep inside that it would not work with my given personality. The whole problem arises not in attraction, but in the simple fact that you have two introverts. I am alright, socially, but when the opposite gender gets involved, a relationship between the two of us will NOT develop unless she is extroverted enough to help me along. I cannot move a relationship along on my own due to insecurities and such.

I guess a more extroverted INTP or a different type would not have issues with this. I personally am very attracted to intelligence. Just be yourself, and do not always worry so much about 'sexy'. Sexy is about looks, not personality. Personality is based on another person's preference, not what the media tells them to like. 'Sexy' is based on what the media says is sexy.
 

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Hmm I was gonna start a thread just like this, good thing I checked.

Introverted (I) 56.67% Extroverted (E) 43.33%
Intuitive (N) 57.14% Sensing (S) 42.86%
Feeling (F) 51.61% Thinking (T) 48.39%
Perceiving (P) 68.57% Judging (J) 31.43%

^ I got this in my mbti test, I have done this test several times before and got INTP. This wasn't a long while ago, only 1 or 2 weeks ago.

The only difference is that I answered the questions based on my behaviour and personality at home, where I am comfortable and around people I know, which I trust a lot more than strangers or classmates I don't know very well. In such a surrounding I talk and act after or while I am thinking, because the fear of being misunderstood or making a mistake in communicating my thoughts/ideas or intentions across are relatievely low. I act extroverted to a certain extent when I talk to people, who are close to me like family or close friends, (like I can talk to them without ever feeling tired). And thats the results I got while answering the questions based on my personality at home (where I feel safe and comfortable).

This, like I said earlier, is different outside of my "comfort zone", where I act more like an INTP (Reserved, usually thinking about ideas at the cornor of a room, remembering stuff, running simulations through my head...) In this case I find it hard to talk to people I don't know very well without a good reason (getting to know them isn't a very good reason for me), maybe for stuff like classwork or homework, talking to people, in this context, feels very exhausting and I usually have to drink lots of water or take a nap, when I get home, to "recharge".

You can try to take a Enneagram test if you're not satisfied with mbti. I got a 6w5 or 4w5 in my enneagram test, with the dominent being 6 I think.
Ooh yeah, I also seem to have, I think, some symptoms of multiple personality disorder. Can anyone else relate to this? where maybe you act differently at work than you would at home ?
 

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Ooh yeah, I also seem to have, I think, some symptoms of multiple personality disorder. Can anyone else relate to this? where maybe you act differently at work than you would at home ?


The test in my sig consistently scored me as ISTJ until I did some more reading about MBTI, confirmed my type by reading descriptions, and learned how to trick the test into giving me the correct result.

I think part of the reason that test didn't work out for me at first was because I answered some questions with particular thought given to my behavior at work. Over the summer I interned at a criminal defense law firm, and while I was there I outwardly acted very ISTJ. Part of this, I'm sure, comes from the day-to-day realities of an attorney's work, in which deadlines and organization are critical and one must display a level of respect for the court which borders on obsequiousness. Another part is my high need for competence in myself and others; if I'm going to do a job (and get paid for it), I want to do it well.

That being said, everything that was going on in my head when I analyzed my cases remained characteristically INTP.
 

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We should have a bot reply on this: Tests and descriptions are inaccurate. You wont know from searching them. INFPs can be heartless bastards and INTPs can be perceptive and understanding. It's about experience. You will always have the same type, but you can change somewhat drastically through your life.

In the end, this stuff is not science.

Being an intp girl really fuckin sucks...I don't think any guy finds my personality to be sexy. It mentions in the type descriptions that people normally perceive female intps as being stupid but the males are seen as intelligent. I hate it because its true. If only I were an entp...or even just an intp male would be so much better!

That's not true. Don't get sucked down in meaningless generalizations like that.
 

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Could a big difference between Fi and Ti be "Right vs wrong" vs "Correct vs Incorrect" ?
 

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intp's are apparently (according to polls) one of the types most likely to experiment with drugs, also "smart" is not a what makes you intp, although these forums are full of self-flattering intp types that will have you believe that it is haha, I think our way of thinking is often labelled as smart however, because it gives us a kind of thirst for knowledge, also doubting your intellectual capacity is very intp. Oh, and being disorganised is one of the main intp characteristics as well, don't know were you did your reading :)
 

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I advise you to go on a forum called "you know you're INTP when..." if you agree with 80 Per cent of the stuff then you probably are.
 

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Being an intp girl really fuckin sucks...I don't think any guy finds my personality to be sexy. It mentions in the type descriptions that people normally perceive female intps as being stupid but the males are seen as intelligent. I hate it because its true. If only I were an entp...or even just an intp male would be so much better!

I assume you're referring to the way in which intp's can be distracted, and as a girl it translates as ditzy and therefore dumb? I'm distracted but I highly doubt people think I'm stupid, I think it's all about the superficial image you project (sad but true) I make sure I project a quiet, cool and reserved image.

please explain what you mean further :)? so we can chat as fellow female intp chicks haha
 
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