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Idealistic INTP

lazlo61

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I feel like I am an idealistic INTP, I would never share a bed with a girl I dont like and I like everything to be grand, almost over the top. It makes me emotionally unstable, at least I think its that. Is there anyone whos feeling the same? I think i will never be truly happy.

Let me know what do you think.
 

Black Rose

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I would never share a bed with a girl I dont like

same

I think i will never be truly happy.

yes you will,
because people out there do care,
you just need to find them
I am a hermit but I do have friends
they are mostly on the internet
they care about me
 

nanook

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being unhappy is a matter of ego, not typology. i've been told it may fade away someday, when it's not actively reinforced.

i seem idealistic but i am a shitty example for a better mankind of tomorrow, because i don't achieve anything awesome. all i do is boycott the mediocre bullshit of a conservative world. and i am too smart to think my boycott makes a difference. i know typology and stages of development. almost nobody thinks like me. so i know that i am not part of a lager trend of better discernment. i mean i AM a part of an evolutionary trend, but it's sloooooow.

so all of this reeks suspiciously of an excuse to avoid/minimize social contact. being bossed around by conservative/"stupid" people. so it's more like an expression of disgust, aversion and phobia. besides the inferiority of Fe, something about tertiary Si seems to play into the pickiness. i am rather stubborn about avoiding what i don't like. i've managed to boycott capitalism for 20 years, at a very high price of course, since i exist without real privacy and financial freedom.

i have also rejected sexual offers, because i wanted to avoid the future drama, that would have come, when either or both of us realize "it was a mistake" (or how incompatible we really are, to use my own language).

in my understanding Ti>Fe is prone to apathy and that's probably not really idealistic, certainly not moralistic, rather nihilistic. i identify with this "meme": "chaotic neutral - might save your life, might steal your car". no, i don't steal cars! but i might, lol.

Ti can't even be described as principled, because it's too flexible, it's tactical and pragmatic. but all introverted functions dislike wasting any effort for objectively functional compromises that don't pay out subjectively. Ti expects payoff in the form of gained insight or achieved optimization. for instance hanging out with a girl i don't absolutely like is totally worth it, if i can teach her something and learn to become a better teacher in the process. if she can teach me something, that's also fine.

Ne types are certainly progressive in their worldview. i don't believe you are INTP if you are into nationalism or similar retro crap. anyone with Ne understands progress on their level of development. even an Ne child gets star trek, one world, resource based economy, etc. and would love to see tomorrow to be yesterday. (i don't mean aging of course)
 

Ice Age Flood

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I sympathize. I thought I was an INFP for a while due to what I thought was idealism (it turned out I was misinterpreting my zeal for the Truth as Idealism). I almost always look to the future for a better life instead of enjoying my current situation. It's pretty common for INTPs to be unhappy; our future-oriented perception makes the present seem dull, and our social difficulties compound the problem. We are not judgers, so indecision, disorganization, and the retardation of success adds to the depression.

But things aren't all bad; at least we have the clearest thinking abilities of all the types...Which usually means we're ignored, lol.

I've found that academics and writing are a salve.
 

lazlo61

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I am 22 at the moment and I know that I have improved quite a lot compared to the time I was let's say 18. But now I still feel lost and very uncertain of myself. I don't know if I am actually capable of doing what I want to do. Can you tell me your experiences with being INTP at 22?
 
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At 22 I was full of self hatred and self doubt. I hated myself for not being able to learn fast enough. For not being able to connect facts and ideas about myself and others. For not knowing exactly how I should live my life or what causes/problems in the world I should devote my life to. I still don't know. I still doubt myself going on 25. There have been changes though. I have found the search for the truth and meaning to be in itself a bit satisfying. I no longer hate myself for not knowing things. Take the time to figure it out and be a little more gentle with yourself. There are people twice your age who are still lost. There are people three times our age who are just finding out what they want. Slow it down a bit and trust yourself. Unless you end up in a really fucked up situation people are generally able to take care of themselves.
 
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