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I wouldn't call it outright communist, but a fascist oligarchy seems about right.

America is far from a communist state, mainly because over 20% of the working class can't find work. There's also a great lack of community, in my opinion, throughout this nation. The state has become the family, while the family no longer exists.
Sockrates...I went through a hate on America phase too in my twenties. Having now reached my third decade, I've stopped the hating, and now I just try to understand what's happening in the world politically behind the scenes without conspiracy theories as the framework.

Basically, what I've realized is that the military apparatus overseas is pretty much just dedicated to controlling as many strategic regions as possible, and particularly strategic resources, especially oil. That's my current framework for understanding the world now...not the "central bankers control everything." The latter may be true, but it doesn't help you interpret current events.

Check this out: http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2007/02/junger200702

The war over controlling resources of production at the source is the current source of conflict between the US, China, and Russia, with everyone else trying to get the leftover scraps. If you hate the US, would you want China controlling the world's oil supply or Russia? At least we have a democracy of sorts here, what do people in China have? nothing. I've lived there. Chinese people get f*cked every single day by their government.

It's just about control, and anyone who gets in the way of US interests is, very unfortunately, going to be neutralized...The Chinese and Russians would do exactly the same thing we are if they had the capability...
 
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The united States is communist, and fascist.

Dr. Peter Beter noted the corporate-socialism, and state socialism that had fully infiltrated America by the 1970's. The biggest mistake people make is thinking they are mutually exclusive. Communism and Nazism are both sides of the same coin; the only wuestion that remains is, who's minting the coins?

Isn't it common knowledge how many Nazi's were absorbed after the war, and how many communists had infiltrated?

Of course 9/11 was an inside job, America lost all democracy when they (we, collectively) lost JFK.
 

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Of course 9/11 was an inside job, America lost all democracy when they (we, collectively) lost JFK.
On a slightly serious note, why is there such an obsession with JFK 'cross the pond? I understand it's a fun topic for conspiracy theory nuts, but really. Isn't it time to move on?
 

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SpaceYeti said:
He predicted a really large attack, yes, but he also said it wouldn't be OSL, he said it'd be the New World Order, the ultimate goal being a world-wide socialist state.
To a conspiracy theorist, it would be reasonable to say this is what actually happened. It was an inside job by the government which is run by the NWO, and the resultant increased restrictions on freedom around the globe are indeed bringing us closer to a ... well, to a something. I'm not clear on the specifics there. :D But certainly more nannying and oversight and such. Governments are more suffocating atm - at least that's what I hear. Airports are definitely more annoying than they used to be.
 
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On a slightly serious note, why is there such an obsession with JFK 'cross the pond? I understand it's a fun topic for conspiracy theory nuts, but really. Isn't it time to move on?
As I touched upon, the murder of JFK signified the death of democracy in the west, that's generally not an issue one just 'moves on from'... Well, for some of us.
 
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What age do you use in defining pedophile?
That could turn into a difficult problem for delimiting the nature of influence in general, but let me specify that it would be anyone younger than the pederast whom was wished to be influenced for physical and cultural homosexual cultivation.
 

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As I touched upon, the murder of JFK signified the death of democracy in the west, that's generally not an issue one just 'moves on from'... Well, for some of us.
I'm sorry, I didn't realize you were serious.:confused: I've never been good at conspiracies. I think I lack the necessary faith.
 

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I have delineated other facets of American history in some of my debates on here. I have always been obsessed with larger political issues and have desired to improve my written talent. I read and write to that end.

I write because it is necessary for my wellbeing right now. This forum is a refuge with a lovely altar. I need to know that I am not insane and that the thoughts I recover from my chaotic reality actually make a certain sense. I suppose it is narcissistic, but I hope it is more than that.
 

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I have delineated other facets of American history in some of my debates on here. I have always been obsessed with larger political issues and have desired to improve my written talent. I read and write to that end.

I write because it is necessary for my wellbeing right now. This forum is a refuge with a lovely altar. I need to know that I am not insane and that the thoughts I recover from my chaotic reality actually make a certain sense. I suppose it is narcissistic, but I hope it is more than that.
How is wanting to exist narcissistic?
 

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I write because it is necessary for my wellbeing right now. This forum is a refuge with a lovely altar. I need to know that I am not insane and that the thoughts I recover from my chaotic reality actually make a certain sense. I suppose it is narcissistic, but I hope it is more than that.
I think this is why many of us are here. To confirm that we're not insane, and correct the little fallacies in our theories before they grow too large. If it makes you feel any better, I think you're at least 76% sane, which is pretty much the ideal amount of saniness. :D
 
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I'm sorry, I didn't realize you were serious.:confused: I've never been good at conspiracies. I think I lack the necessary faith.
Come on Yellow, your more intelligent than that.
I don't 'believe' in conspiracy 'theories'.. I research conspiracy fact.
Fact - Lee Harvey Oswald did not kill JFK.
Question remains, who did?
 
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