I had that "aha" moment.

[QuickTwist]

Gues what. All this time I thought I was an N. All this time I thought I was a T. Turns out I am neither. I just have a highly creative thought process which was throwing everything off.

I live in the moment. I couldn't care less about all the problems of the world. I am not particularly strategic. I can't see into the future. I don't have the patients to sit through reading a book on astrophysics. I am shy by nature (though you probably don't know this by my crazy post count). All I really care about it feeling good. This is how I was able to finally say Fi as the dominant CF. I actually used my own method of typing. I have a thread where I describe this process: http://intpforum.com/showthread.php?t=19033.

Anyways it took a lot of soul searching to finally figure it out. That said, IDK if I will be a frequent on this forum since I will likely be seeking one with more like minded individuals. It was fun thinking of myself as an intellect but I have realized that I am not one. My ability to think deeply is what was causing this. I think deeply about everything, but it has more to do with how I feel than anything else. Perhaps I will strive for a career that more aligns with my personality focus.

Hell yeah, I don't have to pretend to be an intellectual anymore!

 

[crippli]

I couldn't care less about all the problems of the world.

What problems are you talking about?

 

[QuickTwist]

Hunger.

[Edit] Usually when "smart people" think about the problems of the world they are talking about all the political bullshit that I could care less about.

 

[Brontosaurie]

do i get an "i told you so"? pretty please?

 

[QuickTwist]

Sure. I need a reference where you said I was ISFP first. Last I remember was you saying I am ISTJ... Way. Off.

 

[TheManBeyond]

i think the one who said you were an isfp was me. Cba to look for evidence but it must be somewhere in your thread.

 

[QuickTwist]

You mean I have to relive this shit!

 

[BrainVessel]

I think you'd fit in fine here if you dropped the bigotry.
You're creating good content, you just need to stop immaturely Fi-ing everywhere and your mind would be very welcome here.

 

[QuickTwist]

Thanks. Don't change your regular manner of presentation because of my account though. I appreciate the complement though.

 

[Jennywocky]

Gues what. All this time I thought I was an N. All this time I thought I was a T. Turns out I am neither. I just have a highly creative thought process which was throwing everything off.

I live in the moment. I couldn't care less about all the problems of the world. I am not particularly strategic. I can't see into the future. I don't have the patients to sit through reading a book on astrophysics. I am shy by nature (though you probably don't know this by my crazy post count). All I really care about it feeling good. This is how I was able to finally say Fi as the dominant CF. I actually used my own method of typing. I have a thread where I describe this process: http://intpforum.com/showthread.php?t=19033.

Anyways it took a lot of soul searching to finally figure it out. That said, IDK if I will be a frequent on this forum since I will likely be seeking one with more like minded individuals. It was fun thinking of myself as an intellect but I have realized that I am not one. My ability to think deeply is what was causing this. I think deeply about everything, but it has more to do with how I feel than anything else. Perhaps I will strive for a career that more aligns with my personality focus.

Hell yeah, I don't have to pretend to be an intellectual anymore!

Honestly, you just scan to me as some kind of Pe dom. You always have to be posting something, and you dump words everywhere in flow-of-consciousness without them needing to define an idea or a value. Everything else pales in comparison to that, it creates a lot of smoke.

 

[QuickTwist]

Honestly, you just scan to me as some kind of Pe dom. You always have to be posting something, and you dump words everywhere in flow-of-consciousness without them needing to define an idea or a value. Everything else pales in comparison to that, it creates a lot of smoke.

Should I take that as an insult then? Other than that, glad you're involved in this thread. You could have just said "I think you're X type." I would've had no problem with that. Leave it to the vagabond in beautiful shoes...

[Edit] Why just why. I don't understand that post at all. IDK if you're calling me an idiot in so many words or what. I suppose you just saying I'm smoke. QT: the ramblings of an idiot. Fuck this shit. I do what I want.

 

[Jennywocky]

Should I take that as an insult then? Other than that, glad you're involved in this thread. You could have just said "I think you're X type." I would've had no problem with that. Leave it to the vagabond in beautiful shoes...

[Edit] Why just why. I don't understand that post at all. IDK if you're calling me an idiot in so many words or what. I suppose you just saying I'm smoke. QT: the ramblings of an idiot. Fuck this shit. I do what I want.

Why would this be an insult? If I wanted to say you were a fucking idiot, then I would have called you a fucking idiot, right?

Your response says more about you than I did and kind of clarifies what I meant -- you don't parse text, you just throw words at things. This doesn't need to be an insult, it's just clarifying you have a Pe approach. A Ji basically parses the text and targets a response. It was information for you to understand. It's also leading you to fluff up the place, so... might want to ease up on that.

 

[QuickTwist]

I was going to post this in an edit but I suppose it still applies. I lost a lot of cognition in the brain after the mental break. I think I'm doing ok. I really had no idea what you were saying. Still don't. What is Pe? Hows the direct approach going to work with you? Choose.

 

[Jennywocky]

I was going to post this in an edit but I suppose it still applies. I lost a lot of cognition in the brain after the mental break. I think I'm doing ok. I really had no idea what you were saying. Still don't. What is Pe? Hows the direct approach going to work with you? Choose.

Extroverted Perception function -- Se or Ne.

If it's not balanced by some kind of internal judging function (Ji -- i.e., Fi or Ti), it results in a kind of "throw words at the wall" approach to interaction, and just saying/typing whatever runs through one's mind, versus doing the self-editing first and then sharing more polished and specifically targeted ideas about the topic in question.

The last day, you've been posting a lot more in various threads without much refinement to get the ideas into a form that people can respond easily to them. It's just all kind of "thought-to-fingers" expression of what's running through your head at the moment.

I don't really recall anything about the "break" you mention. Did you talk about that here?

 

[QuickTwist]

Thanks for clearing that up. Yeah, it happened a while ago. I really don't know if you are being sarcastic or not. It wasn't much fun. basically you loose a lot of your mental edge after it happens. It sucks, better to move on. People here are not at all concerned in personal matters if my existence here has anything to say about it as an example. They're all stone cold logical machines. which is fine there is nothing wrong with that. It just too bad People here all too often ignore the personal touches that make it a community where people can be open with there experiences as well as there ideas and theories. *shrug* times like this make me miss church *shudders* I can't say my experience here has been an uber positive one, but its one of the places I thought I could be crazy and not worry about it. Asis la vida. Whatever though I suppose its one of those things where people are constantly feeling each other out without just going for the whole "opening up thing." I don't believe people are as callus as this forum depicts. People have a heart whether they would have you believe it or not. I'm not trying to bash this forum at all; in fact I'm glad I have had the opportunity to explore ideas that people do share in this community. I've grown as a person because of it and I think most people would say the same. Anyways that enough of me spilling my guts for the time being.

 

[Jennywocky]

Thanks for clearing that up. Yeah, it happened a while ago. I really don't know if you are being sarcastic or not.

I don't see any sarcasm in my question. I was actually asking; I haven't been around in depth enough to know if I missed something you posted.

It wasn't much fun. basically you loose a lot of your mental edge after it happens. It sucks, better to move on. People here are not at all concerned in personal matters if my existence here has anything to say about it as an example. They're all stone cold logical machines. which is fine there is nothing wrong with that. It just too bad People here all too often ignore the personal touches that make it a community where people can be open with there experiences as well as there ideas and theories. *shrug* times like this make me miss church *shudders*

I don't miss church. It was a great place for superficial connection but in the end I was still alone... and even more miserable because my beliefs were different but if I said anything, I would be criticized and/or rejected. It seemed to be most beneficial for an instinctual variant SP who just wants social options, or at most the SO variant who likes having established social events and connections that don't need to go deep; as an SX variant, I was in a state of permanent starvation and isolation.

I guess if I went to a UU church or something, I would at least have some options though.

Anyway, I find the forum here a "bit cold" as well, although people still engage. Accordingly, I don't come here for close personal connection, I come here more to blow off steam, see some interesting ideas, and/or RPG game. The "introvert" factor does run strong here. It's just the culture. Occasionally people will go really really deep on a particular discussion and expose a lot, but it demands an energy investment that isn't always something people want to make.

 

[QuickTwist]

Superficial is better than nothing right? You say its not on a deep level. Whats deep? I'd argue anytime someone makes themselves vulnerable, that is when things begin to be felt personally from one individual to another. IDK I think I'm just a sentimentalist who dwells too much in their mothers womb. I can't help it. I basically just said what you said only it sounds redundant based on what has been said otherwise in this conversation. Repeat and people ignore, say something bizarre and people love you. Its crazy./rant

 

[BrainVessel]

Superficial is better than nothing right?

If I were certain I were to live the rest of my life surrounded by unswayably superficial people and none other I would actually rather die. There would be no purpose or joy in that life for me. Superficial people are everything wrong with the world, it's the root of fear, greed, hate, mundane superficialities. They are the opposite of authenticity and exist soley for esteem and themselves and that is something that repulses and frustrates me so much that I actually feel a physical heaviness in my chest when I encounter or think about it.

You say its not on a deep level. Whats deep? I'd argue anytime someone makes themselves vulnerable, that is when things begin to be felt personally from one individual to another.

No. Depth is found beyond esteem. Many people make themselves vulnerable for attention or a number of other reasons regarding what people think about them. That is not depth. That is surface-level self.

IDK I think I'm just a sentimentalist who dwells too much in their mothers womb. I can't help it. I basically just said what you said only it sounds redundant based on what has been said otherwise in this conversation. Repeat and people ignore, say something bizarre and people love you. Its crazy./rant

Not judging you, just curious. What is your motivation for interacting here on INTPf?

 

[QuickTwist]

If I were certain I were to live the rest of my life surrounded by unswayably superficial people and none other I would actually rather die. There would be no purpose or joy in that life for me. Superficial people are everything wrong with the world, it's the root of fear, greed, hate, mundane superficialities. They are the opposite of authenticity and exist soley for esteem and themselves and that is something that repulses and frustrates me so much that I actually feel a physical heaviness in my chest when I encounter or think about it.

I made my comment more as a rhetorical question. Either you are misunderstanding me or I am misunderstanding you or there is a disconnect between us.

No. Depth is found beyond esteem. Many people make themselves vulnerable for attention or a number of other reasons regarding what people think about them. That is not depth. That is surface-level self.

This answers the question of what is superficial, not what is deep. Its like saying the sun is yellow because it is not blue.

Not judging you, just curious. What is your motivation for interacting here on INTPf?

I do not have a goal for my presents here on INTPf. I started out here because I found out I was INTP and wanted to know what that is about. Through self discovery and knowledge shared by and through other people who may or may not be INTP I found out I was actually something far different. It was mostly the way I saw information shared the led me to believe that I am not INTP, but this took a long time. If I had to summarize my motivation to be active on this forum I fear you would be very disappointed. I do not know about my motivation for doing things, I just do them.

 

[BrainVessel]

I made my comment more as a rhetorical question. Either you are misunderstanding me or I am misunderstanding you or there is a disconnect between us.

Then what were you trying to get across?

This answers the question of what is superficial, not what is deep. Its like saying the sun is yellow because it is not blue.

I was arguing that zero depth can be found in superficialities.

 

[QuickTwist]

This topic is not worth arguing over @BrainVessel. It has more to do with how I feel than being a sound argument.