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Lyra

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I love how everybody feel for the deep interpretation of my carefully constructed double meaning :-). I was actually asking why the sub-forum had been created.

Trust you all to infer that something so innocent and mundane was a reference to a fundamental existential question.

As far as that question goes, though, I'd argue that 'why' is merely a substitute in place of lack of understanding of 'how'. Meaning is simple and accessible, whereas simultaneous structural apprehension of the evolution of the cosmos from cosmogenesis to the present moment... isn't.
 

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The Primal Question since Man first lifted his eyes to the stars and forgot to howl.



I think it's to perfect one's being or something.




Claverhouse :phear:


Good idea. However, unless you believe in Reincarnation, or a divine afterlife, it would make no sense to perfect your being. What would be the point? Perfect your being, and then die?

I liked Joe Rogan's Idea: That if a creature from space looked down on some major city, like Los Angeles for example..they'd see us as some kind of bacteria, that is ever-growing.


I will quote his blog:


My point is, that after a good DMT trip the idea of reincarnation doesn’t even sound a little outlandish. It’s certainly unprovable, but I don’t think it’s any more strange to think we live different lives, over and over again than it is to wrap our minds around the fact that we live ANY life at all. All life is fucking nuts.

All human existence is incredibly bizarre, and when looking at the human race as a single, gigantic super-organism to me it’s not more bizarre to think we live over and over again than it is to wrap your head around the idea that we live at all – that we think, or that we’re conscious. That we can see, and hear, and smell. That we all know death is inevitable, but we all run from it. Why would it be any weirder to live more than once? That to me – if a “soul” is a real biological or spiritual entity and not just a trick of the ego – that actually makes more sense than just living one life.
We just have no proof of it, and we can’t detect it, so we dismiss it.

We think of ourselves as one thing – “a person” – but clearly we’re a mass of a bunch of different and coexisting organisms, all kinds of different bacteria, and they’re all working together to keep us alive. Maybe the human soul is just another one of these entities that make up a person, and that as the human body is slowly evolving from the depths of its lower primate roots, the soul is evolving right along side it.

The human organism is a physical thing and it needs to create fresh bodies in order further evolve, because that’s what the body is; it’s a physical mass of cells and processes. Well, if a soul is a real thing (and I’m inclined to think that’s very possible) it’s an ethereal thing that we have no way of measuring or even documenting it. If it exists, and it’s a component of an evolving life form than it makes perfect sense that it’s evolving too, and maybe the way it does that is by passing from one life to the next, improving and evolving a little with each new incarnation.


http://blog.joerogan.net/archives/585


I really like him.
 

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Ah, I rarely even notice which subforum a topic is in.

There is certainly a relationship between why and how. An understanding of how, that also supplied us with an understanding (if there is any) of our purpose for merely existing, would be interesting to say the least. Meaning is accessible as far as chosen meaning goes, but if we don't choose to exist (initially at least) then what is meaning but something we create on a whim? I suppose what I'm saying boils down to... does meaning precede us?
 

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Context is all.
 

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