Hypnagogic hallucination and sleep paralysis

[Azreal_Mistwalker]

Not too long ago, I discovered the existence of those two things and managed to induce it on two occasions. The first time I was lying on the couch by the front door and was right on the verge of sleep when I heard the door open and strange voices coming into the room. This was very disconcerting because I wasn't expecting visitors and the door was locked, but while trying to rouse myself and see what was happening, I found that my body wasn't really responding to my brain. It took a huge effort, but I did manage to raise my head, at which point all the sounds ceased and I saw that the door was still shut and locked.

The second time is a little more difficult to explain. Same circumstances -I was on the couch, nearly asleep- but this time I heard a voice behind me that seemed to be making a constant "ahhhh" sound from some distance away. Then the sound started shifting between my left ear and right ear with a Doppler effect and approaching me, growing louder, very rapidly. I had this sense of deep dread that when the source of that sound reached me, something terrible was going to happen, but I managed to fight through the paralysis before it did and the sound stopped.

Has anybody else had experience with sleep paralysis or hypnagogic (or hypnopompic for that matter) hallucinations?

 

[Pyropyro]

You might want to take a look at this thread:

http://www.intpforum.com/showthread.php?t=1764

 

[Pizzabeak]

Read my thread about it too:

http://www.intpforum.com/showthread.php?t=17740

 

[MrBean13]

Yeah, when I was 15 I learned about astral projection and read that it may have some validity behind it and went through several phases of trying to separate from my physical body (100% srs no pun intended) and then at 18 I finally got the vibrations to start.

I had always heard vibrations were the sign that you were close to separating, and when I got them, any skepticism I had in the realm of AP was largely destroyed. I even heard loud snapping sounds in my neck reminiscent to the dense sound of cracking your knuckles underwater in a swimming pool. The vibrations literally felt like holding onto a jackhammer, they were intense, and I would estimate that my heart rate shot up to what it would have been following a 100 meter dash.

Since then, I have gotten vibrations 2 times, for a total of three. Though, as you said, every time, believe it or not, I got the sense that something dreadful was about to happen (i mean you would too if your heart rate easily doubled in a matter of seconds while lying completely still) and despite my knowledge that I was physically safe from harm, I always was overcome by my fight or flight instincts, though I badly wanted to project.

All the times I achieved vibration were conscious attempts brought on by lying in bed trying to relax enough to fall bodily asleep but to stay mentally awake, and I only successfully induced it 2 times consciously without falling asleep first. Both these times, I am completely sure I was not asleep, because I still had an intense consciousness and awareness of my surroundings, with no hallucinations or visions whatsoever that would be reminiscent of a lucid dream. The other time I tried setting a mental alarm to wake me up an hour after falling asleep, and it worked the first try; I woke up and was vibrating, but the vibrations subsided after about a minute. Also, one time I remember randomly waking up from a dream in the middle of the night with no intention of projecting, but alas my body had seemingly done a 180 so my head was where my feet were in an astral sort of way, then I quickly awoke to find myself as I had originally been, with head on the pillow. Not sure if that one was a dream or not, though.

Now you may think I am some polytheistic voodoo believing crazy person who either legitimately believes in the magic of tarot cards or simply has enough time and motivation on his hands to type this long post in order to mislead you, but this is simply not the case. I have always been a logical individual and an atheist, so if there was one person you could be sure wasn't lying to you then it would probably be Mr Bean. Based on my experiences, I am pretty sure that astral projection has a strong chance of being possible. And if it does, I think I might have to go get a superman costume in astral walmart and go fighting space zombies to save the day lol, I would rather this than become a renowned heart surgeon, .

 

[Vrecknidj]

If astral projection were possible, given 7 billion people, wouldn't there be more reports of it?

It seems overwhelmingly likely that these sensations, themselves entirely valuable, phenomenologically speaking, are purely internal and reflective of brain activity.

And, yes, I've experienced some of these weird sounds and feelings (it's been about 25 years since I had anything like what's been described in this thread as a vibration--I did sometimes experience that I was spinning). I too used to think there was something "more," something beyond the entirely natural to explain this. A couple decades of lack of evidence has changed my mind.

 

[Lot]

I've had a few occasions of sleep paralysis. The first time I saw a UFO. The second time I saw an angel in my closet. Third time was the fleshy part of a telatuby face floating around while I heard childish laughter.

There were a few more scattered, less interesting, ones that happened. The scariest one was when I had an octopus like creature made of shadows coming out of my bathroom. It felt like it wanted to scare me and feed on my negative energy. Then a neutral feeling being showed up and chased it off. When I was able to get awake, my cat was laying right where the neutral being was, and he was facing my bathroom. Spooky

Hypnagogic States and hypnotism taught me about the trance state. Canabis and salvia divinorum helped me refine the trance state. Like giant energy spider coming out of a vortex in my wall, dancing rock gnomes, refined it. I really enjoy the different levels of sleepiness you go through. It feels likes they open up the doors to your inner self, the process that your mind goes through, the projection of feeling into narratives. The early levels of the dream world are wonderful for self discovery. Each level is a bit of ego that you can step back from and more objectively look at you. If you're willing that is.

But I'm nutty and I do drugs. I try to take a few weeks to months out of the year sober from cannabis so I can dream more clearly. During these periods I try to practice lucid dreaming and sleep paralysis.

 

[Sinny91]

Can you tell me more about your UFO sighting, and if you feel the event directly relates to the other phenomena that followed? I'm interested in the catalyst of perception change.

 

[Lot]

If you are asking me, I didn't think it was all that special at the time. My childhood was full of weird shit, so seeing a UFO fly around for a few mins wasn't that impactful. Even the other incidents fell back into to foggy head space called memory after awhile. My parent's made of silly, unlikely, explanations for the things I told them about, so I didn't really share with them.

What triggered it, was usually waking up from a stressful dream, or just simply waking up in the middle of the night. The angel incident was in the process of falling to sleep, then waking up directly after falling asleep. Now I just induce it while laying still before bed, but there is still the wild time that I wake up while still sleeping.

Irrelevant rambling

Spoiler

I remember one time I got really stoned before bed. After a couple mins of laying there I heard a techno song. One that I hadn't remembered hearing before. It eventually started play very loudly in my mind. Then I started to here voices speaking gibberish phrases. They sounded so profound and I knew what they were conveying, but the words were nonsense. Sometimes they would echo. All this while I imagine a screen in front of me. It keeps showing me long fractal hallways, and meadows. Then suddenly bursting into spiraling and twisting neon light rings of different colors. The occasional distorted face would also appear.

 

[Sinny91]

Aweshome, can you describe the UFO and it's behaviour?
I'm working on a Vallee theory which requires real data.