How to stop?...

[HDINTP]

I drink alcohol unusally often right now and i won't to stop for 6,5 years now but just can't or don't want to.

It gives me good mood, makes me even more easy-going and i just stay alive from day to day and... I was the one who in his thoughts once came up with the idea that you have to somehow fulfill your live.

It is said brain develops longer than i first thought anyway i won't to not drink until i finish my student years.

It is too extraverted atmosphere in our family and i feel so exhausted. When we are just two it is like i can take it and no i am not drunk yet.

How do you deal with that if you are in the same situation. No i didn't want to search forum if you were having quite simillar discussion.

Two bears would be fine daily but still and do you think INTPs become addict more easily?

 

[pjoa09]

Two bears! lol I don't think that's alcoholism!

Alcoholics Anonymous?

Daily sounds like you could be turning into an alcoholic.

 

[NinjaSurfer]

I drink alcohol unusally often right now and i won't to stop for 6,5 years now but just can't or don't want to.

It gives me good mood, makes me even more easy-going and i just stay alive from day to day and... I was the one who in his thoughts once came up with the idea that you have to somehow fulfill your live.

It is said brain develops longer than i first thought anyway i won't to not drink until i finish my student years.

It is too extraverted atmosphere in our family and i feel so exhausted. When we are just two it is like i can take it and no i am not drunk yet.

How do you deal with that if you are in the same situation. No i didn't want to search forum if you were having quite simillar discussion.

Two bears would be fine daily but still and do you think INTPs become addict more easily?

I have a very compulsive personality so I can relate... but never been too much of an alcoholic.

My thing 'was' weed. I smoked weed 24/7 non-stop for a few years and actually quit cold turkey recently.

If you're going to be addicted to a mind-numbing drug though, I definitely advocate WEED. Although, where I live, Los Angeles, it is much easier to obtain and actually legal in the state of California. There are more weed shops than Starbucks in Los Angeles, can you believe that?

but seriously, smoking pot, I was the healthiest and best shape EVER. Even my lungs were in good shape. At worst, it was a minor irritant, but weed has so much healing effects it's ridiculous. Anyways, don't take my word for it, do your own research.

But if you have to kick one drug by substituting another-- weed is only all around positive...

I will vouch that the downside, the only one I can think if, is somewhat a loss of motivation to make lots of money. So if making money and moving fast is important in your life then don't do it. But, if you need to break from your alcohol addiction, which has all kinds of deleterious health effects, I am a big advocate of weed.

Again-- do your own research but that's my own advice... if it is legally available though. I'm in NO way advocating for you to break the law in any way shape or form.

Stay SAFE!!!

 

[HDINTP]

I have a very compulsive personality so I can relate... but never been too much of an alcoholic.

My thing 'was' weed. I smoked weed 24/7 non-stop for a few years and actually quit cold turkey recently.

If you're going to be addicted to a mind-numbing drug though, I definitely advocate WEED. Although, where I live, Los Angeles, it is much easier to obtain and actually legal in the state of California. There are more weed shops than Starbucks in Los Angeles, can you believe that?

but seriously, smoking pot, I was the healthiest and best shape EVER. Even my lungs were in good shape. At worst, it was a minor irritant, but weed has so much healing effects it's ridiculous. Anyways, don't take my word for it, do your own research.

I belive it is legal in your state. I am said to have incredibly strong will so in this case of alcohol i don't really know. I am not sure. I will try.

But if you have to kick one drug by substituting another-- weed is only all around positive...

I will vouch that the downside, the only one I can think if, is somewhat a loss of motivation to make lots of money. So if making money and moving fast is important in your life then don't do it. But, if you need to break from your alcohol addiction, which has all kinds of deleterious health effects, I am a big advocate of weed.

Again-- do your own research but that's my own advice... if it is legally available though. I'm in NO way advocating for you to break the law in any way shape or form.

Stay SAFE!!!

I belive it is legal in your state. I am said to have incredibly strong will so in this case of alcohol i don't really know. I am not sure. I will try.

 

[HDINTP]

To stop...

 

[HDINTP]

Two bears! lol I don't think that's alcoholism!

Alcoholics Anonymous?

Daily sounds like you could be turning into an alcoholic.

In bette case of course if it was always just two but. And yes it is maybe good for me that i don't like hard drinks so i am fine...

 

[Jason]

There are only 3 outcomes to addiction: death, institutions, and jail.

 

[Pizzabeak]

The taste is pretty gross, so bravo

But recently I found that whenever I drink I tend to just get really tired (and eventually pass out) so I don't really like drinking. You should be able to stop, just realize that you don't need it to have fun and you're probably less annoying while sober anyway.

 

[nanook]

alcohol raises the blood sugar so much, raised blood sugar can make tired, but also cause a blood sugar crash later, which causes high stress hormons, mental disturbance and sleeplessness, maybe that has to do with alcoholics falling asleep for 2-4 hours, then waking up

i never drink alc...

but i'm currently "addicted" to grapejuice (no alc) which messes up my low carb diet, but the body loves the fructose.

(almond chocolate is my other addiction, albeit refined sugar does the body no good at all)

i was wondering whether alcohol addiction, in the habit stage, can in part be sugar addiction (low sugar is not only potentially life threatening, but also highly relevant to serotonin levels, so the body will over write any willpower and make you go for the sweet shit that is on top of your mind, meaning alcohol, when your sugar is instable) and whether alcoholics should take measures to stabilize their blood sugar first, to create the condition, wherein their willpower can override whatever craving may be solely about the alcohol effect, as opposed to it's effect on bloodsugar.

 

[SpaceYeti]

There are only 3 outcomes to addiction: death, institutions, and jail.

In fact, my father died from his addiction to alcohol. They discovered his liver was only 20% effective, so they told him to stop drinking and they'd put him on the donation list for a new liver. He kept drinking, was taken off the donation list, and died a slow, painful death.

 

[RedN]

My dad actually had cancer in his pancreas due to alcohol. He also kept on drinking and the doctors said he must have been in a lot of pain but i guess... well. yeah he died. he was 36?

alcohol is not bad, it is when you take too much of it.

a glass of wine or beer a day is actually healthy for us. but finishing 6+ a day.... well...

 

[HDINTP]

I have finished...

 

[MichiganJFrog]

There are only 3 outcomes to addiction: death, institutions, and jail.

That puts it in perspective.

They say the basis of all addictions is anger. Maybe figure out what's pissing you off, why it does so, and how you can change this reaction. Be prepared for a long haul.

 

[Da Blob]

Amongst other things I am a Licensed Drug and Alcohol Counselor, (and my surviving clients think I am a damned good one) so anyone with a question can PM me.

The basic problem with addiction of any sort is that the addiction is firmly rooted deep within the Reptilian portion of the brain. Anyone serious about ending an addiction must be willing to battle with a dragon...

I train my clients to be dragon riders....

 

[HDINTP]

Well all that was needed was good sleep and assessment of the situation. Now it is fine

 

[SLushhYYY]

Well all that was needed was good sleep and assessment of the situation. Now it is fine

You must realize that you're thinking in these sort of moods when they are occurring. It makes life much easier to live.

 

[HDINTP]

You must realize that you're thinking in these sort of moods when they are occurring. It makes life much easier to live.

Yes for about 4 days I am just ok and that is when I start to experiment too much it all started just out of couriosity few months and I just cut it of it is that i don't usually stay doing same thing again and again...

 

[pjoa09]

@HDINTP I was trying to make a joke... but I guess no one caught that... ehh..

Maybe it's just like being addicted to 'coke zero' or 'yoghurt'. If there is no access to your alcohol you might just stop bothering to drink altogether.
Or you could just commit. Drink lots of water and sit in places where it is inappropriate to drink.

 

[Jennywocky]

In fact, my father died from his addiction to alcohol. They discovered his liver was only 20% effective, so they told him to stop drinking and they'd put him on the donation list for a new liver. He kept drinking, was taken off the donation list, and died a slow, painful death.

My father's still alive, but no one understands why. He almost died a few years ago due to liver failure from boozing it up (his blood alcohol level was .41% when we got him to the hospital, and he was actually manic, not sluggish... I have no clue what his tolerance is at this point after 40-50 years of this crap.)

I'm sure he's still taking meds for the liver.

He's done his jail time too for DUI. But he's not willing to change, he "doesn't have a drinking problem..."

(Apparently he got hit the other week and badly messed up his car, but never called the cops to report it because he was drunk at the time and would have been sent to jail, most likely. Just crazy stuff... he should be dead many times over.)

 

[EditorOne]

INTPs can have a kind of odd but dangerous relationship to alcohol. While addiction is, as Da Blob notes, something deep, what we can fall into is something else. This is something I read a long time ago that made sense, and no, I don't remember where I read it. Essentially, we drink because we are bored, it creates a pleasant zone where our normal troubles with emotions and whatnot are not a problem, and we can't think of a good reason to stop. In my case I ALWAYS drank to excess.

My solution for ending it was simply to stop, flat out, same as for alcohol addiction, and just ride out the time period required to, I guess, eliminate the attractiveness and not miss it any more.

I offer that in the event anyone thinks they're a typical alcoholic, where there are tremendous chemical and psychological situations to overcome. It manifests itself the same way, and there is a period of time in which the yearning for the alcohol is powerful, but it's just not the same.

In a sense I'm doing a typical INTP thing: I drank until I was competent at it and then got bored with it. :-)

Oh, and I don't kid myself about having a social drink, I know myself too well. It might not be chemical, but I see no reason to continually stress my will power. I just don't.

 

[HDINTP]

@HDINTP I was trying to make a joke... but I guess no one caught that... ehh..

Maybe it's just like being addicted to 'coke zero' or 'yoghurt'. If there is no access to your alcohol you might just stop bothering to drink altogether.
Or you could just commit. Drink lots of water and sit in places where it is inappropriate to drink.

That is funny my jokes are not often understood too... and yes I just got bored with that...

 

[HDINTP]

INTPs can have a kind of odd but dangerous relationship to alcohol. While addiction is, as Da Blob notes, something deep, what we can fall into is something else. This is something I read a long time ago that made sense, and no, I don't remember where I read it. Essentially, we drink because we are bored, it creates a pleasant zone where our normal troubles with emotions and whatnot are not a problem, and we can't think of a good reason to stop. In my case I ALWAYS drank to excess.

My solution for ending it was simply to stop, flat out, same as for alcohol addiction, and just ride out the time period required to, I guess, eliminate the attractiveness and not miss it any more.

I offer that in the event anyone thinks they're a typical alcoholic, where there are tremendous chemical and psychological situations to overcome. It manifests itself the same way, and there is a period of time in which the yearning for the alcohol is powerful, but it's just not the same.

In a sense I'm doing a typical INTP thing: I drank until I was competent at it and then got bored with it. :-)

Oh, and I don't kid myself about having a social drink, I know myself too well. It might not be chemical, but I see no reason to continually stress my will power. I just don't.

Yes yes got bored...

 

[Jennywocky]

Yes yes got bored...

This is really kind of funny, but the same thing happened to me. I liked drinking more (not beer, the fancy/hard stuff) in my 20's... and then just ... stopped.

Lost interest, basically.

 

[HDINTP]

This is really kind of funny, but the same thing happened to me. I liked drinking more in my twenties (not beer, the fancy/hard stuff) in my 20's... and then just ... stopped.

Lost interest, basically.

Hmm... good group here...

I never really liked hard drinks btw I have finally written what I have to do in next couple of days... so good.

 

[AlisaD]

In a sense I'm doing a typical INTP thing: I drank until I was competent at it and then got bored with it. :-)

Same thing happened to me with cigarettes
And possibly an even more entertaining story is about a friend of mine who was well on her way to become an alcoholic (was drinking substantial amounts of alcohol every day for about a year) and then one day just stopped because she ran out of booze and was too lazy to go out and buy more.
You could almost make a slogan out of it:
"Boredom and laziness: preventing addictive behavior in INTPs since 1921"

 

[skip]

One of my relatives was a functional alcoholic and he simply dropped dead one night. He had two young children. It was very sad. A ringing phone in the middle of the night still makes me anxious.

I'm Irish so I likely have the propensity for alcoholism in my genes anyway. That plus the fact that I'm uncomfortable around drunk people and I don't care for the taste of alcohol aside from some ridiculously expensive French dessert wines = I simply made the decision to stay away from it. I don't need the problems alcohol abuse causes.