How To Develop Ti.

[Nocturne]

Basically, as the title says, how do you develop your Ti?

Although right now I have a Ne dominant, the INTP profile relates to my own personality the most.

All replies welcome, even if irrelevant!

Much thanks. >.<

 

[Cognisant]

Be wrong a lot, learn from your mistakes.

 

[Etheri]

Be wrong a lot, learn from your mistakes.

Does that apply to basically everything you'd want to learn?

Question EVERYTHING. No matter who said it or how important it is, think it over and see if you can find the logic & rationality.

 

[intpz]

Be wrong a lot, learn from your mistakes.

Which function says "be right a lot, never do mistakes?"

 

[snafupants]

Philosophy, chess, psychometrics, cosmology, debate, writing, and math unlimber my Ti for everyday use. I plunge into areas I hardly understand and wade in that intellectual pond until I've achieved a fair bit of mastery. Three years ago, for instance, my chess strategy and skills were atrocious: pure patzer. Today I'm not a grandmaster but I feel I could hold my own in a park without getting hustled. Calculus is my new frontier - I was more inclined towards English than math in high school, especially because my math teacher hardly comprehended a lick of english (the green card jokes were as cruel as they were nonsensical), although I enjoyed Geometry because of its practicality and intuitiveness. I want to explore more of the nuances of probability theory too. Anyway, perhaps Ti is more a modality by which someone crafts a schemata of ontology or adumbrates (love that word) the underlying mechanics of any complex system. Based on this definition, I'd assume Ti would be most flexed and toned whilst engaged in new activities, which require categorization and deconstruction.

 

[Absurdity]

Study philosophy (especially logic and paradoxes), read constantly (preferably nonfiction), write your thought processes and describe your worldview, and go on a thousand-mile roadtrip with a genius ISTP and talk about everything.

That's what worked for me at least.

 

[Nocturne]

Oi. Thanks for the many responses.

Absurdity- "write your thought processes and describe your worldview"... Mm. That sounds like a worthy challenge. Usually my thoughts are so shortlived that I mistake my Ti for Te. >.< Much thanks.

snafupants- Chess! Hrm. I think I joined a chess club once and beat a bunch of schoolmates. However, I came home and played a few rounds with my uncle and ended up losing every round.
I never had any particular strategies. ...
Thnx!

Cognisant- Hmm... I think being wrong is ultimately inevitable. However, I think I understand what you mean. Much thanks, as usual.

 

[DelusiveNinja]

More ideas:
http://personalitycafe.com/intp-forum-thinkers/96807-lets-brainstorm-ways-develop-ti-3.html

 

[Architect]

Introverted Feeling (Fi) vs. Introverted Thinking (Ti)

ITPs spend much of their time finding clever ways to circumvent the Te system. Their lives can in many ways be understood as reactions to and against Te systems. They are constantly dodging or revolting against external pressures perceived as threats to their individualized methods and personal autonomy. Since capitulating to Te feels repelling, they often apply their Ti in entrepreneurial ways to carve out their own niche.

INTPs’ Introverted Thinking (Ti) vs. INTJs’ Extraverted Thinking (Te)

Rather than striving to make external systems more rational, the introverted nature of INTPs’ Introverted Thinking orients their rationality toward themselves and their own ideas, making them more idiosyncratic than INTJs. INTPs are largely concerned with ensuring that their own lives, worldview, and personal philosophy are rational.

So Ti is thinking directed inwards - i.e. towards oneself. Therefore trying to develop your Ti is self-referntially (or recursively) developing your Ti. Congratulations, this thread just ate itself.

 

[Architect]

That's one part of the equation. On the other side Ti is thinking driven inwards - not just inwards towards oneself, but inwards into systems. Architecture, analysis, design, these are all aspects of Ti an INTP is prone to. Whereas Te orients more towards external systems like creating company structures, rules and procedures. An analogy would be considering an endoskeleton versus exoskeleton.

These are shaped by what is in the auxiliary too, so saying "I want to develop Ti" is insufficient; develop it in what context? Compare the INTP (Ti-Ne) and the ISTP (Ti-Se) in software development. INTP's are best at finding the right overall solution and developing the overall architecture. This is Ti being modulated by Ne (broad and wide) to grasp the structural whole. ISTP's are usually dismissive of this approach, instead preferring to find an angle of attack and bulldoze a solution through the system (Se). Their concrete auxiliary eschews abstraction, preferring to dig deep into source code, whereas an INTP is happy working visually with diagrams and UML.

So what kind of Ti are you interested in? Ti also behaves differently when it's in the tertiary (INFJ) or inferior.

 

[Nocturne]

I see.

So, I assume it would be a good idea to confirm my type before I jump ahead to develop different shades of the function.

Although I have self introduced myself to MBTI for over a year now, I still can't seem to entirely relate myself to any singular type without deviating and doubting it in the span of a few weeks.

 

[r4ch3l]

These are shaped by what is in the auxiliary too, so saying "I want to develop Ti" is insufficient; develop it in what context? Compare the INTP (Ti-Ne) and the ISTP (Ti-Se) in software development. INTP's are best at finding the right overall solution and developing the overall architecture. This is Ti being modulated by Ne (broad and wide) to grasp the structural whole. ISTP's are usually dismissive of this approach, instead preferring to find an angle of attack and bulldoze a solution through the system (Se). Their concrete auxiliary eschews abstraction, preferring to dig deep into source code, whereas an INTP is happy working visually with diagrams and UML.

It confuses and fascinates me how differently Ti expresses itself in INTPs and ISTPs. I work on and off with my dad and sometimes it feels like we speak completely different languages. He used to fly all around the world in the '80s fixing the hardest hardware problems that nobody else at his company could figure out. Very solution-driven and works best under pressure...whereas I am more of a big-picture person who understands concepts and how they interact with one another. I can usually grasp very complicated things without any background at an abstract level. The specifics and the small, mundane problems frustrate me and throw my brain into a loop of overanalyzing and anxiety. He lives for debugging. Without a giant whiteboard I don't think we would be able to communicate.

 

[Architect]

I see.

So, I assume it would be a good idea to confirm my type before I jump ahead to develop different shades of the function.

Yes.

Although I have self introduced myself to MBTI for over a year now, I still can't seem to entirely relate myself to any singular type without deviating and doubting it in the span of a few weeks.

I've known it for 25 years and am still learning.

It confuses and fascinates me how differently Ti expresses itself in INTPs and ISTPs. I work on and off with my dad and sometimes it feels like we speak completely different languages. He used to fly all around the world in the '80s fixing the hardest hardware problems that nobody else at his company could figure out. Very solution-driven and works best under pressure...whereas I am more of a big-picture person who understands concepts and how they interact with one another. I can usually grasp very complicated things without any background at an abstract level. The specifics and the small, mundane problems frustrate me and throw my brain into a loop of overanalyzing and anxiety. He lives for debugging. Without a giant whiteboard I don't think we would be able to communicate.

Precisely.

 

[scorpiomover]

Question everything you are 100% sure of.

Pick something that you are 100% sure of. Then attempt to prove it, but only to yourself. Then rip your argument apart. Then find another one. Then rip it apart. Then keep repeating that, until you've proved it true, and you can't rip that argument apart, no matter how hard you tried, or until you've proved it false, and you can't rip that argument apart, no matter how hard you tried. If you've proved it false, then accept it. Keep your proofs and your conclusions to yourself.

Then move on the another thing that you are 100% sure of.

Keep doing that, all day, every day, until it becomes natural.

 

[scorpiomover]

It confuses and fascinates me how differently Ti expresses itself in INTPs and ISTPs. I work on and off with my dad and sometimes it feels like we speak completely different languages. He used to fly all around the world in the '80s fixing the hardest hardware problems that nobody else at his company could figure out. Very solution-driven and works best under pressure...whereas I am more of a big-picture person who understands concepts and how they interact with one another. I can usually grasp very complicated things without any background at an abstract level. The specifics and the small, mundane problems frustrate me and throw my brain into a loop of overanalyzing and anxiety. He lives for debugging. Without a giant whiteboard I don't think we would be able to communicate.

Ti is the same in Ti-Ne and in Ti-Se. Where they differ, is in their helper perceiving function. As we can see from all sorts of neurological studies, the brain's different functions and areas are all inter-related. They depend on each other, because a complex idea requires more than one component. Usually, something that we consider rather simple, is actually an extremely complex idea, that requires the interaction of multiple functions, in layer after layer, hundreds of times. They work TOGETHER. The result is that what the constant combination produce, is quite divergent from another similar combination.

E.G. Take a piece of paper. Dot some green dots all over the bottom of the page. That's what your retinal cells detect. How does that become "grass"?

Now realise that noticing grass, is probably one of the simplest things you can imagine. You probably do it without realising, and without even trying, all the time.

And that, is how the brain works.

 

[SpiralHacker]

If introverted thinking is either your dominant or supporting function, then just exercise detaching from the moment and thinking. Additionally, practice formal logic, categorizing things, mathematics, and weighing pros and cons. These are skills associated with the parts of the brain that introverted thinking uses when it is studied in EEGs.

 

[Nocturne]

If introverted thinking is either your dominant or supporting function, then just exercise detaching from the moment and thinking.

In relations, I am bent on either INTP or ENTP. Me thinks.