How powerful is extreme social intelligence?

[Words]

1. Social intelligence is intelligence related to how you deal with people, ability to understand people and their motivations.
2. Humans largely follow norms and expectations.
-we follw explicit legal rules
-we follow implicit social rules
4. Humans follow norms and expectations so much that it restricts their freedom.
5. Individuals are the ones that implements rules therefore the penalty to not following explicit and implicit rules is always dependent on the leniency of the implementor.
6. Therefore the socially intelligent person can get their way so long as they're able to deal with the rule-agent which is dependent on their level of SQ.

Argh, I'm not making sense, am I? I tried to make it into an argument but anyways, my point is what if there was this extremely socially intelligent person? What freedoms can this person have? how socially intelligent can a person be? Perhaps extreme social intelligence would parallel with being able to read another person's mind? So basically almost everything, so long as there is an agent, is possible given extreme SQ?

 

[tvrgvryen]

Very. Just look at Charlie Manson and his "disciples". Then again, he did make them smoke LSD.

 

[TimeAsylums]

Hitler, Manson, politicians

obviously with conditions being correct

CC made a similar thread/post on FJs anyway

you win popularity contests -> you win majority -> majority rules

 

[Base groove]

There is no item #3 in your list there is smoke coming out of my circuit board.

 

[Anktark]

I don't think IQ and SQ are two different things. Rather, it's the same thing in different forms and application. SQ is less about directly reading another person's mind and more about correctly guessing reaction probabilities to environment and situations. High SQ is helpful to better manipulate people.

 

[Words]

I know about the political power thing but what about daily applications in real life? It seems that just about everything can be solved via social intelligence. Its a useful shortcut to most problems. Being able to easily enter and exit social spheres without penalties...I wonder to what extent can it be used. What are the possibilities of extreme SQ?

I don't think IQ and SQ are two different things. Rather, it's the same thing in different forms and application. SQ is less about directly reading another person's mind and more about correctly guessing reaction probabilities to environment and situations.

Good point.

 

[Words]

There is no item #3 in your list there is smoke coming out of my circuit board.

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I don't know why I made that mistake.

 

[Anktark]

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I don't know why I made that mistake.

My best guess is that either you registered "-we follow implicit social rules" as an individual point without in your mind or forgot to reenumerate after compacting two points into one. Possible, but unlikely option is that Flying Spaghetti Monster touched you with one of His noodly appendages and made you do that just for laughs.

 

[Vrecknidj]

Watch the movie Catch Me If You Can for an example.

 

[Anktark]

Watch the movie Catch Me If You Can for an example.

Or any other piece on Social Engineering. Though the main idea of it is "Usually people will believe what they are told unless they have a reason not to".

 

[Goku]

1. Social intelligence is intelligence related to how you deal with people, ability to understand people and their motivations.
2. Humans largely follow norms and expectations.
-we follw explicit legal rules
-we follow implicit social rules
4. Humans follow norms and expectations so much that it restricts their freedom.
5. Individuals are the ones that implements rules therefore the penalty to not following explicit and implicit rules is always dependent on the leniency of the implementor.
6. Therefore the socially intelligent person can get their way so long as they're able to deal with the rule-agent which is dependent on their level of SQ.

Argh, I'm not making sense, am I? I tried to make it into an argument but anyways, my point is what if there was this extremely socially intelligent person? What freedoms can this person have? how socially intelligent can a person be? Perhaps extreme social intelligence would parallel with being able to read another person's mind? So basically almost everything, so long as there is an agent, is possible given extreme SQ?

The most socially intelligent person will end up relying on his own morals for guidance, because he will have successfully beat the system, so to speak, in every way. For example, he might have every judge, policeman, and district attorney in his back pocket, so that even common laws are not applicable to him.

[the bolded part, just to be nit picky, is actually better suited for the term "emotional intelligence"]

 

[sushi]

Hitler, Manson, politicians

obviously with conditions being correct

CC made a similar thread/post on FJs anyway

you win popularity contests -> you win majority -> majority rules

Hitler was a social retard.

Anyway, Bill gates prove the extreme lack of social intelligence doesn't matter.

 

[Words]

Watch the movie Catch Me If You Can for an example.

I think I've seen that. Did that character really portray "Extreme Social Int."? It seemed more like he was good at acting, which is not the entirety of Social Intelligence.

 

[Words]

The most socially intelligent person will end up relying on his own morals for guidance, because he will have successfully beat the system, so to speak, in every way. For example, he might have every judge, policeman, and district attorney in his back pocket, so that even common laws are not applicable to him.

hah, yes. I think "complexity" will hinder this person. It seems like the difficulty would increase as the number of people he has to contend with increases. It is easy to have one rule-agent at your side but the problem are the checks and balances between rule-agents.

[the bolded part, just to be nit picky, is actually better suited for the term "emotional intelligence"]

I'm incapable of distinguishing the two.