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I took a nap in my room when it was like 80-90 degrees and i woke up feeling completely lost,blank. I dont know if thats bad but my mind was so blank it took time to remember what i had done that day. It was a great feeling because i usually have a thousand things going on at once.
 

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I took a nap in my room when it was like 80-90 degrees and i woke up feeling completely lost,blank. I dont know if thats bad but my mind was so blank it took time to remember what i had done that day. It was a great feeling because i usually have a thousand things going on at once.

This happens to me when I am transitioning from a deeper dream state.
 

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I guess that can be a good remedy for rambling thoughts,
so, whenever you feel the need to get rid of them,
use this technique,
whenever you feel that this might take you off the track of your thoughts,
don't do it.
 

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it was a one time thing
 

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In that case, scrap my input.
Let's hold the thought that you value a blank state of mind from time to time.
Why is that so and what are the benefits and shortcomings?
Which one prevails, what is the more practical approach?
 

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Is it not normal to always feel kinda cloudy and bogged?(mentally exhausted)
 

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Certainly not as common as you may think.
Some things that come to mind:
Schizophrenia
Schizoid Personality Disorder
Anhedonia
Dysthimia
Dissociation
Attention Deficit Disorder
Autism/Asperger's Syndrome
Post-Traumatic Stress Syndrome
Burnout Syndrome

The list goes on.
 

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i think i got ptsd but idk, agian it was a 1time thing
 

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emotionally dull, sometimes melancholic
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Sounds like me when I wake up but my brain and body still needs sleep.
 

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I normally feel mental.

Feeling and thinking are very different processes. I would say it is impossible to feel a thought or to think a feel. Maybe you are only thinking you are mental. The fact that you feel your are mental must truly mean you are mental....

I personally enjoy the emotional dissonance as much as I think contradictorily. I suppose that can be a lot or a little as I have only stated the balance of this equation. Meaningless, is the word that results from these statemetns or perhaps senseless. Maybe crazy is but a true form of a reality hidden beneath the truth as truth is never found and always hidden behind the curtain of unknown and unknowable meaningless and senseless. The only cure for crazy is to know and yet to know is impossible or at least I think I know that...
 

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Feeling and thinking are different processes.

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An ahhhh icon face would have been more appropriate but that is assuming full reading comprehension. Well, i guess more understanding of intent. It is unlikely what I wrote would be understood as I barely understood it myself. I am glad you at least enjoyed the first sentence but it was only setting the path. It was not to inform in itself but to put the rest of my statements into context.
 

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@OP - I've had the same thing happen a couple of times. 'm not a neurologist, but think it could be related to part of the brain remaining unconscious and therefore not engaging when you wake up.

Don't think I have one mental state on average.. but what I default to when in solitude is a restful, contemplative state tinged with subtle sadness.
 

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Feeling and thinking are very different processes. I would say it is impossible to feel a thought or to think a feel. Maybe you are only thinking you are mental. The fact that you feel your are mental must truly mean you are mental....

I personally enjoy the emotional dissonance as much as I think contradictorily. I suppose that can be a lot or a little as I have only stated the balance of this equation. Meaningless, is the word that results from these statemetns or perhaps senseless. Maybe crazy is but a true form of a reality hidden beneath the truth as truth is never found and always hidden behind the curtain of unknown and unknowable meaningless and senseless. The only cure for crazy is to know and yet to know is impossible or at least I think I know that...

I agree with you on the differentiation of thought and feeling as separate contemplative processes, possibly located in relative "spiritually-anatomically" different spaces (take DAT grammar), but certainly have experienced the "think a feel, and feel a thought" as you indicate previously. I think that stemmed from the wisdom I obtained form science when I learned that emotion was the secret to memory (neurologically speaking, of course) but I enjoyed your latter paragraph immensely.

I associate with a lot of your conclusion indicated in the second paragraph. Much of that wisdom I obtained from Ecclesiastes (which is one HELL of a place, hue <--- you see what i did dar?, for an INTP to live, since it associates a simple explanation to much of the affliction of the INTP (and much of the human race, possibly): with wisdom comes sorrow. A sorrow our fellow is yet to reach, so we pursuit reaching it in each other via the routes of antiquated (though successful) systems such as MBTI, KT-IIs what have you. However, I'm not sure I agree the cure for crazy is to know. While "knowing" is certainly a subject of extensive relativity, I think "the belief that we can know" is the (possible) naivete my crazyness has become obsessed with, and found peace within. I enjoy your cerebral processes sir.
 

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An ahhhh icon face would have been more appropriate but that is assuming full reading comprehension. Well, i guess more understanding of intent. It is unlikely what I wrote would be understood as I barely understood it myself. I am glad you at least enjoyed the first sentence but it was only setting the path. It was not to inform in itself but to put the rest of my statements into context.

Well done!
 

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Re: waking up, I once woke up with absolutely no idea who I was, where I was or even what I was. I knew only the concept of "Whu?"

It only lasted a brief moment, though. Soon after a tsunami of information flooded by brain, and *pop* I was back.

As for how I feel normally, well... zoned out, disconnected. Blissful. My mind is a very tranquil place, occasionally irritated by people and their shit.
 

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I read that people with dominant Ni or Ne will feel hazy/ bogged down from so much mental stimulation, is this true for anyone else
also i dont mean literally dominant just not shadow/ inferior.
 

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I read that people with dominant Ni or Ne will feel hazy/ bogged down from so much mental stimulation, is this true for anyone else
also i dont mean literally dominant just not shadow/ inferior.

I would say that the Se/Si would get bogged down sooner; it is just that Ne/Ni often go the full marathon instead of taking a break to look at the scenery.

In other words, we are in our heads a lot more and put more wear on our minds.
 

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So the N types will always feel more hazy than the S types?
 

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I would say that the Se/Si would get bogged down sooner; it is just that Ne/Ni often go the full marathon instead of taking a break to look at the scenery.

In other words, we are in our heads a lot more and put more wear on our minds.

Doesn't Ti also run marathons in their heads as well, and also more likely to get bogged down as well? If not, what's the difference?
 

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Doesn't Ti also run marathons in their heads as well, and also more likely to get bogged down as well? If not, what's the difference?

???

Ne is what feeds Ti. Ti is just trying to organize and make sense of it. Ne keeps filling the inbox and Ti is getting irritated because he is getting more than he can sort through.
 

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I'm usually extremely pensive. I brood plenty. Even if I wash the dishes, vacuum, eat, play an instrument or a videogame it usually goes on in the background, as if muscle memory just took over specifically to allow me to continue brooding, not seldom about things as morbid as the true sadness behind child obesity, still there existing physical torture on this earth, contemplating the reasons a person I knew might have had to commit suicide, methods of capital punishment and the like.

Of course, thoughts are rarely linear. There's always tangents, explanations, complementary ideas, analogies and examples which fortify the making of a pattern.

I find myself not being very saddened at all by such things, but I do often feel it "helps me grow wiser". It probably doesn't, but after one of these sulking sessions, which usually last the whole day when they do happen, I feel grave, serious, mature. But not sad.

Most of the time I am fiery and passionate about the ways in which I try to better explain my conclusions and ideas and very very bored when "forced to look" at "the real world". The fact that turning outward tires and bores me out so much makes me feel very slightly angry: not at myself, but at others for disliking theory and the deduction-induction cycle and forcing their real-world-contemplating will upon me. :mad:

I am often tired mentally, as I sleep around thirty hours a week when not on vacations.

I feel rather sad at the absurdity of life and the need of pleasure (yet rarely do I feel sad because of other things).

I occasionally feel disgust at someone when they attempt to formulate logically coherent statements "backed by the facts" but are stubborn to modify their logic, their premises, their point of view or any combination of the above when outright (often by logic) proven wrong.

For example, an acquaintance at school was discussing with me the book Beyond Good and Evil. He asked me what words I would use to substitute "good" and "evil" to eliminate them -- use some more meaningful words instead. I replied that good is that which increases power, influence and control, and vicecersa. He went on to say, "To me, something is good if it meets your expectations, even if you didn't expect it".
I explained that it is impossible, by definition, to expect something to not meet your expectations for that very something. He got what I was saying, but tried to refute me with poor, poor circular logic and then tried to change the subject. I felt a little disgusted.



Most of all, I usually feel both alone and lonely (and I quite enjoy it) except when speaking to a particular INTJ friend.
 

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Lately I've been feeling limbic, formable, loose. I don't feel any urgency in anything and just let life live its course.
 

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I would say that the Se/Si would get bogged down sooner; it is just that Ne/Ni often go the full marathon instead of taking a break to look at the scenery.
I think it is more the case that different types get bogged down for different reasons. I doubt a strong Se user could get distressed by too many external stimuli, but inversely I (inferior Se) tend to mostly ignore external stimuli and easily get tired or anxious if I am forced to pay attention to them for too long. Instead I live a mostly quiet existence inside of my own mind and am constantly (unconsciously) developing the myriads of ideas contained therein. I don't really know what's going on inside the mind of an Si user but I imagine that they actively seek out coherence and harmony in their external environment in the same way that I do for my internal environment. In other words, an Si user's quality of mind is determined by the state of their external environment, whereas an Ni user's... just is not.

These are merely ideas I have been toying around with though.

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To answer the OP, at most times I feel as though my conscious mind is relatively empty, but I have noticed that my mental state in the long term is defined by long periods of seeming inactivity followed by short periods of rapid 'progress'. Despite this mostly lethargic state of mind, historically my difficulties with sleep, near constant mental fatigue, and sudden revelations lead me to believe that there is much more going on unconsciously than I realize. "Stream of ideas" is a concept that would probably be much more readily attributable to Ne, so I don't really know how to describe this phenomenon. I suspect this may also be related to my fascination with drone and certain altered states of consciousness, as I often feel that my brain doesn't shut up even when I want it to, and that can easily lead to real problems.

So the N types will always feel more hazy than the S types?

Assuming that what I described above about ignoring the external environment applies to all intuitive types, I could see that as being likely. In the past I have occasionally experienced a sort of psychosis where the past almost stops existing, and it makes every passing moment this ephemeral and almost spiritual experience, as if I only halfway exist in physical reality. Very interesting state.
 

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I took a nap in my room when it was like 80-90 degrees and i woke up feeling completely lost,blank. I dont know if thats bad but my mind was so blank it took time to remember what i had done that day. It was a great feeling because i usually have a thousand things going on at once.

I feel that way when I wake up dehydrated especially if I drank and took benadryl or one of the two. It's a pretty blissful state, I have to admit.
 

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New users, how do you all normally feel mentally?

maybe add your type as well ;)
 

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Dreams are nice.

Normally, I think.
Abnormally I don't.
I wonder what the other option is like.
Probably bliss.
 

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I think I would have to compare my thoughts/mental state to the works of Alfred Schnittke. Things whiz through my head so randomly and so quickly sometimes that I hesitate to call it thinking. I latch onto so few of them. But it's somehow melodic and soothing. The universe out of chaos.

It's like when you see a bicycle wheel spinning and you blink, or concentrate really hard, and you can see an individual spoke for a fraction of a second, and sometimes you can follow that spoke for another fraction before you mind lets it go. That's going on all the time. When I'm concentrating on something, I ignore most of the background buzzing, and when I'm zoned out (my resting state) then I just follow them like a cat follows a kaleidoscope of butterflies.

But if someone drags me out of my anti-meditation to ask me what I'm thinking, the only answer I can give is "I don't remember. I'm not thinking it anymore". Which is generally only half true. I could tell you what I was thinking over the last 30 seconds, but it would take me 2-20 minutes to fully explain, and ultimately, the telling is not what the questioner was looking for.
 

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I think I would have to compare my thoughts/mental state to the works of Alfred Schnittke. Things whiz through my head so randomly and so quickly sometimes that I hesitate to call it thinking. I latch onto so few of them. But it's somehow melodic and soothing. The universe out of chaos.

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discovered his music through watching films by larisa sheptiko, been listening to him obsessively these days
my fav rage music


anyway, to answer the OP:
i feel like im not properly experiencing the tangible world most of the time(esp the past 3 years). sometimes, when i take walks, it gets too weird and i get too overwhelmed, then i sort of forget the mechanisms of walking for like a minute or two(lol)
 

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Certainly not as common as you may think.
Some things that come to mind:
Schizophrenia
Schizoid Personality Disorder
Anhedonia
Dysthimia
Dissociation
Attention Deficit Disorder
Autism/Asperger's Syndrome
Post-Traumatic Stress Syndrome
Burnout Syndrome

The list goes on.

So many disorders... Majority of which aren't real disorders, just the nature of the human mind.
 

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Lately i've been feeling really angry about everything, i was about to break one of my guitars (i'm not rich to buy another one so that was a really full of anger episode), i have deal with it by doing drugs. It has to do with a person that i don't want in my life anymore but i have to deal with the fact that she's going to be there for a while in my same circle of things.
hahah nah joking with the drugs thing, i'm recovering from it, i think it comes to a point where you have to break emotionally, from then on you start feeling better.
 

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A clear and tranquil mind, but .... swampy? A lack of consistent enthusiasm or interest in things, despite some desire. Can't think of the last time my mind was stimulated for a good duration. Lots of peaking colors, but ultimately mass grey.
 

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Usually either a brain fog or a state of heightened and difficult to control distractions and jumping from topic to topic.
 
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