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How do you develop Fe?

Zionoxis

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Alright, I have recently be hiding under the facade that I had a developed Fe. I felt like I was being plenty expressive with my emotions. Due to a certain change of events, I realized that many people have no idea what emotion I am feeling even when I thought I was accurately portraying it. In addition, I have realized that though I can read body language from all I have read, I still have trouble picking up on emotions from tone of voice, and natural skills that should be gained from a developed Fe function.

My question is, how would I go about developing it enough to express what I want without feeling like I am blowing the entire thing out of proportion and in addition, to gain the ability to better read those around me?
 

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For 'reading' people, you could simply try asking people how they feel whenever you think you could benefit from it or read a book about body language.
 

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For 'reading' people, you could simply try asking people how they feel whenever you think you could benefit from it or read a book about body language.

I have read on body language, but often times, I can get a vague idea, but still I am rather unsure. As for asking, one must consider if they are giving an answer simply to meet the social criteria or giving a sincere answer. If you see someone crying and you ask them how they are doing, many will still say "fine".
 

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Alright, I have recently be hiding under the facade that I had a developed Fe. I felt like I was being plenty expressive with my emotions. Due to a certain change of events, I realized that many people have no idea what emotion I am feeling even when I thought I was accurately portraying it.

You will never develop Fe to the point of ready access fluency, if you are an INTP.

Fe will improve your ability to understand what is going on around you in the context of social expectations and obligation. Fe will strengthen Ne in the sense that you will now be able to see more possibilities and connections for the simple fact that you now better understand human motivation and behavior, and can use this as a tool. But in terms of open expression that you'd use as a Fe dominant, that won't happen.

My question is, how would I go about developing it enough to express what I want without feeling like I am blowing the entire thing out of proportion and in addition, to gain the ability to better read those around me?

Understanding of your needs and motives and recognizing yourself as more than the observer? Idk - kind of a mixture between being detached enough from your emotions to control them, but involved enough with that side of you such that you recognize what you want and what needs changing.

In terms of practical things you could do, maybe you need to build up "scar tissue". Like placing yourself in situations you'd normally avoid, or, if you are serious about gaining more skill in emotional expression, you could start taking drama courses? It could just be your own natural body language - different types expressing different range of motions (facial & body expression) and all that.
 

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You will never develop Fe to the point of ready access fluency, if you are an INTP.

Fe will improve your ability to understand what is going on around you in the context of social expectations and obligation. Fe will strengthen Ne in the sense that you will now be able to see more possibilities and connections for the simple fact that you now better understand human motivation and behavior, and can use this as a tool. But in terms of open expression that you'd use as a Fe dominant, that won't happen.



Understanding of your needs and motives and recognizing yourself as more than the observer? Idk - kind of a mixture between being detached enough from your emotions to control them, but involved enough with that side of you such that you recognize what you want and what needs changing.

In terms of practical things you could do, maybe you need to build up "scar tissue". Like placing yourself in situations you'd normally avoid, or, if you are serious about gaining more skill in emotional expression, you could start taking drama courses? It could just be your own natural body language - different types expressing different range of motions (facial & body expression) and all that.

For instance, I have done drama, but my biggest problem is I often have trouble with how much expression is too much to be socially acceptable and still get my point across. Given my constant habit of hating to take risks, I often undershoot and thus, do not give enough expression. In some cases, I wish to be more than just an observer as an observer cannot develop personal relationships. At the same time, the social handbook does not very well exist and must be learned. I have a basic grasp on social regulations, but I feel like a man who is trained to eat at a Thanksgiving table is going to a 5 star restaurant for the first time.
 

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For instance, I have done drama, but my biggest problem is I often have trouble with how much expression is too much to be socially acceptable and still get my point across. Given my constant habit of hating to take risks, I often undershoot and thus, do not give enough expression.

What I do is just exaggerate every emotion I wish to express. I turn small inconveniences into great tragedies, and small fortunes into the greatest thing that's ever happened. I am known for being completely dispassionate about everything, so when I display emotion, it's usually understood that I'm sarcastically exaggerating it. I wonder if people realize that it's because I have no way of regulating my expressions to normal levels.
 

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Smoke weed, it really helps to develop your F (Fe and Fi,) and Se.
 

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You don't need to develop Fe to be readable and friendly. You need to develop Ne.

Ne will help you not only be friendlier, but avoid depression and dom-tert loops. Trying to develop Fe will frustrate you and put you INTO a dom-tert loop.

Try taking up a hobby that nurtures Ne but is something Ti can get its hands into. Like writing.
 

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My question is, how would I go about developing it enough to express what I want without feeling like I am blowing the entire thing out of proportion and in addition, to gain the ability to better read those around me?
Seriously. I wouldn't advice developing it. It's my impression that it's best developed by professionals, the ones who are wired for this.
 

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Smoke weed, it really helps to develop your F (Fe and Fi,) and Se.

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It does!

I would say don't try too hard... My friends recently thought it was a good idea to practice "exposure" to help me get over what they perceive is a fear of affection (that's what happens when you watch too much TV- Thanks A&E! :beatyou:)

I HATED it. First off, I didn't even volunteer for it. They just would pounce on me like i was a wild animal and then hug the shit outta me until I was agreeable. Which never happens. It seems to be a joke to them that I just need to be "Exposed" to the thing I am in fear of and I will get over it. I say if you are not a feeling type, it will not become any more comfortable to learn to be one. It will all seem trite and overwhelming.
I mean, but that's just me :)
 

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The best way to learn is through experience. You've got to be willing to throw yourself out there and try things out, mess up, and do it again.

Whenever you are in a discussion, check your values and opinions about the topic, then express them. It's rather intuitive, I have a theory about the pick up industry or any instructional material on how to interact with people. In my mind, I don't think these things existed a century past. I think we have become so insulated from each other, in so many different ways, that we are unable to learn simple social norms that everyone took for granted not too long ago. So revert back to the days of yesteryear, and get out there. Do stuff with people. Learn through experience, and try not to deaden your sensitivity to dopamine.

If you have any addictions or hobbies that presses that dopamine lever, then you will become desensitized to daily pleasures, including interactions with people. That's a little more technical, but I'm sure if you're really interested, you'll have the tenacity to figure it out.
 

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I HATED it. First off, I didn't even volunteer for it. They just would pounce on me like i was a wild animal and then hug the shit outta me until I was agreeable. Which never happens. It seems to be a joke to them that I just need to be "Exposed" to the thing I am in fear of and I will get over it. I say if you are not a feeling type, it will not become any more comfortable to learn to be one. It will all seem trite and overwhelming.
I mean, but that's just me :)

I think Fe is something you need to develop and try out yourself, not something that is simply "forced" upon you by others. I myself need to learn in my own pace and this goes for a lot of things. I get extremely stressed if someone tries to force me to do something I really need to take my time for. It's almost counterproductive even, because it usually pushes me back further. But that's just something I need to manage, I guess. There will always be bossy people.

So, experiencing.
 
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