How do you deal with SJ types ?

[lillith]

I just don't understand how they think and why they are so narrow-minded. Like wtf, they seem mentally challenged. Just corpo-zombie who makes money doing boring stuff, no fun, no creativity, rigid as fuck. They suck at thinking on their own and are basically products of their environment, because they don't have their own personality. How do you deal with them ? I have ISTJ sister and I still can't decipher her. Like what the point of living for them ? I have never had real discussion with her and I am really not even sure if she likes me. Ok I avoid these SJ people overall but she is my sister so I try to be good to her. But I don't get her. Anybody knows how SJ types really think or have sources so I will try manipulate her if I can't be myself. She is like super pissed off when I question things and think on my own.

 

[SteppeWanderer]

There are those SJs that are super high strung and really tuned into their environment and and are easy or quick to label you as being defective or flawed because you don’t easily adhere to or fit into the surrounding environment. Say you’re from a colorful background, or you’re just really unique for whatever reason. You have a lot of little quirks, personal idiosyncrasies. They’ll just eat into you, like literally you don’t comply with the program, and there certainly is a program.

A lot of things though that I feel people potentially place on SJs does not make someone an SJ for sure though. Like, being too much of a conformist, and a follower, being fickle, quick to judge and label people, being very traditional, almost anyone can have these tendencies, so it’s hard for me to know for sure if someone is an SJ for sure, I can only stand back and go “oh, another conformist” being a true individualist can subject you to regular beguiled reactions and responses.

But I used to love comic books as a child, I was obsessed, I wanted to be a comic book artist and I spent most of my time drawing, I was outcasted and couldn’t find anyone else who liked comic books, now that they’re more popular and widely accepted, it’s more common now to find SJs who like things like that, so due to what you could call progress maybe, SJs are slightly more tolerable, I almost like some of them. But then there’s the program thing, it’s probably more common with sensors in that if you don’t adhere to same actions, beliefs then you’ll be perceived as being defective which is really easy.

 

[LOGICZOMBIE]

you don’t comply with the program

YOU'RE NOT INTEGRAL TO THE PROJECT

 

[birdsnestfern]

They want you to join their team and serve them. This doesn't work with us because we are too independent.
Anyone not on their team is seen as a threat to them. They don't understand that anyone could think differently from them?
Its about serving their ego and we just don't fit that model. You never want to say too much to them, just be frenemies and realize anything you say in confidence will be spilled to whoever they can entertain. Chalk it up to them being a different monkey you don't want to play with, and say as little as you can while using manners and be as kind as you can. They know not what they do. Its like, you are awake and can only hope your light will help them wake up eventually too, but not likely in this lifetime.

 

[ZenRaiden]

Its hard to say because blind obedience aka conformism, is actually a good survival strategy, given that 99 percent of things you do is simply following someone who say something.
In modern world conformism is pretty quick way to good life, even in politics or religion or hierarchy at large.
Very few times you are told to figure it out and understand something.

I don't think SJs are necessarily conformist.
For instance ISTJ are logical. They will follow logic, and if that leads to non conformism they will not comply.
They be like "hang on this is wrong, let me fix it!"