Hard time learning at school, help!

[Venture]

I have like the same exact problem with school except I caught my selfin the middle of 7th grade. In 6th grade on every progress report I had 3or 4 Failed classes and had to go to summer school. At the beggnng of 7th grade I told my self was actually going to do good but fell right back into my old routine of not turning n assghnments not dong homework etc. by the 1st report card I had 4 F's
one D and a B. So my mom went in for a meeting with all of my teachers and I had to go to an hour of tutorng and homework sesson in the ,lbrary after school.

So after a month I got a yellow slip to go to the library for my counselor and princable to tell us about how bad we were doing so my mom decided to homeschool me. And took me out before failed the 7th grade I am still homeschooled now but am going to charter school and maybe highschool but for 9th grade i wll be in charter school because I really cannot handle school and I gain knowlodge and learn different ways witch I think you should do If you are still in high school.

 

[Atriamax]

School is a funny place for me. English i cheat my way through, play my DS everyday in it and just copy an work from other people, solely because i dont care at all for the subject and cant even force myself to. History i sleep in because its 1st period, i just copy the homework when the teacher explains it, test are easy. Math i play my DS in the entire time, not because i have no interest, but because its too easy. everyone in the class hates me because i get 95s on my tests when i pay zero attention and take no notes. science i pay almost 100% of my attention in and have an A because it all makes sense to me.
So school hard? nah. annoying? yes, boring? yes, waste of my time? yes.
I learn what i care about and cheat through what i dont care about, gets me the GPA i need.

 

[Seducer of the Homeless]

Schools were not designed to serve INTPs or any one with above average intelligence. I spent 12 years daydreaming in public school. I don't believe I learned anything of value during that experience. However, I spent most of my free time in the Library self-educating my Self at my own pace and my own level..

yes, i have decided to teach myself the English Language, Science and History, i fear for my actual class grades however. i spend most of my time at school mocking and insulting idiots (it is win-win, they don't understand what i say)
and questioning the question rather than answering the question.

 

[myexplodingcat]

Learn how things work, and then you'll be interested in them. Google stuff. Often, people who don't know that they're INTPs (or ENTPs) are on the Internet and helping people with classes. Your motivation comes from interest. Cultivate interest.

As for me + math, if you care... I understand what I'm doing, but when asked to explain it, I have to explain the long train of thought that my brain went through to remember which rule I'm using, and NOBODY understands that. It's like I look at the problem, and if I've forgotten which rule to use, I think so deeply about it that it's like I'm writing the rules for the first time, before anyone else came up with them. I find it interesting, but it's a real disadvantage on a timed test. Though sometimes it does mean that even if I don't get all the questions done, I end up with the highest score, especially on multiple choice questions.

This might be the way other INTPs work, or it might just be me, but I think it's INTP.

 

[Dimensional Transition]

I'm in the exact same position as you. My grades have never been this low, I hate school and I don't like most of the people either with a couple of exceptions.
It's all just repetition after repetition about shit you don't like, and then when you finally get a subject you're interested in it's over in a few lessons, boom poof bang gone.(And even then I don't get amazing grades because they ask about stupid specific stuff that's really irrelevant to the whole thing... )I don't know any tricks, and I haven't read the entire thread yet, but I will after posting this. This was just my first response.

 

[Solitaire U.]

Wanted to jump down here and respond without reading any of the replies before mine...disregard any repetitious parts.

So well, do you have any idea on how i can trigger that hyper-learning mode in my brain? Or generally fix my problem of geting involved and MOTIVATED in things i dont care or want to do.

Hyper-learning mode...I have no idea what that is. It sort of sounds like what I would have called 'methamphetamine' 20 years ago, but that's not an option I'm willing to endorse for anyone else...

Seeking motivation to do things you sincerely don't care about is only worth the effort if it's obligatory to some higher achievement. Perhaps you're simply not goal-oriented at this time...I don't see any reason to consider that a bad thing per-se, but this might at least allow you some insight on why you lack motivation.

I'd advise you to stop perceiving this as you failing to apply yourself. You specifically mentioned a lack of inspiration for math...perfect example. Math is utterly devoid of creativity...a discipline. It neither produces ideas nor sets them in motion, for it it's just the lines on the paper, the template, the defined parameter. Technique, improvisation, and any other real-time-oriented skill cannot be applied. Essentially, math is an infinitely-repeating set of pre-defined processes. Perhaps it was comparable to architecture and engineering during it's developmental era, but it has since evolved into a highly-automated process requiring little more adeptness than that of an assembly-line worker. (Due respect to fellow members who are aspiring practitioners, that's just TWISI.)

You exhibit the resolve to NOT comply with a status-quo pursuit that could very well equate to nothing more than traditionalist motivations of the majority. Just my own personal opinion here, but that alone implies possibilities far beyond even the severest mathematical aptitude. I advise starting over again from this aspect, because if you don't care and don't feel motivated that doesn't necessarily mean YOU are failing. Far more likely you're not being served.

There are always alternate routes. When used correctly, a working knowledge of applied math combined with a scientific calculator can circumvent huge obstacles. Provide some basic ideas of your inclined interests, and a general idea of where you're located (cultural considerations are important), and go from there.

(And forget about INTP for the moment...it's potentially counterproductive to the task at hand. Gospel is best kept at arms length, where it can be viewed in it's entirety. You'll have plenty of opportunities to cage yourself within a stereotype on down the road, I promise).

 

[Solitaire U.]

Fucking zombie threads piss me off. I have better things to do with my time than waste it responding to ghosts every time someone exceeds their quota of up-to-date self-description excuses and decides to go diving into redundancy. I'd rather watch an hours worth of writing vanish in the blink of a page refresh than have it survive to a state of completion for no fucking purpose.

breech of etiquette...fix this.