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Hallucinogen Persisting Perception Disorder, HPPD

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The point of this post is to try to compare how HPPD effects someone with an INTP personality. I'll start with some information.

From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucinogen_persisting_perception_disorder):
"Hallucinogen Persisting Perception Disorder or HPPD is a disorder characterized by a continual presence of visual disturbances that are reminiscent of those generated by the ingestion of hallucinogenic substances. Previous use of hallucinogens is needed, though not sufficient, for diagnosing someone with the disorder. For an individual to be diagnosed with HPPD, the symptoms cannot be due to another medical condition. HPPD is distinct from flashbacks by reason of its relative permanence; while flashbacks are transient, HPPD is persistent. HPPD is a DSM-IV diagnosis with diagnostic code 292.89."

"There are a number of perceptual changes that can accompany HPPD. Typical symptoms of the disorder include: halos surrounding objects, trails following objects in motion, difficulty distinguishing between colors, apparent shifts in the hue of a given item, the illusion of movement in a static setting, air assuming a grainy or textured quality (visual snow or static, by popular description), distortions in the dimensions of a perceived object, and a heightened awareness of floaters. The visual alterations experienced by those with HPPD are not homogeneous and there appear to be individual differences in both the number and intensity of symptoms.

Visual aberrations can occur periodically in healthy individuals – e.g. afterimages after staring at a light, noticing floaters inside the eye, or seeing specks of light in a darkened room. However, in people with HPPD, symptoms are typically so severe that the individual cannot ignore them and HPPD is associated with new visual disturbances. It does not appear to merely increase those already in existence.

It also should be noted that the visuals do not constitute true hallucinations in the clinical sense of the word; people with HPPD recognize the visuals to be illusory, or pseudohallucinations, and thus demonstrate no inability to determine what is real (in contrast to, e.g., Schizophrenia)."

The symptoms that I exhibit in order of intensity are: Visual Snow, Palinopsia, Starbursts, Trailing-Images, Light-Halos, and Floaters that take the form of protozoan-like shapes that fall through my vision from top to bottom while moving in elliptical or figure-eight patterns.

Visual Snow causes the most problems for me. What it looks like: http://www.visionsimulations.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=78&Itemid=171 - background 5 with a flicker rate of 3 and snow density of 60 is the best example of what I experience. The other symptoms are rather minor in comparison and I don't really notice/pay attention to them unless I feel like it. The Visual Snow I can't even begin to ignore though, and it tends to to lead to thought patterns along the lines of reality being a fabrication, that I can see through the world, that I can see some kind of life force everywhere, etc. Constantly having such a disruption in my vision sometimes materializes in a nihilistic manner in which I believe the world is not real, and nothing I do matters... in the past having led to me doing some very dangerous things such as taking heroic drug doses, or exhibiting very manic and self-destructive behavior while driving or other potentially dangerous activities (driving at 100+ miles an hour on rural highways, climbing cliffs with little training or experience etc). The behavior is very closely linked to strains of thought that have their root in the visual disturbances I experience. Most of the time I don't have a problem living with this, but when it does cause disruptions in my life, they can be big. I'm aware that placing belief in these hallucinations is somewhat Schizophrenic, but that's been brought to the attention of more than one Psychiatrist and none of them felt treatment was necessary as the episodes are rare.. they just suggested talking about it openly with people around me and researching the phenomena thoroughly which works most of the time.

Does anyone else have HPPD or something similar? What effects does it have on your life? How do you deal with it?
 

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I never had anything that severe. I have recently gotten over having a panic attack disorder which eventually led me to this intense fear which I can only describe as being detached from myself and coming to the sudden realisation that I am me.
I explained this to my GP and he was familiar with it and told me the name of it which I forgot.
Sometimes I feel so detached I feel like I am just observing myself and that I am on autopilot. I fear that I might just do something nuts because I've become so detached.
 

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Detached is a good word for what I feel.. I have this constant visual disturbance that feels like it's between me and the world. And just to clarify.. The earliest I can remember this is when I was 5 or 6 years old, though it got much more severe after I started playing with hallucinogens.
 

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Yeah I imagine that would be pretty bad.
Maybe you should stop taking hallucinogens. With the way my mind works and from experience with weed I know that I would freak out or have problems if I took hallucinogens, my thoughts are tripped out as it is. Even better, you could stop taking drugs completly
 

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I haven't actually had any increase in symptoms for years now, and I'm not particularly worried about it with the way I use drugs now.. which is to say I use them in much more controlled settings, at more controllable doses, and nowhere near as often (from daily to once a month or less). As opposed to my old habits which involved taking very high doses and mixing a lot of different substances - often while alone.. sometimes miles from civilization. For all the bad things that I've experience with drugs, I feel like I've gained much more.. and I know which ones I like and which ones throw me for a loop now.. most of the experimenting is done.
 

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I never had anything that severe. I have recently gotten over having a panic attack disorder which eventually led me to this intense fear which I can only describe as being detached from myself and coming to the sudden realisation that I am me.
I explained this to my GP and he was familiar with it and told me the name of it which I forgot.
Sometimes I feel so detached I feel like I am just observing myself and that I am on autopilot. I fear that I might just do something nuts because I've become so detached.

Depersonalisation?
 

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Thanx banana mango
 

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I'm sorry to bring up an old thread but its rare to find someone who can relate with me so closely. I recently went through a similar experience, during a bad trip I started comparing the visual snow with the pixelation/static seen on television screens or computer monitors which led me to believe that everything is a virtual reality. Combine this with scientists who say it is highly probable that we are living in a simulated reality and you get one freaked out depersonalized mess. Derealisation is a very scary thing, and I have had my fears about schizophrenia and what not. If you are reading this thread, I will tell you this: stop thinking about it. I told myself this "These negative thoughts could or could not be true. The fact of the matter is, these visual disturbances are not harming me. If this isn't real, it doesn't matter anyways, all that matters is the reality I experience. Its real enough for me."

Everytime you think about the snow tell yourself: "These negative thoughts are not helping me. I am going to replace this thought with a positive one."
 

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My HPPD went away after taking a long break from computer use.

I saw tracers and trails. Also visual snow. All of it has gone away after being hospitalized and seperated from my computer for a month.
 

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Thanks for describing this I have had visual snow for most of my life, I had assumed everyone had it. At least I know what it is now, I always called it a blemish in my sight before. I also seem to have these lines in my sight that look a bit like lightning flashes. It's like a bit of my sight is scarred. I get the halos quite a lot as well. I havn't taken any of the drugs described above before though. I should probably avoid them if I already have minor symptoms, lol.
 

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I've got very mild visual snow. Perhaps around the density of 5 on that simulator.
I get starbusts, but I'm always wearing either glasses or contact lenses which are probably the cause.
I also get annoying floaters like you described too.
I also have tinnitus, but fairly mild so I usually only notice it when I'm lying in bed at night.

The thing I find interesting is that despite my tinnitus, I seem to have sharper hearing than most people. Although I can't hear quieter sounds, I do notice sounds that other people don't.
visual snow and tinnitus are generally thought to be neurological, and I think that they arise from the brain not filtering out background information as effectively, but this may have the side effect of certain useful information not being filtered.
 

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I know exactly what you mean with the tinnitus Cogwulf, same situation here. I'm glad I'm not the only one.
I don't have HPPD, but I have experienced a lot of depersonalization and derealization since last year. It has become less severe, but at some point a few months ago I would actually stop feeling my body, too. It was like being a ghost inside a fake reality... Really creepy.
 
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