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BurnedOut

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I wanted to type out an entire paragraph of Hahas but it cannot adequately express the disdain I have for it.

As homeopathy evolved, other “laws” were also discovered. The law of infinitesimal doses was actually a late development by Hahnemann, but today is often thought of as the primary characteristic of homeopathy. This law states that when drugs are diluted in either water or alcohol, they actually increase in therapeutic potency. Today, serial dilutions of 1:100 repeated 6 or 30 times are commonly used. Between each dilution the substance is violently shaken, which is thought to be necessary to activate the properties of the drug.
Source: https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/reference/homeopathy/ (LOL)

There should be a survey for all the homeos. They should be asked if they prefer ultra-ultra-ultra-ultra diluted liquor (like a tincture of ethanol in the ocean) or normal liquor.
 

Cognisant

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Do a video of yourself adding a single drop of poison to a city's water reservoir and see how many homepaths lose their minds.
 

mikrokosmos

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If the idea were to slowly acclimate the body to a certain drug by introducing small, diluted doses of it, I could see why people might buy into that. But the idea of dilution making the drug more potent and that vigorous shaking activates the drug... just boggles my mind.

I find the whole situation upsetting... that those who should be working towards improving public health are doing the opposite, that there are people ignorant or desperate enough to be duped... It's worse when people close to you fall for the pseudoscience.
 

ZenRaiden

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I think it was some german doctor who invented it.

I am not sure homeopathy is interesting, but its worth looking into.

Its one of those nice thing you can look at and wonder... why would anyone believe it.

SO I think scientist should actually look into homeopathy to figure out why people believe nonsense.

Recently I heard a complete moronic theory that some how aspirin can cure or protect against COVID>
 

scorpiomover

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I wanted to type out an entire paragraph of Hahas but it cannot adequately express the disdain I have for it.

As homeopathy evolved, other “laws” were also discovered. The law of infinitesimal doses was actually a late development by Hahnemann, but today is often thought of as the primary characteristic of homeopathy. This law states that when drugs are diluted in either water or alcohol, they actually increase in therapeutic potency. Today, serial dilutions of 1:100 repeated 6 or 30 times are commonly used. Between each dilution the substance is violently shaken, which is thought to be necessary to activate the properties of the drug.
Source: https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/reference/homeopathy/ (LOL)

There should be a survey for all the homeos. They should be asked if they prefer ultra-ultra-ultra-ultra diluted liquor (like a tincture of ethanol in the ocean) or normal liquor.
Several years ago, I was surprised to find out that in the UK, 4 different homeopathy hospitals were set up by the NHS, because although it didn't make sense to lots of people, the scientific evidence showed that homeopathy had such high rates of success that it was scientifically moronic not to fund it.
 

scorpiomover

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I think it was some german doctor who invented it.

I am not sure homeopathy is interesting, but its worth looking into.

Its one of those nice thing you can look at and wonder... why would anyone believe it.

SO I think scientist should actually look into homeopathy to figure out why people believe nonsense.
They did. But lots of people refused to accept the answers, because it wasn't "rational".

Recently I heard a complete moronic theory that some how aspirin can cure or protect against COVID>
As moronic as the idea that you can press some plastic boxes in your home, and expect that you can send an communicate with someone in an entirely different country that you've never seen?

What's next? Claiming that you can double the fighting force of the British Navy overnight, just by giving them a little bit of lime juice with their rum?
 

scorpiomover

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Claiming that you can double the fighting force of the British Navy overnight, just by giving them a little bit of lime juice with their rum?
Ultra-diluted rum*
100% rum. Water goes off after a couple of months. Sea voyages could take years. So they needed something for sailors to drink that could last for years.

That was also the problem. Fresh limes would go off. The fresh fruit & veg would last 2 weeks. Then for the next 6 months, they lived on rum and ship's biscuits, before they'd reach a port on their route.
 

Cognisant

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100% rum. Water goes off after a couple of months. Sea voyages could take years. So they needed something for sailors to drink that could last for years.
Grog, rum mixed with water, giving the crew undiluted spirits is a fast way to end up with a very drunk crew and you can't live off rum, alcohol dehydrates the body.

Water doesn't go off by itself, it's when you have dirty water and stuff can grow in it (like algae) then you have problems.
 

scorpiomover

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100% rum. Water goes off after a couple of months. Sea voyages could take years. So they needed something for sailors to drink that could last for years.
Grog, rum mixed with water, giving the crew undiluted spirits is a fast way to end up with a very drunk crew and you can't live off rum, alcohol dehydrates the body.
A sailor's life was a hard one.
Water doesn't go off by itself, it's when you have dirty water and stuff can grow in it (like algae) then you have problems.
Distilled water in sterile vacuum-sealed environments doesn't go off.

Do you think your average ship in the 18th Century was sterile or vaccum-sealed?
 

Cognisant

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Distilled water in sterile vacuum-sealed environments doesn't go off.

Do you think your average ship in the 18th Century was sterile or vaccum-sealed?
You can sterilize water by boiling it and barrels/casks were designed to be sealed airtight. You can't seal water with a vacuum because it boils into a vapor.
 

scorpiomover

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100% rum. Water goes off after a couple of months. Sea voyages could take years. So they needed something for sailors to drink that could last for years.
Grog, rum mixed with water, giving the crew undiluted spirits is a fast way to end up with a very drunk crew and you can't live off rum, alcohol dehydrates the body.
Then why did ships carry rum?

Surely your argument would indicate that they would have banned all forms of alcohol on board ship, which would be the exact opposite of what they did.

Water doesn't go off by itself, it's when you have dirty water and stuff can grow in it (like algae) then you have problems.
Distilled water in sterile vacuum-sealed environments doesn't go off.

Do you think your average ship in the 18th Century was sterile or vaccum-sealed?
You can sterilize water by boiling it and barrels/casks were designed to be sealed airtight. You can't seal water with a vacuum because it boils into a vapor.
Maybe. But then why on Earth would they not carry enough water for the entire voyage?

Ships were often at sea for months. People die from lack of water after 2 weeks at the most. They can't drink sea water. That just makes sailors very ill.

So they needed to take supplies of water to keep them alive.

So why didn't ships carry enough supplies of water for all of the crew for the entire voyage?
 
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