Guess the IQ of the user above

[Hadoblado]

Why do I get the feel I'm being killed with kindness here?

My vision of the forum is one in which people can come and speak about things openly, especially that dialogue can help overcome issues. I will reiterate: I'm not telling you off for talking about IQ. I am questioning its perceived importance.

IQ is obviously important to a lot of people here for whatever reason. I feel as if that value is misplaced. Rather than tuck it under the carpet, I think we would benefit from talking about why it is so valued. Hell... now it's pretty obvious I've derailed. I'm gonna make another thread.

 

[Shieru]

Rather than tuck it under the carpet, I think we would benefit from talking about why it is so valued.

ah, well now you're asking people to introspect on the topic, and touch upon what may be subconscious insecurities. i love going to this sort of depth, but i think it can be quite uncomfortable for some - especially in a public discussion such as this.

what i got from this thread is that it was meant as a fun, lighthearted way of touching upon the topic of member's intelligence. perhaps (at least subconsciously) it's a passive attempt to see how others perceive the OP's intelligence. it is a bit cringe-worthy, as inevitably we're being compared to each other and 'ranked' according to our perceived ability to contribute intelligently/meaningfully. it's no secret that intelligence is valued by most of the members here, those with higher intelligence will be more likely to gain social approval. (of course, level of participation counts for a lot too, as in any community).

i know my own reason for participating in this thread was to see how i'm perceived by others here. IQ may be poppycock, the tests certainly seem sub-par to me, but it's a concept that people recognize as a description of intelligence levels. since intelligence = level of social appreciation here, i was curious to see how others accept me.

as with anything where honesty is involved, the possibility of hurt feelings exists. and with the type of cynical jesting that goes on, someone may misunderstand and feel put down. but, ideally at least, as 'INTPs' we could have a collective desire for truth that overcomes this sort of emotional drama. the reality is that we're perceived as we are by others, whether we know it or not. i think that by seeing this truth for what it is, we could perhaps inspire further questioning into ourselves and impetus for improvement. and for those who feel too vexed to accept the truth, they wouldn't have to participate.

 

[AndyC]

Indeed it was a way in which I could know the value of my contributions here, and knowing how the general audience, if at least a small audience here perceives me defeats some abiguity that may be encountered throughout the interactions I will have with other users. I thought it would be interesting to see how other's perceive eachother on the forum, and the implicit idea in guessing another's IQ avoids the standard measurement through tests in "What is your IQ", by simply approximating general intelligence appropriated to the contributions made on the forum. That was the purpose for this thread, yet I also recognized that the discussion and 'ranking' of IQ had it's bad reputation which was the hesitation I had in creating it.

 

[Black Rose]

Shieru seems to get it. One thing I would say is that Quick Twist said that he knows what I said is BS. Redbaron doesn't take this thread seriously and AndyC and Hadablado are skeptical that the person I know is 170 or is capable of what I said he is. If I were to make a relative judgment Shieru, Seteleechete and Rixus are closer to me than anyone else. At the extreme ends people say I am BS'ing and that is how I made my estimates. Whether those people agree or disagree with me at both ends. So even though some people I did say are above me that does not mean I value them more than the people I placed lower. I was also mixing in my feelings about their personality. I get along better with people that have my personality because they are more likely to believe what I say. Shieru was supportive of me when I was talking about my Anima. She is a very nice person.

 

[Rixus]

I was actually very hesitant to join this thread for just that reason. Especially as to measure my actual IQ, you'd have had to at least seen some of our maths abilities, spacial awareness or pattern recognition abilities, which aren't really evident in any discussion, your therefore rated on contribution, eloquence and likeability (when deliberate or not). The latter not being something I'll ever ask to know because I naturally believe it very low. But all the same, after braving it the answers for everyone are interesting.

Whether I see threads about IQs, though, I can't help thinking of Stephen Hawking's opinion of the subject

 

[RaBind]

Does this thread make anyone else feel 'icky'?

I think it feels icky because due to it's natures people are either going to be offended or flattered and since most people would rather not act like dicks the thread is naturally going to be circle-jerky.

 

[Black Rose]

Whether I see threads about IQs, though, I can't help thinking of Stephen Hawking's opinion of the subject

People like Christopher Hitchens have no problem explicating the insecurities of others.

Bill Mar cut out his interview of Davide Ike from his movie religulous because he could not take advantage of his beliefs for the use of his ridicule. He could not make him look like a fool.

 

[QuickTwist]

@Hado, Its called fun. You should try it sometime.

 

[Hadoblado]

My IQ is too high for that shit :P

 

[QuickTwist]

My IQ is too high for that shit :P

You're never too smart to have fun.

 

[Grayman]

I was trying to come up with another stupid grayman comment but then I realized you all stole my lines!

 

[Shieru]

seems we've left you a rather gray man in a rather gray area

(was that stupid enough?)

 

[Rixus]

i know my own reason for participating in this thread was to see how i'm perceived by others here. IQ may be poppycock, the tests certainly seem sub-par to me, but it's a concept that people recognize as a description of intelligence levels. since intelligence = level of social appreciation here, i was curious to see how others accept me.

And what did you learn? I've noticed you seem to have a particular interest in how you are perceived. It makes me curious. Especially as you don't share much of your opinions of others that I've noticed.

I know the two guesses I had were higher than I expected, but naturally I always expect people to have a very low opinion of me.

 

[Minuend]

135

Wait, are we not doing this anymore? Cringey? Maybe, or maybe we haven't meta'ed far enough to where we don't find it cringy anymore The only way to out-cringe yourself is to really head far down into the steep deep cringy well

 

[Shieru]

Wait, are we not doing this anymore? Cringey? Maybe, or maybe we haven't meta'ed far enough to where we don't find it cringy anymore The only way to out-cringe yourself is to really head far down into the steep deep cringy well

agreed! we need to science meta the shit out'a this topic

methinks your IQ is 130-135. EQ may be higher than that though, as you seem to 'get' the emotional flow of conversations fairly well.

And what did you learn?

well, it seems others neither perceive me as an idiot nor a genius, but something in the middle. i'm acceptable enough apparently, which is encouraging but also challenging to me. just knowing that the quality of my articulation could be more intelligent or inspirational motivates me to improve (which in this case, means being more extroverted, which is a challenge indeed!)

I've noticed you seem to have a particular interest in how you are perceived. It makes me curious. Especially as you don't share much of your opinions of others that I've noticed.

heh ^^ i tend to keep my thoughts to myself, yes. not trying to be stingy, i just don't usually have the impulse to share. the way i see things is a rather private matter by default; it's more about seeking my own answers and refining my own paradigm than it is about sharing that opinion with others. another thing is that i don't believe others would be interested in hearing what i have to say. i tend only to share my opinion when it seems warranted; when it can clarify or be helpful, or when it's asked for. (this especially pertains to thoughts i might have about other people, as i regard the individual self as a sacred topic not to be tread upon without permission).

the way i see social interaction is primarily as a medium for personal learning and development. the fulfillment of comradery is meaningful as well, but it's the potential for mutual refinement and growth that's always motivated me toward people. i tend to seek for and value other's opinions of me, because they provide a more objective window into my character. i think, we seldom see the manifestation of our self in as true a light as others are capable of. after all, it's difficult to properly conceive of a phenomenon you're stuck inside of! and everything we consciously perceive is filtered through the ego, with all its preconceived notions.

I know the two guesses I had were higher than I expected, but naturally I always expect people to have a very low opinion of me.

i'm not sure why you expect others to think lowly of you. of course, i can relate, just the fact of not fitting into society as others would expect you to can lead to a continuous sense of rejection. but, i think that the expectation itself can alter one's approach to others and lead to the very rejection one fears.

i'd guess your IQ to be around 130. you seem to have higher than average intelligence, and a wonderful sense of curiosity

 

[onesteptwostep]

120? I enjoy reading your posts, theyre well thought out and fluid.

 

[AndyC]

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[Black Rose]

https://illuminaticatblog.wordpress.com/2016/11/13/potential-intelligence/

https://illuminaticatblog.wordpress.com/2017/03/03/maximum-theoretical-iq/

 

[Rixus]

https://illuminaticatblog.wordpress.com/2016/11/13/potential-intelligence/

https://illuminaticatblog.wordpress.com/2017/03/03/maximum-theoretical-iq/

But that assumes that the entire mass of the human brain is solely devoted to information storage - which is simply untrue. It also appears to assume that IQ is solely described by the storage of information - and apart from a Wikipedia article on entropy of information, doesn't provide any sources to back up the claims. Especially as the ability to process information is at the heart of the test, not the ability to store and retrieve it.

It would be easier to have said that the highest recorded IQ was 230.

(BTW - everyone thinking "only" 120 or 130 or whatever. Do you realise less than 10% of people score 120 or above, and only about 2% of people score above 130?)

 

[Black Rose]

But that assumes that the entire mass of the human brain is solely devoted to information storage - which is simply untrue. It also appears to assume that IQ is solely described by the storage of information - and apart from a Wikipedia article on entropy of information, doesn't provide any sources to back up the claims. Especially as the ability to process information is at the heart of the test, not the ability to store and retrieve it.

It would be easier to have said that the highest recorded IQ was 230.

(BTW - everyone thinking "only" 120 or 130 or whatever. Do you realise less than 10% of people score 120 or above, and only about 2% of people score above 130?)

A person once told me that (Intelligence = Memory Modification at Spead). So yes your view of what intelligence is entirely valid. But what you do not recognize is that what I am presenting is a good way to formalize crystallized intelligence. You are focused on what is actually fluid intelligence. They both go together. Fluid intelligence is the rate at which crystallized intelligence increases. For example look at my drawing bellow. My visual crystallized intelligence sucks, its way to low. I cannot draw Anime girls. I cannot draw photorealistic images. People with high visual crystallized intelligence have a higher information compression of entropy. Both brains me and my sister have the same number of neurons but because her neurons have high entropy (Kolmogorov complexity) She can draw photo-realistically and I cannot. This has nothing to do with bell curve distributions that compare people in a relative way. This is a new model of intelligence by way of complexity. Fluid intelligence is the rate of increased complexity. Mental simulation is measured by the complexity of the simulation. Crystallized intelligence is exactly like the difference between how I draw and how my sister draws. Entropic complexity is a new method for understanding intelligence that does not need relative comparison because it is not based on sampling but based on the actual complexity of intelligence. IQ measurements are only as good as the number of samples you can collect and then factorize. But this does not mean (because of some test) that it is an accurate measurement of complexity.

Spoiler

 

[Rixus]

well, it seems others neither perceive me as an idiot nor a genius, but something in the middle. i'm acceptable enough apparently, which is encouraging but also challenging to me. just knowing that the quality of my articulation could be more intelligent or inspirational motivates me to improve (which in this case, means being more extroverted, which is a challenge indeed!)

I wouldn't say the guesses of you were in the middle, really. They were slightly higher than mine. Your posts always come across as very articulate and well thought out. But I (and I'm sure everyone here) is aware that raw IQ numbers relate to logical processing only - and I'd take a guess that you have particular skills in areas like English Literature, Psychology and would probably be an interesting person to go around an art gallery with a I'd imagine someone who would actually understand the more abstract works of art.

I guessed the high 130s because I've seen a general correlation between IQ and the generally articulate and thoughtful nature you display - but it's not an absolute correlation because they aren't exactly the same thing.

heh ^^ i tend to keep my thoughts to myself, yes. not trying to be stingy, i just don't usually have the impulse to share. the way i see things is a rather private matter by default; it's more about seeking my own answers and refining my own paradigm than it is about sharing that opinion with others. another thing is that i don't believe others would be interested in hearing what i have to say. i tend only to share my opinion when it seems warranted; when it can clarify or be helpful, or when it's asked for. (this especially pertains to thoughts i might have about other people, as i regard the individual self as a sacred topic not to be tread upon without permission).

Why wouldn't anyone be interested in what you have to say?

So you're interested to know how others perceive you, but like to keep your own opinions private? Or do you just feel you'd be intruding to state anything unless asked directly?

How would it have felt if people had suggested a lower number, say 105 or something? How would it have affected you?

the way i see social interaction is primarily as a medium for personal learning and development. the fulfillment of comradery is meaningful as well, but it's the potential for mutual refinement and growth that's always motivated me toward people. i tend to seek for and value other's opinions of me, because they provide a more objective window into my character. i think, we seldom see the manifestation of our self in as true a light as others are capable of. after all, it's difficult to properly conceive of a phenomenon you're stuck inside of! and everything we consciously perceive is filtered through the ego, with all its preconceived notions.

Reminds me of a lecture in my psychology class at Uni. The 3 selves - the self you believe you truly are, the self you believe others see and the self you wish others would see you as. A definition of confidence is where all 3 are very close.

i'm not sure why you expect others to think lowly of you. of course, i can relate, just the fact of not fitting into society as others would expect you to can lead to a continuous sense of rejection. but, i think that the expectation itself can alter one's approach to others and lead to the very rejection one fears.

Well, the answer to why my non-existent sense of self confidence is something I've left lying around on other threads, which you can look up if you're really curious. I would be curious to know your story if you read mine, though. Add your assertion that you believe people wouldn't value your opinion to the need to where the mask in the picture, and it makes my curiosity peak even more.

i'd guess your IQ to be around 130. you seem to have higher than average intelligence, and a wonderful sense of curiosity

You're not far wrong, actually. The last time I took the official Mensa test I scored 132, which is the cut off point for entry. It wasn't under test conditions so it didn't count - I thought about practising the test and taking it properly in order to gain entry but other than bragging rights I didn't really see much of a point.

Oddly, it's something that makes this thread a little nerve racking for me and relates to my confidence issues. Since it's the only thing anyone ever compliments (along with a lot of negativity about most other things about me), I've concluded that my intellect is one of the only good points I have. In fact, I often feel as though people wouldn't keep me around if I didn't have my intellectually helpful uses. So to leave myself open to being told I'm wrong about having even that in a place where that intellect is only average against other users is perhaps more difficult than it was to write out my life story.

 

[AndyC]

Couldn't be bothered to read through the last 2 posts but my understanding of fluid intelligence is the rate at which we update our credences for bayesian learning. I am a layman so this might be totally off or so simple is pointless.

I guess since I addressed that part of the purpose of this thread was to gather anecdotes to assess the value of my contributions, I will ask directly the value of such...?

 

[Black Rose]

Couldn't be bothered to read through the last 2 posts but my understanding of fluid intelligence is the rate at which we update our credences for bayesian learning. I am a layman so this might be totally off or so simple is pointless.

I guess since I addressed that part of the purpose of this thread was to gather anecdotes to assess the value of my contributions, I will ask directly the value of such...?

I hope you do read the last two posts because yes I do understand fluid intelligence (I explain concisely just that and more).

Your values her is really high. Your ability to add to conversations is extraordinary. You ask good questions and you respond with articulate answers. I highly value your content.

 

[AndyC]

Thanks, AK, I highly appreciate your input.

 

[QuickTwist]

999...9

Would have been better if 99.99...9.

 

[Black Rose]

Would have been better if 99.99...9.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_Nine_Society

 

[QuickTwist]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_Nine_Society

Yer. There are a lot of those. One for 1/1,000,000 I think too, or, something. Can't be arsed to check tho.

But I was thinking the IQ score would be 99.9...9, so just shy of average which I think is funnier.

 

[Shieru]

9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999...

 

[QuickTwist]

+1

 

[Shieru]

People with high visual crystallized intelligence have a higher information compression of entropy. Both brains me and my sister have the same number of neurons but because her neurons have high entropy (Kolmogorov complexity) She can draw photo-realistically and I cannot. This has nothing to do with bell curve distributions that compare people in a relative way. This is a new model of intelligence by way of complexity. Fluid intelligence is the rate of increased complexity. Mental simulation is measured by the complexity of the simulation. Crystallized intelligence is exactly like the difference between how I draw and how my sister draws. Entropic complexity is a new method for understanding intelligence that does not need relative comparison because it is not based on sampling but based on the actual complexity of intelligence. IQ measurements are only as good as the number of samples you can collect and then factorize. But this does not mean (because of some test) that it is an accurate measurement of complexity.

Animekitty - it sounds to me like you're describing the difference between Judgement and Perception. while the perception process constantly brings in and freely associates information, the judgement process delineates what's relevant and organizes that information into conclusions. the way you describe the existence of entropy/complexity and the ability to compress it with crystallized intelligence could be another way of describing the manner in which perception and judgement work together.

from what i've seen of you, you seem to have a high level of perceptive - or you could say intuitive - intelligence. you associate things from a broad range of topics into a single paradigm, and expand and refine that paradigm through further association. it's not so much the exclusive, conclusive method of judgement, but the open-ended, expansive method of intuitive perception.

I wouldn't say the guesses of you were in the middle, really. They were slightly higher than mine. Your posts always come across as very articulate and well thought out. But I (and I'm sure everyone here) is aware that raw IQ numbers relate to logical processing only - and I'd take a guess that you have particular skills in areas like English Literature, Psychology and would probably be an interesting person to go around an art gallery with a I'd imagine someone who would actually understand the more abstract works of art.

I guessed the high 130s because I've seen a general correlation between IQ and the generally articulate and thoughtful nature you display - but it's not an absolute correlation because they aren't exactly the same thing.

yes.. but there's still room for improvement! i'm not likely to be satisfied until my articulation is on par with that of people like Carl Sagan. we'll see if that ever happens shoot for the stars and you may land upon the moon, as they say..

/Ji perfectionism

interesting how accurate you are! truth be told, when tested in English, pattern recognition, symbolic logic, geometry and science without hard maths, I score in the 150s. put a lot of algebra in there and my score drops to 120 :P art and psychology are keen interests of mines. it'd be fun to go to an art gallery and psychoanalyze the meaning of the pieces ^^

btw, i really appreciate you sharing your analysis of me. i'm liking the more transparent direction this thread seems to be going in! i think at least part of the reason i have precise articulation is because i'm a Ti-lead.. (which i suppose reveals my opinion that many people on this and other typology forums aren't! ) but Ji, especially Ti, tends to be obsessive about refining its opinions, and very selective about the words used to explain those opinions; they must align and resonate just so.

Why wouldn't anyone be interested in what you have to say?

So you're interested to know how others perceive you, but like to keep your own opinions private? Or do you just feel you'd be intruding to state anything unless asked directly?

How would it have felt if people had suggested a lower number, say 105 or something? How would it have affected you?

i'm a bit torn about answering these questions here. i don't know if it's all too off-topic for the thread? (and i feel a bit of a jerk for talking about myself so much! >.> not used to that. and not sure if anyone else wants to hear so much about me!) i think i'll reply to the rest in a PM if that's ok?..

 

[Minuend]

I was actually thinking 140, creeping towards 150 for you, Shieru. I'm not really surprised people have guessed 120 and so, as you don't display the typical signs people tend to look for in intelligent people. Your ability to string information together and.. I guess it's what you referred to here seem to have a high level of perceptive - or you could say intuitive - intelligence. There is a type of "structured" intelligence (don't know what to call it) that do very well on iq tests, but they don't always have a high perception tagging along with it. In pure "brain powerz" they can do a lot of mechanical tasks. Ofc, sometimes that brain powerz comes with an high ability of perception as well. Some types of thinking do worse on tests compared to ability of comprehension and understanding information in a larger whole.

(I'm kinda trying to keep iq and intelligence somewhat separate things, but it's a tad difficult in a thread like this)

 

[AndyC]

Judgement is complex.

Depends on how you use Ti and the attention paid to articulation (which in Ti's case is very stop-start because they do not plan that they are going to say) when talking or writing I will use Ne moreso to look for possibilities and think about the content rather than the language and my articulation. And of course it also depends on information preference and one's environment and it's influences.

 

[Artsu Tharaz]

Given the high level concepts you regularly bring up, I would guess you're somewhere in the top 1%, which would be what, 140?

 

[Black Rose]

Given the high level concepts you regularly bring up, I would guess you're somewhere in the top 1%, which would be what, 140?

http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/iqtable.aspx

 

[redbaron]

I find it pretty unlikely that majority of the people here are in the top 1-2%.

I think most users on this forum are about 100-113, higher than your average population sample but I think nearly everyone who's trying to participate in earnest is quite prone to over-estimation.

 

[Rixus]

interesting how accurate you are! truth be told, when tested in English, pattern recognition, symbolic logic, geometry and science without hard maths, I score in the 150s. put a lot of algebra in there and my score drops to 120 :P art and psychology are keen interests of mines. it'd be fun to go to an art gallery and psychoanalyze the meaning of the pieces ^^

This is where getting so hung up on a single IQ score falls down a bit. I've never believed in one definition of intelligence. Shakespeare didn't study maths, but that doesn't mean he wasn't a genius. It's like people expecting me to calculate arithmetic really fast because I can read algebra easily. But it doesn't work that way - I get the answer right, but it takes me a bit longer. On the other hand, with algebra I can be like that image of the crazy professor with a chalk board and it makes perfect sense to me. I have a gift for understanding things and learning really fast, but by building a broad understand quickly I miss a lot of details and only calculate simple stuff at an average pace (Unless I'm computer coding - which weirds people out when they see my coding being perfectly neat and tidy when compared to how untidy I am at everything else.)

btw, i really appreciate you sharing your analysis of me. i'm liking the more transparent direction this thread seems to be going in! i think at least part of the reason i have precise articulation is because i'm a Ti-lead.. (which i suppose reveals my opinion that many people on this and other typology forums aren't! ) but Ji, especially Ti, tends to be obsessive about refining its opinions, and very selective about the words used to explain those opinions; they must align and resonate just so.

That might be why I get such a clear reading of you from your posts. I've said before I get a lot more of an impression of people from the way they type than they realise; but I don't think many people get what I mean. One of the things I studied at University was Creative Writing - and everyone would hand in their works of fiction and someone would read them out to the class without being told who wrote it so that we could have an unbiased opinion of it. Over the 3 years, I kind of learned to guess who had written it and learned what it told me about them. And of course, the majority of the contact I have with customers in work is via e-mail for sometimes months before I actually meet them so I've gotten a bit better at it over the years.

i'm a bit torn about answering these questions here. i don't know if it's all too off-topic for the thread? (and i feel a bit of a jerk for talking about myself so much! >.> not used to that. and not sure if anyone else wants to hear so much about me!) i think i'll reply to the rest in a PM if that's ok?..

Please, feel free. I'd be interested to know the answers.
I may have decided to simply be open here, but not everyone wants to be the same.

 

[Black Rose]

This is where getting so hung up on a single IQ score falls down a bit. I've never believed in one definition of intelligence. Shakespeare didn't study maths, but that doesn't mean he wasn't a genius.

Perhaps we could say intelligence is sort of like car designs. Adaptation to different environments and conditions. (the judgment and perception process)

Although we could say that there actually do exist mentally challenged people as well as people of higher overall ability. the generality of intelligence. greater adaptation to a greater number of environments.

 

[QuickTwist]

I find it pretty unlikely that majority of the people here are in the top 1-2%.

I think most users on this forum are about 100-113, higher than your average population sample but I think nearly everyone who's trying to participate in earnest is quite prone to over-estimation.

You're just jelly I got 118.

 

[QuickTwist]

My father says I'm smart but I'm not a genius. But what does he know, he's an idiot.

 

[AndyC]

The 1-2% is surely an overestimation of the general forum, at least intuitively that would be very unlikely. As for the intuitve-perception, that is one's ability to synthesis conceptions with sensory, experiential, semantic and emotional characteristics and is very much the N in iNtuitjon described by typology. S does the same but instead of conception and abstract data, with subjection to objective data. There are obviously levels of abstraction, and intelligence as described by AK can help in the process of reaching such, as well as overall preference. I have a strong preference for intuition, and I'm sure, like many here, would be capable of vast abstraction beyond what we can be bothered to add to the forum. AK puts in the effort as seen in his mutiple threads that exhibit high intuitive-perceptove abilitiea.

 

[QuickTwist]

since intelligence = level of social appreciation here, i was curious to see how others accept me.

People like me more irl, but I like my online friends better.

OK seriousnesssssss.

I come across as a dult on this forum because I care more about making short witty comments that you have to think about to get the point then actually contributing shit that people care about. I actually articulate myself better in normal conversation in everyday things than here where I am just trying to say something punchy. The key factor for me is sensationalism. I don't think a single person has said they think I am funny here so maybe I shouldn't quit my day job [joke]. I don't care about articulating myself here. I really don't know why, seems like ther perfect place for that sort of thing. I think part of the problem has to do with the fact that I don't go on research tangents like most people here do and because I was kinda beat up quite a bit when I first joined. Kinda my life in a nutshell I guess. In my therapy group, suggestions that were given to me were things like taking a philosophy course or some other type of educational type thing. This is only because I tend to give good advice to the people in my group when they want a problem discussed. I am known as the intellect in my therapy group, but I don't think I am even the smartest one in the group. I also tend to have a bit warped sense of things (which adds to normal people thinking I am smart). I consider things normal people don't consider because I am hyper conscious of my own thought process and that has nothing to do with intelligence because I tend to be wrong about some things. Point being, I know I'm not an idiot, but I am not a genius either, tho I would like to be, but it just isn't in the cards for me.

Shieru has a way of putting their thoughts down on paper like others have said. She seems like she has gifts and she knows she has gifts and so she uses them. I also think she prolly wasn't taught by punishment.
Rixus seems like a bright guy who has been abused but not traumatised because he hasn't actually given up on life yet.
AK seems like they were brought up in a chaotic environment. I imagine there was violence in his household.
rb seems like he is not used to getting picked on or proven wrong. His parents may have spoiled him based on his temper.
AndyC seems like his parents didn't give him a lot of direction in life.
Sete seems like they weren't given enough boundaries in life and that they crave structure, but can't get it.
Hado seems like he had a completely different upbringing than myself.
Greyman seems like he is bored with life for the most part. Prolly has a job he doesn't like that much, but it prolly pays fairly well
RaBlind seems like he has good parents and isn't really rebellious because there isn't a reason for it.
Min - IDK
OSTS I have no idea why he is on this site
Artsu seems like he is controlled too much and this is his place to let loose. There's also an off chance he is faking a persona for entertainment value.

/Cringe

 

[AndyC]

AndyC seems like his parents didn't give him a lot of direction in life.

Hahaha

 

[Artsu Tharaz]

Artsu seems like he is controlled too much and this is his place to let loose. There's also an off chance he is faking a persona for entertainment value.

I would say this is pretty accurate. I let loose in real life too at times, but that's becoming less of a thing. I would say that a lot of my posts that I made last year were faked (not done necessarily for entertainment*... there was a "deeper" process regarding self-development) but that my posts made this year I'm not trying to fake anything, I'm just giving my views. \(o.O)/

*though a lot of it was done for fuckin' entertainment, I must admit.

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I'll also add that a lot of what I say in real life, and this has been a trend for a long, long time, is meant to be taken humourously. There's something about the idea that I'm faking things though that seems true in this really deep sense, but that like my WHOLE persona, in real life as well, is really faked, and not how I would naturally be acting... but it's not quite intentional in the sense that I don't know how I even could act naturally.

 

[Minuend]

I find it pretty unlikely that majority of the people here are in the top 1-2%.

I think most users on this forum are about 100-113, higher than your average population sample but I think nearly everyone who's trying to participate in earnest is quite prone to over-estimation.

I read the forum sporadically, so what the average could I'd have no idea

I guess part of it is what idea you have of the average person and those who'd score higher. You could say I don't expect someone to be an infallible genius because they end up at, say, 130. They are still like, normal people with flaws and stuff. They're just able to intuitively grasp a bit more and more easily understand certain things. If you're delusional you also get good at digging into your delusion so it's not like it's you are literally foolproof or automatically have grand ideas.

I wont say I never overestimate or underestimate people, though. But maybe it would in either case, in this thread, be more accurate to say I over/underestimate how well or poor a person with a certain type or form for IQ think.

 

[redbaron]

I read the forum sporadically, so what the average could I'd have no idea

I guess part of it is what idea you have of the average person and those who'd score higher. You could say I don't expect someone to be an infallible genius because they end up at, say, 130. They are still like, normal people with flaws and stuff. They're just able to intuitively grasp a bit more and more easily understand certain things. If you're delusional you also get good at digging into your delusion so it's not like it's you are literally foolproof or automatically have grand ideas.

I wont say I never overestimate or underestimate people, though. But maybe it would in either case, in this thread, be more accurate to say I over/underestimate how well or poor a person with a certain type or form for IQ think.

I think the things IQ tests test for aren't things that would be apparent enough to interpret accurately through general forum interaction. At least not to the point that I'd be willing to guess anyone's IQ as above or below 1 standard deviation from average, unless heavily evidenced with other indicators of high IQ.

 

[onesteptwostep]

I say 4 because I like to connect things.

No, but around 120? IDK I feel most people here are around 120. I've scored upper 120 irl.

 

[QuickTwist]

I say 4 because I like to connect things.

No, but around 120? IDK I feel most people here are around 120. I've scored upper 120 irl.

Let's double it. 8. Final answer.

 

[Minuend]

I think the things IQ tests test for aren't things that would be apparent enough to interpret accurately through general forum interaction. At least not to the point that I'd be willing to guess anyone's IQ as above or below 1 standard deviation from average, unless heavily evidenced with other indicators of high IQ.

Fair enough. My estimations are somewhat based on an own model of iq (a mock model) and so forth. I don't take it 100% seriously. When I observe another person, I generally have an impression of its general traits, perception being among them, so threads like this can be kinda a manifestation of those thoughts, though it should be said my impressions of people are fairly fleeting and prone to change. I guess I see this more like "fun" than hardcore judgment of another being's character, but I can understand how some would disagree to that. I can see how some would see iq tests in a more, err I don't know a good word for it, formal? way. Maybe for someone who has studied iq, intelligence etc, this thread would be a mockery the same way some spiritual people tries to use quantum physics to support their case without knowing what quantum physics is

I did guess 135 for rixus who scored 132, though, so maybe you should just accept I'm the superior baller

 

[Grayman]

IQ is the measure of inherent and learned mental ability that pompous doctorates deemed important and how you relate to that mental ability in comparison to others of the same age.

 

[Minuend]

IQ is the measure of inherent and learned mental ability that pompous doctorates deemed important and how you relate to that mental ability in comparison to others of the same age.

Maybe I misunderstand you, and I guess you said in the past you don't take intpf seriously. But I don't think of intelligence or iq as an absolute you should bow to. I guess you might be right IQ tests might be overvalued in society in general, but does that mean everyone has to/ does take it as some sort of final fact?

And even if someone overvalues IQ, then perhaps that is something they need to process and get over. I don't think hushing it down will necessarily accomplish that