Greetings

[Lazy Vulpes]

Looking for casual conversation about consciousness, and systems.

 

[Pyropyro]

Welcome Lazy Vulpes.

 

[Lot]

Kinky

 

[Teffnology]

What are your top 3 favorite systems?

Hiddy Ho.

 

[Lazy Vulpes]

Thank you for the greetings.

What are your top 3 favorite systems?.

Physics, Ecology, & Mathematics. I don't poses the knowledge to discuss these systems in scientific detail, but they interests me greatly.

 

[Teax]

max-Visual min-Verbal INTP, cool. Maybe a stupid question, just checking something: do you like reading, or do you consider it a necessary evil?

 

[Lazy Vulpes]

Funny you'd ask, I was considering adding that information. I consider it a necessary evil.

 

[Teax]

alright, still checking: do you find yourself frequently using analogies/metaphors? Do you tendentially prefer instrumental music over vocal/songs?

 

[Lazy Vulpes]

Checking for what?

 

[Teax]

correlations. Your entire diagram setup is suspiciously similar (and rare). I wondered whether the traits I only theorized to be indicators of such a setup, actually were. It's a long shot but meh, asking won't hurt...

 

[Lazy Vulpes]

Correlation between..? The answer to both your questions is yes.

 

[Teax]

cool, ditto

I speculate that the diagram you posted (or alternatively, several questions) correlate with a predisposition for what I call "structural insight" = the ability to intuitively see the model behind systems, and as a consequence find it easier to think in terms of structures/graphs instead of language.

Maybe a shitty explanation, but if I'm right, that should ring a bell...

 

[Lazy Vulpes]

What you're saying does resonate with me, but it might just be my ego going; "mhm, that's right, I'm awesome" though.

btw, your avatar and name seems strangely familiar to me. Maybe I've been lurking around the forum before, idk.

 

[Teax]

riiiight good point, well... one way to avoid that problem is to identify with the downside rather than the chocolate side (of not using language as a basis). There's always a downside. I'll need to look into this...

btw, your avatar and name seems strangely familiar to me. Maybe I've been lurking around the forum before, idk.

only joined a couple months ago, dunno

 

[Lazy Vulpes]

hm, negative traits related to structural insight.
I'm exceptional bad at remembering details.
I'll spend hours upon hours figuring out how to go about doing things most efficiently, but then actually never do them.

 

[The Introvert]

Ecology

Ecology

Ecology

(Welcome. I am The Introvert. I too am interested in systems but my diagram is practically inverted from yours [at least on the stuff that matters])

 

[Rudolph Mondal]

Sorry if I'm barging in but I'd like to add a few things.

I thought everyone has an easier time thinking structurally or graphically than via language.

Or at least I do.

When I speak to someone I see shapes and structures forming. I often have the image/graph/structure in mind but lack the exact word to express it.

For example, how do you differentiate between say the words necessary and sufficient?

I see a horizontal bar graph.

Necessary corresponds to a line on the bar graph. If you are to the left of this line, you don't meet the criteria.

And then there's another line to the right of the previous line. Sufficient means you are on the right of this line.

However, there exists a region in between these two lines whereby you need the necessary criteria but not the sufficient criteria but you still meet the overall criteria.

I've always thought structurally/graphically and I perhaps wrongly assumed everyone else did too.