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anyone else put themselves in situations that you know will result in pain weather it be physical mental or emotional? i tend to do this alot like in the summer ill wear a hoodie when i go running and in the winter almost no clothes, and ill get with a girl that i know will hurt me maybe its for the experience...
 

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I'm slightly masochistic. For example, I argue with creationists and I like getting scratched during sex, etc. However, I'm not significantly more masochistic than most other people, I believe. You could simply be more masochistic than I.
 

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i think i do it on my own terms so that when it happens unexpectedly its no big deal.
 

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That's a pretty horrible thing to do to a girl if she thinks you are serious about her.
I do to an extent. I'm almost immune to the cold in winter because I let my room get freezing beyond belief and don't bother to turn the air off. I'm also not horribly bothered by heat because I sit here with it extremely hot too. It isn't for the experience though, I just don't turn the air on because I want to hear the TV or music.
 

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That's a pretty horrible thing to do to a girl if she thinks you are serious about her.
I do to an extent. I'm almost immune to the cold in winter because I let my room get freezing beyond belief and don't bother to turn the air off. I'm also not horribly bothered by heat because I sit here with it extremely hot too. It isn't for the experience though, I just don't turn the air on because I want to hear the TV or music.

well emotions are a bit of a mystery to me, the way i see it is if i don't love someone but i am dating them and they hurt me then im a little more prepared for when i really love someone and they hurt me. does that make sense or am i a fucked up person?

i try to look at everything as a learning experience
 

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I've been saying that for awhile now, that maybe INTPs enjoy being victimized because pain is the only thing we understand. This is based off of only my own experiences, but I have reason to believe it is true because we're supposed to be deficient in the levels of dopamine, norepinephrine and epineprine. In other words, we need the rush of physical and/or emotional pain to feel real.
 

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I am nowhere near being a masochist. I have very low tolerance for physical pain and discomfort and diligently avoid it.

I've been saying that for awhile now, that maybe INTPs enjoy being victimized because pain is the only thing we understand. This is based off of only my own experiences, but I have reason to believe it is true because we're supposed to be deficient in the levels of dopamine, norepinephrine and epineprine. In other words, we need the rush of physical and/or emotional pain to feel real.

What? How? :confused:
 

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Because we'd rather observe than be active. I think we have such a low tolerance that it's possible for us to become addicted to adrenaline.

Well maybe not physically but psychologically, we have withdrawal from events that gave a big rush. Again, this is just from my own experience but I'm thinking about whether it is actually a persistent trait.
 

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I like thinking about death, because the fear thrills me, which in relation to my life affirming beliefs is perfectly healthy, it's the exact opposite of fantasising about dying as if were a good thing.

Does make me a little paranoid though.
 

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personally, i find myself gravitating toward potentially destructive situations almost subconsciously, whenever i get bored with the routine of my life. usually it's in a more emotional/social sense though. i dunno. i always avoid physical discomfort, because i'm just squishy like that.

so yeah, mostly it's just some kind of masochistic manifestation of boredom.
 

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mostly it's just some kind of masochistic manifestation of boredom.

I desire a strong feeling, no matter what will happen with me.
Pain is pompous, bereave of dignity. Pain is passive. Action bridges pain.
Painkillers - rarely. Conscience of body, pain clears mind, stops other pressure.

I watch cruel movies, about real histories. Then I forget about my world. I've got strong need of the worst perspecive, participate pain.

But I wil never yield. A half of population should yield.

I know how I hurt men, sometimes it hurts me. I prefer double-edged sword. I am too kind, so when I break up it last sometimes long time before they realized this is over.
I don't need simply relation, it's boring. Confusing and pain - it source of poetry, ideas, genius, to create other world.

We need justify.
I don't think other can handle many pain. Subtle way of injuiring is sink nails into the skin of wrist. My brother has moon-shaped, crescent scarfs. I am called inqusition.
But I don't see any reason to fight with stranger, I mean with strange girl on disco. Girls are agressive. I'm curious of physiology of fight. Hormones partly bridge pain. Men after affray are passionate.
 

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It is funny, isn't it? After all the analyzing and never-ending rationality feelings are the only real thing, or as we receive them.

I am mostly comfort-seeking, but like to "torchure" myself sometimes by going for a walk with no outer wear when it's -25 degrees celsius, and that sort of stuff. It's not actually masochist behavior, but more like seeking for extremes from time to time.
 

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I desire a strong feeling, no matter what will happen with me.
Pain is pompous, bereave of dignity. Pain is passive. Action bridges pain.
Painkillers - rarely. Conscience of body, pain clears mind, stops other pressure.

I watch cruel movies, about real histories. Then I forget about my world. I've got strong need of the worst perspecive, participate pain.

But I wil never yield. A half of population should yield.

I know how I hurt men, sometimes it hurts me. I prefer double-edged sword. I am too kind, so when I break up it last sometimes long time before they realized this is over.
I don't need simply relation, it's boring. Confusing and pain - it source of poetry, ideas, genius, to create other world.

We need justify.
I don't think other can handle many pain. Subtle way of injuiring is sink nails into the skin of wrist. My brother has moon-shaped, crescent scarfs. I am called inqusition.
But I don't see any reason to fight with stranger, I mean with strange girl on disco. Girls are agressive. I'm curious of physiology of fight. Hormones partly bridge pain. Men after affray are passionate.

You're either not a native English speaker, or you're a fantastic poet. I can't decide which.
 

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I was thinking the same thing.
 

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I don't put myself into situations where I know emotional pain will be the outcome (it gets old, I can't handle it, so I rather avoid it where I can, drama sucks and is mentally draining/waste of time).

I'm not bothered by physical pain that much and have banged myself up pretty good (bleeding everywhere) but would shrug it off and keep going. Then again I score xNTj and suffer more from dopamine and adrenaline excess (which was awesome when I was younger but sucks now as my brain apparently can't handle it, currently on meds so I don't go manic/ psychotic).
 

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I dont put myself into situations to experience pain, that sounds pretty crazy LOL. I did kind of do wild stuff when i was young, but it was fun :phear: fighting with sticks like swords, having little battles in the woods with other kids, where we even had forts made, with all kinds of stuff that we threw at each other and.. yeah anyway it led to pain but that didnt matter when we were having fun. Also fell off my bike a lot, jumping little ramps, riding wheelies, but again, fun fun.

As for how i actually deal with pain, it is pretty trivial to me. The only way i can explain it is, instead of "feeling" pain, i just kind of acknowledge that it is there and move on. The best example, and the main reason i even posted here is that just recently, maybe a week or so ago :confused:(pain is so insignificant that i dont even remember how long i have been injured), i am pretty sure that i fractured the joint behind my big toe. The pain is there right now, constantly, but i only notice it when i think about it, or when i step on it wrong of course. I have had a fracture in my ankle on the other foot and twisted the ankle of the foot i injured now, so my feet are pretty much screwed. I could barely run before, and i never expected to be able to run when i get older before i fractured it this time, so i dont really care, it isnt all too bad, its just a simple fracture im sure, so it cant turn out too bad so i havent went to the doctor.

When it comes down to it, i have strong opinions, and i refuse to comprimise sometimes, and my opinion becomes more important than the situation. For instance, I dont like pills, and pretty much refuse to take them, not even asprin etc. I was offered pain killers when i fractured my ankle, refused them. My brother is an intj, knows im an intp, knows that we are both "differant" as far as our social behavior, and he has offered me anti deppresants, turned them down also. This could be perceived as me being a glutton for punishment, but it is really just me being stubborn, i would rather deal with pain than do something i dont want to.
 

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The way that lets you most realize your life as a life with meaning and motivation is to experience something immense. If you want to be full of purpose and will, you have to have something drastically affecting your membrane.

I'm not suicidal but I like my dose of pain so that I could actually care for something. Not that I don't, I just lack it.

In a similar sense, socialization can be viewed as 'pain' as well. On many occasions, it is painful to engage, that is why on many occasions it is life-realizing to self-inflict.

I guess purpose in life shouldn't be about seeking the most comfortable state, then again, isn't pain another form of comfort? But then what is the difference between pain and comfort? Maybe there isn't pain or comfort in the ultimate sense. There is sensation, however.


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Why are you asking/looking for people that relates to yourself? Why are you doing this? Is there some sort of social ritual that begins wherein people commune together and share their experiences? Is this how it works?
 

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I don't put myself into situations where I know emotional pain will be the outcome (it gets old, I can't handle it, so I rather avoid it where I can, drama sucks and is mentally draining/waste of time).

I'm not bothered by physical pain that much and have banged myself up pretty good (bleeding everywhere) but would shrug it off and keep going. Then again I score xNTj and suffer more from dopamine and adrenaline excess (which was awesome when I was younger but sucks now as my brain apparently can't handle it, currently on meds so I don't go manic/ psychotic).

i hate drama but i figure if i put myself in these situations intentionally it wont be such a shock to my system when it happens randomly. i dont typically feel emotions unless its something major so when i do feel something i panic and cant think rationally and not being able to be rational/logical is a place i hate being so by experiencing these things on my own accord it prepares me for the real thing....
 

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Strange kind of idealism.
I'm kind of ascetic. I had a hunger cure once. I'm very slim and I like my physical apperance, but I heard that state is very nice, after first day of crisis. Four days only.
Physicall effort sometimes hurts but gives dose of endorphines.
I'm patient, I can wait.
 

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The way that lets you most realize your life as a life with meaning and motivation is to experience something immense. If you want to be full of purpose and will, you have to have something drastically affecting your membrane.

I'm not suicidal but I like my dose of pain so that I could actually care for something. Not that I don't, I just lack it.

In a similar sense, socialization can be viewed as 'pain' as well. On many occasions, it is painful to engage, that is why on many occasions it is life-realizing to self-inflict.

I guess purpose in life shouldn't be about seeking the most comfortable state, then again, isn't pain another form of comfort? But then what is the difference between pain and comfort? Maybe there isn't pain or comfort in the ultimate sense. There is sensation, however.



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Why are you asking/looking for people that relates to yourself? Why are you doing this? Is there some sort of social ritual that begins wherein people commune together and share their experiences? Is this how it works?

everyone in my life questions me about everything i do i guess i need to justify my mikeness ;p
 

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i hate drama but i figure if i put myself in these situations intentionally it wont be such a shock to my system when it happens randomly. i dont typically feel emotions unless its something major so when i do feel something i panic and cant think rationally and not being able to be rational/logical is a place i hate being so by experiencing these things on my own accord it prepares me for the real thing....

That makes sense. But don't you end up hurting the other party involved?

Feelings can be beautiful but for the most part they suck. :borg:
 

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I tend to deal with things through my intuition, making it seem pointless to me to actually experience anything, including pain. Any time anything happens to me that would affect most people pretty bad, be it simple day to day stress, a family member dying, getting hurt, i am just never suprised, everything that has happened to me and everyone else in the world, in the past present and future, is an inevitability and should just be expected.

And seeing as how pain is inevitable, there is no reason to seek it OR hide from it, just accept it as it comes.
 

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I tend to deal with things through my intuition, making it seem pointless to me to actually experience anything, including pain. Any time anything happens to me that would affect most people pretty bad, be it simple day to day stress, a family member dying, getting hurt, i am just never suprised, everything that has happened to me and everyone else in the world, in the past present and future, is an inevitability and should just be expected.

And seeing as how pain is inevitable, there is no reason to seek it OR hide from it, just accept it as it comes.

i could do what you do but our intuition is a strong point why not work on one of your weaknesses?
 

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Its not like i choose to be overly analytical. I just cant help but make assumptions about pretty much every situation i have ever been in, and ever will be in. Besides, my assumptions are pretty much always right, so why deny them. :phear:
 
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