Genetics thread, are you a worrier or a warrior?

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Check for this SNP, Rs4680

My genotype for this SNP is GG which means I have the warrior gene. The name is misleading, it has less to do with agression and more to do with how well you handle stress and strategy.

rs4680(A) = Worrier. Met, more exploratory, lower COMT enzymatic activity, therefore higher dopamine levels; lower pain threshold, enhanced vulnerability to stress, yet also more efficient at processing information under most conditions

rs4680(G) = Warrior. Val, less exploratory, higher COMT enzymatic activity, therefore lower dopamine levels; higher pain threshold, better stress resiliency, albeit with a modest reduction in executive cognition performance under most conditions

 

[scorpiomover]

You don't seem the Warrior type.

Given this is about who can situations better under high and low levels of stress, this sounds like A-type personalities versus B-type personalities.

G-variant => High performance under high stress, low performance under low stress => A-type personality.

A-variant => Low performance under high stress, high performance under low stress => B-type personality.

N'est-ce pas?

 

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You don't seem the Warrior type.

Given this is about who can situations better under high and low levels of stress, this sounds like A-type personalities versus B-type personalities.

G-variant => High performance under high stress, low performance under low stress => A-type personality.

A-variant => Low performance under high stress, high performance under low stress => B-type personality.

N'est-ce pas?

Well, im definitely not a worrier. I dont worry about shit, ever. I never panic, if something serious is going on, like say maybe a fire in the house or something like that, I can stay calm and just sort of do what needs to be done to take care of it.

My gf on the other hand, shes probably a worrier, stresses out really easy and buckles under stress, shes an SJ type. I bet a lot of P types have the warrior gene due to the laid back kind of go with the flow and adaptable attitude. Thats sort of why I wanted to see the results of the other P types here.

 

[scorpiomover]

Well, im definitely not a worrier. I dont worry about shit, ever. I never panic, if something serious is going on, like say maybe a fire in the house or something like that, I can stay calm and just sort of do what needs to be done to take care of it.

Oh.

My gf on the other hand, shes probably a worrier, stresses out really easy and buckles under stress, shes an SJ type. I bet a lot of P types have the warrior gene due to the laid back kind of go with the flow and adaptable attitude. Thats sort of why I wanted to see the results of the other P types here.

No. I have anxieties coming out of my ankles, my knees, everywhere. I make Monk seem relaxed. I'm also a very strong P.

A-types tend to NOT be go-with-the-flow types. A-types are the guys in the office who always get stuff done. They thrive on a challenge. Tend to go for high-pressure and high-performance jobs.

 

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Oh.

No. I have anxieties coming out of my ankles, my knees, everywhere. I make Monk seem relaxed. I'm also a very strong P.

A-types tend to NOT be go-with-the-flow types. A-types are the guys in the office who always get stuff done. They thrive on a challenge. Tend to go for high-pressure and high-performance jobs.

The only kind of anxiety I have is social anxiety, like you said though there would be no real way to correlate type and genes until enough people test.

 

[Red myst]

Mine is also GG

and I am much more like this:

rs4680(G) = Warrior. Val, less exploratory, higher COMT enzymatic activity, therefore lower dopamine levels; higher pain threshold, better stress resiliency, albeit with a modest reduction in executive cognition performance under most conditions

Than this:

rs4680(A) = Worrier. Met, more exploratory, lower COMT enzymatic activity, therefore higher dopamine levels; lower pain threshold, enhanced vulnerability to stress, yet also more efficient at processing information under most conditions

 

[Base groove]

Well, im definitely not a worrier. I dont worry about shit, ever. I never panic, if something serious is going on, like say maybe a fire in the house or something like that, I can stay calm and just sort of do what needs to be done to take care of it.

Evidence mounting . . . . extraverted perceptions appear... straightforward/interactive ... rather than full of potential, potential which incapacitates

 

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Evidence mounting . . . . extraverted perceptions appear... straightforward/interactive ... rather than full of potential, potential which incapacitates

What do you think about the possibility of an ISTP being an enneagram type 5?

ISTP makes sense if I were also a type 5, which there is no doubt in my mind that I am.

Type 5 (The Observer)
The Five's attention goes to gathering knowledge and wisdom, to thinking and observing, to protecting inner resources and to warding off intrusions from the outside.

Major traits: Fives describe an inner experience of scarcity or lack, especially in terms of time and energy. They typically feel a strong need to hoard these resources and may become resentful when others threaten to impose on them, especially emotionally. Fives tend to be knowledgeable, emotionally detached, analytical, and objective observers.

Strengths: Fives are often objective, calm in a crisis, knowledgeable, and analytical.

Challenges: They may also be too emotionally detached, and their sense of inner lack often leads to withdrawing from others, creating excessive boundaries, and to the illusion that energy is limited and must be (over)protected.

 

[Grayman]

Check for this SNP, Rs4680

My genotype for this SNP is GG which means I have the warrior gene. The name is misleading, it has less to do with agression and more to do with how well you handle stress and strategy.

rs4680(A) = Worrier. Met, more exploratory, lower COMT enzymatic activity, therefore higher dopamine levels; lower pain threshold, enhanced vulnerability to stress, yet also more efficient at processing information under most conditions with a modest reduction in executive cognition performance under most conditions. Better memory due to constant processing of past events.

rs4680(G) = Warrior. Val, less exploratory, higher COMT enzymatic activity, therefore lower dopamine levels; higher pain threshold, better stress resiliency, albeit with a modest reduction in executive cognition performance under most conditions with a ability to be reasonable under most conditions and not see monsters in the closets or have reason buckle under fear or unnecessarily consider past events to such a degree that there is little time for considering prudent action.

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[Base groove]

What do you think about the possibility of an ISTP being an enneagram type 5?

ISTP makes sense if I were also a type 5, which there is no doubt in my mind that I am.

Type 5 (The Observer)
The Five's attention goes to gathering knowledge and wisdom, to thinking and observing, to protecting inner resources and to warding off intrusions from the outside.

Major traits: Fives describe an inner experience of scarcity or lack, especially in terms of time and energy. They typically feel a strong need to hoard these resources and may become resentful when others threaten to impose on them, especially emotionally. Fives tend to be knowledgeable, emotionally detached, analytical, and objective observers.

Strengths: Fives are often objective, calm in a crisis, knowledgeable, and analytical.

Challenges: They may also be too emotionally detached, and their sense of inner lack often leads to withdrawing from others, creating excessive boundaries, and to the illusion that energy is limited and must be (over)protected.

At your request I'll take the time to answer this now.

I did review the Enneagram once after you posted this and determined I was a five.

Last time I went through it I thought I was an ISTP and was 8w7 which is apparently a pretty harsh combo. I read up on it later and found that quite a few ISTPs are eights.

Otherwise there's nothing I can learn about ISTP fives that you can't from a quick search, including whether they even exist with any predictability. From what I can tell, many people endorse the idea that MBTI is correlated fairly well with Enneagram types even though they measure different things.

What I will say, in addition to what I've said already, is this: being a five likely increases the probability that one is an INTP; I believe the two are highly correlated.

 

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Since we are rationals, a judger, Type A personality = Worrier?

Another thing i dont get is, if IxxP are base judging function, Type A, people explain them as doers, always looking busy but arent J. Same goes the other way around IxxJ, perciever always look lazy? Maybe i got something wrong but sounds like a paradox

 

[Red myst]

Since we are rationals, a judger, Type A personality = Worrier?

Another thing i dont get is, if IxxP are base judging function, Type A, people explain them as doers, always looking busy but arent J. Same goes the other way around IxxJ, perciever always look lazy? Maybe i got something wrong but sounds like a paradox

It is not a paradox when you know how the letters interact. IxxP types do not extrovert their judging function. So they look more sedate, more like type "B" personalities, But IxxJ types do extrovert their judging functions, so they look more decisive, busy, more like type "A" personalities.
Of course no one is pure IxxJ or IxxJ, so the more balanced a person is, the harder it is to determine type.

 

[Base groove]

Of course no one is pure IxxJ or IxxJ, so the more balanced a person is, the harder it is to determine type.

You forgot IxxJ.

 

[Red myst]

You forgot IxxJ.

Yes, thanks! those guys too!

Edit: "pure IxxJ or IxxP"

 

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At your request I'll take the time to answer this now.

I did review the Enneagram once after you posted this and determined I was a five.

Last time I went through it I thought I was an ISTP and was 8w7 which is apparently a pretty harsh combo. I read up on it later and found that quite a few ISTPs are eights.

Otherwise there's nothing I can learn about ISTP fives that you can't from a quick search, including whether they even exist with any predictability. From what I can tell, many people endorse the idea that MBTI is correlated fairly well with Enneagram types even though they measure different things.

What I will say, in addition to what I've said already, is this: being a five likely increases the probability that one is an INTP; I believe the two are highly correlated.

From looking around it doesnt look like type 5 ISTP's are that common but I've seen a few ISTP's who tested as type 5's. In my opinion, the enneagram questions are a lot easier to answer and is more straight forward.

 

[scorpiomover]

What do you think about the possibility of an ISTP being an enneagram type 5?

ISTP makes sense if I were also a type 5, which there is no doubt in my mind that I am.

Doesn't matter. ISTPs don't tend to do that much worrying. They're usually portrayed as badasses, because they are much more like the Warrior Type.

Something about Se seems to make SPs be generally very calm and chilled out about everything, and also seems to make them perfectly comfortable with high levels of physical violence, such as in contact sports, but also in soldiering and warfare.