Gender MBTI and the female INTJ Archetype

[Black Rose]

As I have gone through many images of such female and male MBTI renditions I have noticed a pattern. First, the female INTP is seen as a nerd but in several nerd girl images, I can tell these girls have either very male or female-type energy. An example is In Dragon Maid where Miss Kobayashi is kind of tom-boyish. She is not fem fem. This leads me to think that even with such an ability to think in the introverted orientation, she is a male INTP.

The reason I thought of before this, that got me to consider gender was how most things I see online about the INTJ female somehow make them look like Alpha females. But in that sense, they would be almost totally masculinized and lack the quality of what is the term fem fem. I was then under the idea that a fem fem INTJ would be much different from Major Motoko Kusanagi.

So how would a fem fem INTP or a fem fem INTJ look?

INTP females who would be fem fem to start would be like Twilight Sparkle. Now the thing is that Twilight is not a girly girl like Rarity or hyperactive like Pinkie Pie, she is not a wallflower like Fluttershy. But she is not like Sunset (a fem fem ESTJ) who is tough but kind. Twilight has a certain type of smart femininity without being a tomboy.

The INTP female does not have to be just in girls though, it can be in boys. Aside from the fact that my little pony has exaggerated characters, in the real world a male with a female INTP archetype will be more settled in temperament and happen to relate to adults in a way as to be "motherly" toward them.

What is strange at first to understand is that to have a male persona or a female persona will dramatically affect the number of expressions of personality there are. I am not a professional but I understand that a higher number of personalities exist than just 16. What got me to consider this was how I do not fit any one mold of MBTI type. The variety of people I have seen is too much to consider that emotions are not part of a much higher-dimension space.

When I entered some of my articles into the IBM personality analyzer in 2017 it said I was a 40-year-old female INTJ – I have interacted with many INTJs before from the way they talk and know what personality they have. But I was surprised I had there was a stark contrast to how I talked compared to them. Everyone thought I was a 12-year-old female INFP. Yet some thought I was autistic.

Going over what I have made though I have a clear development path where I was into many technological scientific and generally alchemical ideas. The INTJ is a genuine wizard, the wizard knows both the male and female sides.

 

[LOGICZOMBIE]

I was then under the idea that a fem fem INTJ would be much different from Major Motoko Kusanagi.

well stated

 

[Black Rose]

I think what distinguishes introverted intuition is the silence one has in the head.

Earlier I was seeing what made Ti as it was and that was the internal speech thing.

For if we have an introversion then we have a function that contains self-generation.

Si is the insula or body awareness.

Fi the intense emotions of the amygdala.

Ti the inner voice telling us what is causally true.

And the anterior cingulate cortex which is the basis for Ni selective attention.

Their opposites are the reverse operations.

Yet Ni is a silent function.

Ti is in the head a conjecture of rapid speech.

When things go a certain way for me what I do is to direct my attention inward.

It is what I do when I have no answers, I look inside with the silence until they arise.

I was not sure before but now I am, that the Ti function rapidly speaks to itself.

This makes it easier for me to now distinguish types.

We cannot say for sure what is happening in someone's head but we can categorize what happens in general. Thoughts (words, images), emotions, body sensations, or unconscious ideas popping into awareness. This shows that on the outside with extraversion people will act in certain ways. Manipulating objects, being non-reactive to others, observing stimuli, or connecting the dots in the world.

Along with what I had thought about the character Catra from the show SheRa and the Princes's of Power. This character has exemplars of INTJ - or really what people think about the INTJ - elaborate plans and a main goal in mind. This was what separated in my mind what INTJ was from the other types. She pays attention to things internally in the Ni way. Adora looks at things in the Se way.

Catra is a INTJ female

 

[Black Rose]

A short expo on the INTJ

I believe many aspects of the INTJ cannot be expressed unless we contrast this type with all eight functions. (It is a bit disorganized)

First Ni is in total opposition with Si because Ni is emptying the body for a pool of abstract stillness, yet Si is full of bodily senses. Fi in the INTJs do not have such body senses as the Si would lead people to believe Fi and Si are the same thing, the difference is that emotions are elicited from inside a direct line of core emotion to the body.

So anger goes to the body as heat, sadness as lowness, happiness as pleasant high energy, fear as instability. This is not like feeling a heartbeat or the gut turning. Emotion is energy caused by external events or thoughts. The body just is, so separate from the headspace, and why music is in the ears in the head going into the body that can be danced. These emotions smooth out in the INTJ.

Fi When with Ni is empty of sensation, so the energy becomes ideas. That is to say when the INTJ is full of emotion, such as in music the energy symbolizes the archetypes of such emotion. Combined with Se this makes all one object. This then caries what an emotion is linked with what is to the other. This environment is a way. This object is to this story.

This leads to Se in INTJ and the opposite Ne - The silence of Ni will have ideas just realized out of nowhere but Ne will come from a place of reference to things that can be placed in the real world. Ni is totally out of the blue, where did this idea come from? It was never thought of before. Se will be just what is external but in detail, not in the Ne way because objects are just objects they are not connected, Ne sees them as so. Ne when merged with Fi will have greater humor or teribleness.

From Fi to Te and Ti-Fe : because Ni-Fi is about the story then Fe is the calm of all things not with emotion or in a sense timeless, motionless. Ni-Te is looking for an insight into what can go together to solve, and create a new invention. Si-Ti takes a gut "intuition" in what can be deliberate as a rational product. So a big toe itch leads to a new thought about how a logical solution comes from different angles to the last line of thought. Te will, much like Se, make the details explicit. In this world, it takes resources and puts them where they need to go. It is not necessary to have a logical system of all syntaxes.

Finally, the lasting piece of the puzzle in the INTJ is described.

- They take Ni and Te to gather resources silently looking for the right idea to arise of how to put them together. Ni creates an emotional story of what this means via Fi - as this happens Se combines with story making the archetypes of the story appear in real life.

INTJ

Ni - pay silent attention until the moment an idea arises.
Te - know how to manipulate the objects in the environment to get certain causal effects.
Fi - the exothermic or absorption of emotional energy when evaluating what is important.
Se - observe what is external to self with a neutral stance, taking everything in as it is.

ISFJ

Si - experiences all the subtle sensations of the body's autonomic nervous system.
Fe - the endothermic or expulsion of one's emotional energy for calmness when evaluating importance.
Ti - contemplate in the head a line of thought to its conclusion.
Ne - having ideas pop into awareness by the connections and relations taken to be in the world.

 

[Cognisant]

I don't think MBTI has anything to do with masculinity or femininity.

Also I think cultural depictions of femininity are overly childish.

The character of Haku from the early days of Naruto is very feminine, which is notable because he's a guy, he's also a good example of how someone can be feminine without being childish or ditzy or incompetent. He doesn't need looking after but has the personality of someone who is willing to let someone look after him, he doesn't need guidance but has the personality of someone who is willing to follow another's course. That is, I think, the essence of femininity, which is flanderized into immature girly girls who are basically useless children with adult bodies.

Haku could totally be an INTJ.

My understanding of masculinity and femininity comes from gender roles and how a woman must necessarily surrender herself to a man, by getting pregnant by him she becomes dependent upon him to provide and protect her and the family as a whole.

Likewise someone who is masculine is someone you feel like you can rely on, who is dependable, capable and mature, someone who you can defer to and feel assured that everything's going to be alright.

 

[Black Rose]

My understanding of masculinity and femininity comes from gender roles and how a woman must necessarily surrender herself to a man, by getting pregnant by him she becomes dependent upon him to provide and protect her and the family as a whole.

Likewise someone who is masculine is someone you feel like you can rely on, who is dependable, capable and mature, someone who you can defer to and feel assured that everything's going to be alright.

This can be divided into two types of stances in the world.

If the male is acting to provide everything in the way of maleness then he is active in what he does meaning he is moving such that it is constant. Likewise, the female would be characterized by non-actions or slightly slower and thus have a more internalized relation to the body that is slow.

That males are always moving to understand their body and world and that females are stationary most of the time when understanding their body and environment is a stark contrast and may be the main distinction between males/females.

This would affect both their being in the world as active and inactive in the world.

The male/female may think differently then because of their priorities.

Males need to think about what happens next, "what do I do next".

Females have time to sit and take in what is, observe what is done by the other with less urgency for a critical decision.

This critical decision-making vs. attentional control is a distinct personality difference.

Females would talk more about people whereas males would talk more about things in what they do with them because the social aspect of people is important when being around people and kids is all you do and where decision-making about what action to take next with the males is about where to go, to travel long distances and back again.

Females make distinctions about the personalities of others to this degree as males make distinctions of what action leads to what effect.

The "get things done" male and the "emotionally intelligent" female.