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Gamma Ray Race Through the Fabric of Space-Time Proves Einstein Right...also some thoughts on a smoo

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Gamma Ray Race Through the Fabric of Space-Time Proves Einstein Right: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/8...e-fabric-of-space-time-proves-einstein-right/





New results are in from the Fermi Space Telescope, which settled into orbit in the summer of 2008, and the findings seem to prove Albert Einstein right once again. Man, that guy was good.
The telescope detected and studied a gamma ray burst, one of the massively bright and powerful explosions that occurs when stars go supernova in distant galaxies. Astronomers were interested in the gamma rays of differing energies and wavelengths that were generated by the explosion, and that raced each other across the universe. After a journey of 7.3 billion light-years, they all arrived within nine-tenths of a second of one another in a detector on NASA’s Fermi Gamma-Ray Space Telescope, at 8:22 p.m., Eastern time, on May 9 [The New York Times].
The researchers were wondering if certain gamma rays with both high energies and short wavelengths would arrive last, at the back of the pack. That would suggest that they had violated one of the principles set out in Einstein’s theory of relativity: that the speed of light is always constant. If researchers could detect a significant lag in some gamma rays, it would also give fresh hope to those ambitious researchers searching for a theory of everything.
At present, two separate theories dominate the world of physics. General relativity explains gravity and the motion of large objects such as planets, stars and galaxies, whereas quantum-mechanics explains the behaviour of very small things such as atoms. Both theories do well at explaining their respective worlds, but they don’t fit together mathematically. The problem is as fundamental as it gets: the two see space and time very differently [Nature News].
Einstein’s general relativity relies on space-time being smooth and continuous, while quantum mechanics suggests that the universe is made up of countless tiny grains of space-time. If the latter model is true, researchers theorized that the lumpy nature of space-time could interfere with the travel of some gamma rays. In simplified terms, that’s because higher energy photons have shorter wavelengths, which makes them more likely to bump into tiny lumps in spacetime and to be slowed by those structures. The slowdown would be tiny, but the lower velocity of high-energy photons could in principle be detectable over a journey of several billion light-years [Science News].
But the study of the Fermi Telescope’s results, published in Nature, declares that since all the gamma rays arrived within nine-tenths of a second apart, they must have all traveled at almost exactly the same speed. That suggests either that space-time is smooth and continuous, as general relativity proposed, or that the grains of space-time are smaller than we ever thought possible, and are having only the most minuscule effect on light waves. Researchers say the grains could theoretically be smaller than one-hundred-thousandth of a trillionth of the size of a proton [Science News].
Physicists working with the Fermi Telescope will keep looking for new evidence. But for now, says study coauthor Peter F. Michelson, “I take it as a confirmation that Einstein is still right” [The New York Times].

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I tend to think that space-time is not smooth nor continuous, but rather the later assumption, that the "grains of space-time are smaller than we ever thought possible and are having only the most minuscule effect on light waves" because is it not the "anomalies", the non-smoothness of space-time that allows for galaxies, etc. ? I do believe I read that in a book called Endless Universe (which is very good).
 

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I wonder if the high energy gamma ray actually get delayed a lot and you won't see them a few thousand years later.
Also how can they be so sure that all the gamma ray come from the same source at the same time?
And then there might be certain stuff along the path that can distort the result.
 

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Perhaps our solar system is encased in a huge alien-built sphere, designed specifically to hide what's going on in the universe from us without letting us realise we're being tricked, thus if the gamma rays were projected at us from within the sphere (imagine it's like a giant inward facing TV, except much better of course) then that would explain the lacking of a lag effect.

I'm not paranoid, just open minded.
 

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Perhaps our solar system is encased in a huge alien-built sphere, designed specifically to hide what's going on in the universe from us without letting us realise we're being tricked, thus if the gamma rays were projected at us from within the sphere (imagine it's like a giant inward facing TV, except much better of course) then that would explain the lacking of a lag effect.
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That would be a direct violation of the Copernius principle.

But then think again, problems have been mounting against Copernius paradigm for long now, so perhap it is time to change it?

I still get bothered by the 0.9sec. They should explained why such lag is still acceptable. I would think it is because the explosion happen over a time period, and the ray originate from different part of the explosion.
Still 0.9 x c is still quite large.
 

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"Copernicus* Principle"?

What problems?

I saw this same article. I love that the two paradigms between quantum mechanics and relativity don't match up... it pleases my brain for some abstract reason.

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"Copernicus* Principle"?
Sorry I might not write the name of that guy correct in English. But anyway, the Copernicus (whoever propose the heliocentric system and get burned by the Church) 's Principle was the principle that oppose the church at that time, and still being used in astronomy. It stated that our place in the universe is no more special than any other place, and so physical laws that work in our proximity will apply to the whole universe.
 

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I think a good way to sum up the Copernican principle is to say that:

We used to think the earth was the center of the universe, then we discovered it orbits the sun.
Then we thought the sun was the center of the universe, then we discovered it was way off in one of the 'suburbs' of our galaxy.
So then we thought our galaxy was the only one in the universe, but then discovered it's only one of hundreds of billions.

We keep reducing our perceived importance in the cosmos, so the Copernican principle says that anything that might look like it gives a certain part of existence special attention, it's probably wrong. It's not really a law or rule, but more like Occams razor.

Symmetry is the idea that that laws of physics are the same all throughout space and time, but I suppose the two notions are not exclusive.
 
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