Future attitudes of AI generated content

[EndogenousRebel]

Any guesses?

I mean, will people just default to mass synthesis AI curated "slop"?

I suppose it's dependent on the maximum leverage the technology will have, but the idea of mathematically constructing video procedurally has been in the making for a while now.

The only gap is precise editing of source files, and that will probably "good enough" sometimes soon.

You certainly now probably expedite the editing processes factors of magnitude if you leverage AI right, though I bet that's all patented or in someone's private studio workflow.

 

[fluffy]

Higher quality will need humans who can tell if it is human content.

Like mass media video games were, we will have the ones that suck and the good ones.

In that regard the industry has geared itself for itself where most gammers play what the top people play. So in a.i. content it may get better in some areas and worse in others.

We just need a better rating system then.

A recommended content filter for people like you the consumer. Like gammers have today.

 

[EndogenousRebel]

Higher quality will need humans who can tell if it is human content.

How so? It seems to me certain audiences prefer a automated voice.

I don't think it's so clear-cut if my grandson's grandson (circa 2100) is going to really see the difference between content that was made by a person versus content that was made by a sophisticated procedure.

I mean besides obvious things.

I've been wasting money, paying into a monthly voice AI credit thing.

I kinda have been itching to use it somehow while I don't have anything to do.

Even if it's just garbage ChatGPT spits out, what should the everyday lad have narrated into their waking mind all day? At the quality and yet exponential rate of the ~average writer?

This is adjacent to the thread, but I guess I'm also taking ideas for that now.

 

[fluffy]

Well I just thought you meant near term 5 to 10 years.

In the case of 50 years, it's going to be more than YouTube. More that 4K tv - you will be inside the computer fully immersed.

So I have thought about it but it will no longer be about "movies" - more like what we've seen in some Anime shows.

That is we will search for things to do like real life but with fancier things. Like living in the movie for a couple years as the characters.

LARPING

 

[Drvladivostok]

Spitefulness.

The biggest threat of the increasing capability of AI would how it makes human labor, particularly of the lower class absolutely unecesseary, we are in a period of history whereby technology is going to make an entire class of people to be nothing but burndens from the POV of economics.

First they take the laborers, but now they will take the copywritter and the typist. The 'unnececeary' class will only grow, slowly increasing to access people to the right side of the bell curve.​

 

[Cognisant]

AI as a tool in the hands of an artist is fundamentally superior to AI alone.

Think of it this way, if you approach two artists and commission both of them to create a work of art for you (using a time machine so it's actually the same artist in two different timelines, so the artists are identically skilled) which artist is going to create a better work of art:

• The one who was given no instructions other than: make something.
• Or the one who was given a detailed and well thought out prompt.

My point is a skilled artist can use AI as a tool in much the same way digital artists have many tools that traditional artists consider cheating, a painter cannot simply change the color composition of their work halfway through or use a smart brush to fill in books on a bookshelves in a background.

That doesn't mean digital art isn't art, because it's not the tools that make the artist.

 

[Haim]

Its a nice movie you got there. I wonder what will happen if I will convert your movie to a prompt. In fact lets do it to 1 million best movies, now lets train an AI to make new prompts like that.
The tech is not there right now but not so far.

 

[Cognisant]

And the output will be generic and uninspired, quite literally derivative, because good ideas don't come from copying everybody else.

 

[Old Things]

AI will be used for porn, which I am strictly against. AI will have benefits and cons about it. It's not the golden ticket. It's like the internet, which comes with good and bad.

 

[Cognisant]

Porn existed before the internet and before porn there was a lot more prostitution, it's like the drug industry, it's all supply & demand, no matter how hard you try to suppress the supply side of things as long as there's demand the supply will find a way.

The good thing about porn is that it's safer than prostitution and if we can automate the pornography that'll prevent people participating as paid performers.

 

[Puffy]

Porn existed before the internet and before porn there was a lot more prostitution, it's like the drug industry, it's all supply & demand, no matter how hard you try to suppress the supply side of things as long as there's demand the supply will find a way.

The good thing about porn is that it's safer than prostitution and if we can automate the pornography that'll prevent people participating as paid performers.

It has pros and cons. It might also mean that people continue to become entrained to be attracted to unreasonable standards of beauty. If someone can masturbate or even sleep with AI designed to be and do the perfect image of what they want will they find normal people as attractive?

 

[Old Things]

Porn existed before the internet and before porn there was a lot more prostitution, it's like the drug industry, it's all supply & demand, no matter how hard you try to suppress the supply side of things as long as there's demand the supply will find a way.

The good thing about porn is that it's safer than prostitution and if we can automate the pornography that'll prevent people participating as paid performers.

Not accurate.

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[EndogenousRebel]

Porn existed before the internet and before porn there was a lot more prostitution, it's like the drug industry, it's all supply & demand, no matter how hard you try to suppress the supply side of things as long as there's demand the supply will find a way.

The good thing about porn is that it's safer than prostitution and if we can automate the pornography that'll prevent people participating as paid performers.

It has pros and cons. It might also mean that people continue to become entrained to be attracted to unreasonable standards of beauty. If someone can masturbate or even sleep with AI designed to be and do the perfect image of what they want will they find normal people as attractive?

That would be left up to culture conventionally is the thing.

Now machine learning basically manages a whole bunch of things we can't even imagine on top of the manual interventions that people are talking.

I know that for example in many cultures cereal of the sugary kind that goes with milk, seen as a thing for just children.

In America it's still very much not considered food, but there's a different context surrounding the idea of cereal.

I specifically remember someone trying to infantilize me cuz I was eating cereal and I just didn't gaf that he thought kids were the only people allowed to enjoy cereal and milk.

So I would expect something like that. You can say the same thing about any media really. Comic books, superhero, blockbusters, it's all for people who aren't trying to take reality seriously.

Is that a problem? To an extent. I have heard it repeated various times that technology is just exacerbating problems we already had.

 

[Cognisant]

It has pros and cons. It might also mean that people continue to become entrained to be attracted to unreasonable standards of beauty. If someone can masturbate or even sleep with AI designed to be and do the perfect image of what they want will they find normal people as attractive?

Should we force ugly people to lower their standards so other ugly people can get laid? I mean that's basically what you're saying, we already have people who aren't in a relationship because they're insufficiently attractive to get with someone who they consider attractive. Being ugly doesn't force people to lower their standards, it just means they have to lower their standards if they want to be in a relationship.

Are you saying we need more couples having children? Because if so I don't think pornography or AI is the problem, we need economic reforms, that's why existing couples aren't having children.

Or are you saying that we need men to be attracted to women in order to get them to submit to their own enslavement? Feminism has had a lot to say about women's suffrage and how modern women are strong, independent, and don't need no man, but then men start withdrawing from society and suddenly it's a problem.

If being attractive is all a woman can offer a man and he can get that from his AI gynoid, then why should he bother with a woman? Men don't need looking after, we evolved to protect and provide for a family, doing that for ourselves is easy, were it not for our biological compulsions we wouldn't bother with women at all.

 

[Puffy]

It has pros and cons. It might also mean that people continue to become entrained to be attracted to unreasonable standards of beauty. If someone can masturbate or even sleep with AI designed to be and do the perfect image of what they want will they find normal people as attractive?

Should we force ugly people to lower their standards so other ugly people can get laid? I mean that's basically what you're saying, we already have people who aren't in a relationship because they're insufficiently attractive to get with someone who they consider attractive. Being ugly doesn't force people to lower their standards, it just means they have to lower their standards if they want to be in a relationship.

Are you saying we need more couples having children? Because if so I don't think pornography or AI is the problem, we need economic reforms, that's why existing couples aren't having children.

Or are you saying that we need men to be attracted to women in order to get them to submit to their own enslavement? Feminism has had a lot to say about women's suffrage and how modern women are strong, independent, and don't need no man, but then men start withdrawing from society and suddenly it's a problem.

If being attractive is all a woman can offer a man and he can get that from his AI gynoid, then why should he bother with a woman? Men don't need looking after, we evolved to protect and provide for a family, doing that for ourselves is easy, were it not for our biological compulsions we wouldn't bother with women at all.

None of this feminism stuff lol I want to hold back on growing grey hairs while I’m young. For example from a man’s perspective maybe they could have a longing for a relationship but find themselves unattracted to people they like, or maybe they procrastinate on seeking someone due to their sexual needs being met through AI, sex or porn addiction could spoil their existing relationship or they could find themselves unable to please a partner as they’ve only learned about sex through porn or self-gratification.

I’m not forcing anyone to do anything. I said that there are pros and cons.

 

[Haim]

And the output will be generic and uninspired, quite literally derivative, because good ideas don't come from copying everybody else.

Most media people watch is exactly this.
If one can type "make robot movie in which robots fear squirrels"
and if that can produce a good movie, there is no technical issue
to train AI to produce similar prompts. Even if there is a person that can make not "uninspired, quite literally derivative" you would take his movie transform it to prompts then train your AI to make similar prompts. The same way that could predict the next word in a sentence they could predict the next movie script prompts

 

[Cognisant]

For example from a man’s perspective maybe they could have a longing for a relationship but find themselves unattracted to people they like, or maybe they procrastinate on seeking someone due to their sexual needs being met through AI, sex or porn addiction could spoil their existing relationship

There's two misunderstandings here.

Men don't have standards like women have standards, women are either fuckable or they're not, and if they are it's not a question of whether he can do better but rather one of opportunity cost. Women don't like it when men fuck around, well actually they do but it's a hassle to deal with, anyway point is: exclusivity is something women force upon men.

If I have some AI gynoid robot it's not going to get jealous of my girlfriend, it's not going to enforce exclusivity, and having a 10/10 sexy robot body to play with doesn't mean I don't also want the real thing. That's just what men are, we're pollinators, give a guy a harem of women and he'll bang them all on the regular as a matter of principle.

Which brings me to the second misunderstanding, relationships for men cost time and resources, women aren't dependents exactly but they will put a guy's ability to provide for them to the test. So when a man considers pursuing a woman he considers the opportunity cost and the time/resources cost of maintaining her. A man isn't going to stop because his needs are met, this is why successful men so often have mistresses, the limiting factors are opportunity cost and practical cost.

Give a guy endless wealth and power and he will just keep adding women, it's a common practice for dictators to have a "personal guard" comprised entirely of attractive women.

In short: If a guy isn't pursuing you, it's not because he has a robot fuck buddy, it's because, for him, you're not worth the effort.

or they could find themselves unable to please a partner as they’ve only learned about sex through porn or self-gratification.

That's a communication problem.

 

[fluffy]

The male libedo is always going going going.

But that is why he puts the energy into production or fighting or anything work related.

Porn stifles this, especially after age 30

You need energy to work and if you want to have kids you cannot spend the energy at an older age.

Having a sex bot would not be ok once you need a real friend later in life. Unless the bot had real feelings.

Some men just want sex but that's biology and as the various people have different personalities can seek a real relationship if they put in the energy in another direction other than sexual.

That is in the 20s men need work if they want kids and a female friend who is a real friend.